humble3d Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Intelligent robot capable of ‘having children’ We seem to be living in a golden age of robotics and artificial intelligence. These days, we can’t even go a few weeks without hearing about some wild new advancement that brings the notion of futuristic and intelligent robots that much closer to reality. Of course, at the same time, each new advancement also brings with it a certain level of fear, a point driven home by Tesla CEO Elon Musk who said that exceedingly advanced AI can be fundamentally dangerous. Case in point: researchers at the University of Cambridge recently developed an intelligent robot capable of having children. Which is to say, the robot was programmed to assemble smaller robots and can even monitor the progress of its creations as to improve the building process in subsequent builds. All the more impressive, this is all done without any human intervention or external computer simulations. “The blocks are assembled into a structure by the robot arm, and the motors are turned on,” CNBC explained in a report. “A camera detects how far the blocks are able to travel. The robot arm sees this, and then modifies the next “baby” to try to make it go further, learning from the mistakes and good traits of the last one.” “Machines usually build the same thing and what it will do and it will do it over again,” one of the researchers explained. “What we did here was use a genetic algorithm so each operation is different,” So while this advancement is breathtakingly cool, it’s also somewhat jarring. Video of the robot in action can be viewed below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h__eZePFj8Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-5n2IsdCqU https://bgr.com/2015/08/12/robot-children-artificial-intelligence/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vibranium Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 This is far yet from the test of "life": 1. Can the children grow up to be like the parent? 2. Can the children also have children? Maybe in 400 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VileTouch Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 so that's where baby robots come from! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 this is exactly how the matrix started soon we will be all dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Intelligent robot capable of ‘having bastard children’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyStar Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Very impressive , thanks for the info! The Rise of the Machines is starting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halteclere Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 It's just assembling parts. It doesn't procure the materials itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURbit Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I have to admit first impression was to laugh - immediately followed by fear, what an impact one topic title can have. Next thing they will want a raise and vacations ? You know to support the family and time off to spend with them. If we could have this done in space to where they would build living quarters to migrate to, when we as humans make our world dead to support us. A thought - is if they could be programmed to have no bias traits as humans or influenced by the likes of - then this would be the perfect officials to govern our legal and society structures. If AI ever evolves this far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
info999 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 "intelligent" is nothing if not coupled with ability to learn when a machine can learn, that's when it will get real messy. eg. a machine does not know calculus, so all it needs to do is read up on calculus a machine does not know how to shoot, so it takes shooting class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODYQX4 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 29 minutes ago, SURbit said: I have to admit first impression was to laugh - immediately followed by fear, what an impact one topic title can have. Next thing they will want a raise and vacations ? You know to support the family and time off to spend with them. If we could have this done in space to where they would build living quarters to migrate to, when we as humans make our world dead to support us. A thought - is if they could be programmed to have no bias traits as humans or influenced by the likes of - then this would be the perfect officials to govern our legal and society structures. If AI ever evolves this far. I wouldn't mind a (non enslaving) robot government. No person can do the job without becoming a corrupt soul-selling scumbag, or being assassinated for not being a corrupt soul-selling scumbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURbit Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, CODYQX4 said: I wouldn't mind a (non enslaving) robot government. No person can do the job without becoming a corrupt soul-selling scumbag, or being assassinated for not being a corrupt soul-selling scumbag. Seems like along the same lines - but mind you different - we already trust scales, atm's, traffic lights, weight printed on products we buy by the weight, all without a second thought you know, we're primed to this acceptance. As you stated though who would govern the governors? To ensure freedom and non-bias authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURbit Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 22 minutes ago, info999 said: "intelligent" is nothing if not coupled with ability to learn when a machine can learn, that's when it will get real messy. eg. a machine does not know calculus, so all it needs to do is read up on calculus a machine does not know how to shoot, so it takes shooting class I'm trying to relate to your post with my simple mind, your saying that machines with or without being able to learn advanced material, will never have a soul, that all the learning will be 2D and not 3D as we have the feelings of. It can only be programed to act in learning and not experience the learning - right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODYQX4 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 17 hours ago, SURbit said: Seems like along the same lines - but mind you different - we already trust scales, atm's, traffic lights, weight printed on products we buy by the weight, all without a second thought you know, we're primed to this acceptance. As you stated though who would govern the governors? To ensure freedom and non-bias authority. Open Source robot governors, as opposed to a megacorp making them? All commits require so much of the voting population to accept, then pushed to the robots. Robots take action against those who would try to hack/corrupt them outside of this voting process (also X number of votes can reverse a commit). Instead of voting on people who will go the other way for money, you'd be directly voting on policy. Also, the population wouldn't have to understand the code/tech part, just submit their yes/no vote and it goes on something like a Bitcoin blockchain where there's only so many "tokens" to vote with. So no master central location to hack to rig the vote, but a P2P network. Sounds crazy as hell to many, but the current system is the height of madness as it is (I mean the average clueless person can tell you it's all bought and sold but we all still go on like our votes and choices of people matter), and it's truly a miracle humanity and human leaders haven't long ago purged all life from the planet well before my 1st birthday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURbit Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 @CODYQX4 The Rich Men Came and started here in the US cause they wanted to keep more of their money, that hasn't changed. I don't know if it's as though we have regressed back into the days of the Kings and Queens and the middle-class is paying taxes to keep lining the pockets of the extremely financially advantaged Royal class elites. (You can change the name but, the song remains the same) Or if that system has even ever changed for less fortunate people. Per system quo. The people hopefully someday will wise up and rise up, before we get robots in the world like smartphones. There is no free in the US cause, someone is always paying and when money changes hands the one’s with the biggest hands get the most. The US people should not want a minimum wage as much but, a maximum limit to the excess the rich have and keep. My tax system would be, you can have what you can carry in cash - everything is tax after that - what you drop and goes into a general fund - dispersed evenly - as all life costs. A 1,000,000 home is needless when people still live in the US with earth dirt floors. The rich siphons off money of the US’s economy and hoards it not putting it back in to jobs, circulation and inter-structure, the common good. Yet the majority of us are living pay check to pay check. We'll never have robots - and we are the robots for now, to the filthy rich. The election time comes and these rich flimflammers get out and rub elbows with us to vote basically for them to keep the status quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODYQX4 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 10 minutes ago, SURbit said: @CODYQX4 The Rich Men Came and started here in the US cause they wanted to keep more of their money, that hasn't changed. I don't know if it's as though we have regressed back into the days of the Kings and Queens and the middle-class is paying taxes to keep lining the pockets of the extremely financially advantaged Royal class elites. (You can change the name but, the song remains the same) Or if that system has even ever changed for less fortunate people. Per system quo. The people hopefully someday will wise up and rise up, before we get robots in the world like smartphones. There is no free in the US cause, someone is always paying and when money changes hands the one’s with the biggest hands get the most. The US people should not want a minimum wage as much but, a maximum limit to the excess the rich have and keep. My tax system would be, you can have what you can carry in cash - everything is tax after that - what you drop and goes into a general fund - dispersed evenly - as all life costs. A 1,000,000 home is needless when people still live in the US with earth dirt floors. The rich siphons off money of the US’s economy and hoards it not putting it back in to jobs, circulation and inter-structure, the common good. Yet the majority of us are living pay check to pay check. We'll never have robots - and we are the robots for now, to the filthy rich. The election time comes and these rich flimflammers get out and rub elbows with us to vote basically for them to keep the status quo. I believe that other than maybe a brief moment between 40s-60s, really any gains were much more eclipsed by the top. Just a temp peak from post-WW2 that corrected itself. People talk about just walking into a factory and becoming a machinist. They want certifications, 4 years experience to do just about anything these days, which all costs an order of magnitude more. Go ahead and pay for college flipping burgers. You can't afford the dorm alone like that, hell it'll take you a month or two to buy the books. We really only think things are new because there was a brief moment where the middle class did somewhat well, had job security, and pensions were great, work was plentiful. Which makes it so irritating when the older generation think things are easy (as we pay the last generation to ever get SS). If you are younger than the Baby Boomers (Gen X, Gen Y/Millennials), and now whatever the hell they're calling the tweens these days), then you are doing way worse off as far as economic prospects go and it's only going to get worse. But it's nothing new, we are simply going back to the normal state of society with the illusion that it's a new thing. We're simply just getting other punishments other than beheading and we're allowed to bitch and moan online because we're harmless ants when there's Tanks and Jets if SHTF, as opposed to sword vs sword or musket vs musket. We're basically modern day serfs pretending we're equal. Just because tech exists don't mean we're not that much beneath the top 1%. A company that makes sugar water has more resources than dozens of countries combined, and we're taught that this is a good thing, and people hoarding billions is good meanwhile saving is bad because spending is good for the economy, and debt is good but it will bankrupt the nation, and the market is free and totally not all funneled into derivatives which are basically gambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODYQX4 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I wouldn't sort any hard caps on ownership/amount of money, but when there's billions being made off of derivatives and bad assets sold into 401Ks and NOTHING is taxed because the laws allow erasing a $60 billion tax bill easily. If money is supposed to move and they want NEGATIVE interest rates for us peons, then how is one person having billions that isn't being invested or used at all a good thing? Bad logic there. "Job creators?" Facebook cries that employees want too much AKA a decent wage for a city where housing costs $10 million for what used to be a normal, middle class house, and wants unlimited H1b Visas so they can pay peanuts for the skills that make one of the largest internet websites work 26/8/366. It's not how much money someone has, it's how they got it and who they buy with it. You can make a business make a couple million without dumping toxic waste in the kids pool or murdering a bunch of people indirectly through proxies. Hundreds of billions? Not so much. You don't make a trillion dollars without doing evil things that screw over the entire world. Citibank had $60 Trillion in derivatives (they could pay off the US debt 3-5X over with a quoted value on completely intangible "assets"). They basically gamble on options, and hedge that a country will fail and then hang that country. If a billion dollars said my house burns tonight it's going to get torched by someone somehow. Citibank supposedly was one of the worst causes of the 2008 crash and the Great Depression, and they were rewarded for their terrible deeds every time. Too big to fail and too big to jail is just like a Royal being able to rape and kill the peasants with impunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURbit Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 15 minutes ago, CODYQX4 said: I believe that other than maybe a brief moment between 40s-60s, really any gains were much more eclipsed by the top. Just a temp peak from post-WW2 that corrected itself. People talk about just walking into a factory and becoming a machinist. They want certifications, 4 years experience to do just about anything these days, which all costs an order of magnitude more. Go ahead and pay for college flipping burgers. You can't afford the dorm alone like that, hell it'll take you a month or two to buy the books. We really only think things are new because there was a brief moment where the middle class did somewhat well, had job security, and pensions were great, work was plentiful. Which makes it so irritating when the older generation think things are easy (as we pay the last generation to ever get SS). If you are younger than the Baby Boomers (Gen X, Gen Y/Millennials), and now whatever the hell they're calling the tweens these days), then you are doing way worse off as far as economic prospects go and it's only going to get worse. But it's nothing new, we are simply going back to the normal state of society with the illusion that it's a new thing. We're simply just getting other punishments other than beheading and we're allowed to bitch and moan online because we're harmless ants when there's Tanks and Jets if SHTF, as opposed to sword vs sword or musket vs musket. We're basically modern day serfs pretending we're equal. Just because tech exists don't mean we're not that much beneath the top 1%. A company that makes sugar water has more resources than dozens of countries combined, and we're taught that this is a good thing, and people hoarding billions is good meanwhile saving is bad because spending is good for the economy, and debt is good but it will bankrupt the nation, and the market is free and totally not all funneled into derivatives which are basically gambling. Pretty much the way it was in the brief moment between 40s-60s ( I think to early - mid seventies), then this was the time for the youngsters of the filthy rich or criminal rich coming of age to take the 401k's - stocks - futures, everything that was to be as a retirement investment, back that was gained from that brief era for gain for the middle class. Everything you said - that I quoted above - rings LOUD on this end, brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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