Batu69 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Swinging like it was the sixties HEY, GUESS WHAT? The authorities are still trying to put the piracy problem back in its bottle, and have urged UK ISPs to block a range of proxy sites and piracy portals. TorrentFreak is first with the news on this, reporting that the big ISPs have been given a green light to put up stop signs in front of 85 websites after pressure from rights holders. ISPs typically capitulate when this happens and explain that when the local high court tells them to jump they jump. Some list the sites that they must block on their information pages, but users of the sites usually work it out for themselves pretty quickly when their attempts to access fail. We have contacted O2, Sky, TalkTalk, Virgin Media and BT and asked them to confirm whether they have been asked to block access to the sites. They have not yet responded. The hammer began banging in 2012, for Sky at least, which said that it put the Pirate Bay into the wilds following a request from members of the BPI and Phonographic Performance Ltd. The most recent whack on the Sky service apparently happened this June, and saw a number of booksellers thrown into the corner. We have checked a few of the sites on the published list on TorrentFreak and can confirm that this Virgin Media account is not having any of them. Virgin Media was the first big player to curtain off the Pirate Bay. "Sorry, this page is not available through Virgin Media," said the standard official notice. "Virgin Media has received an order from the High Court requiring us to prevent access to this site." TorrentFreak reported that access to Pirate Bay proxies has been downed through various means, including domain suspension. We checked one of the sites that it named, an option called piratebrowser.com, and were unable to connect. News source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefa Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Quote O2, Sky, TalkTalk, Virgin Media and BT And to think these are the big players grow some i say..I left BT for certain reasons not for the blocks there easy to bypass anyway i am now with a lesser known provider no blocks pretty much the same speed and half price..Says it all really.. whack a mole will continue as long as ISP'S keep letting them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vibranium Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Domain filtering: ISPs just want to stay in business without shouldering legal liability, can hardly blame them. Throttling torrent, SIP and non-net neutrality is controversial though. Their justification doesn't quite hold water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Or they could just use DPI instead of blocking the whole websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefa Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Or they could just leave them the fuck alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 On 12/16/2015 at 5:22 PM, F3dupsk1Nup said: And to think these are the big players grow some i say..I left BT for certain reasons not for the blocks there easy to bypass anyway i am now with a lesser known provider no blocks pretty much the same speed and half price..Says it all really.. whack a mole will continue as long as ISP'S keep letting them.... In the USA soon if you're ISP catches you pirating there going turn you're internet off . Because BMG music just won 25 million dollars from COX . So anyone who pirates without a vpn is crazy . When you use a VPN and make sure you're DNS don't leak you're data looks like this to you're isp OIFjds098fsj9f8F#PM98fjfsdv98dshj938j09cejc0983209834238904hcdsfj*(&$#jfsdf8j)FJd0DS09f8h09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 4 hours ago, steven36 said: In the USA soon if you're ISP catches you pirating there going turn you're internet off . Because BMG music just won 25 million dollars from COX . So anyone who pirates without a vpn is crazy . When you use a VPN and make sure you're DNS don't leak you're data looks like this to you're isp OIFjds098fsj9f8F#PM98fjfsdv98dshj938j09cejc0983209834238904hcdsfj*(&$#jfsdf8j)FJd0DS09f8h09 So if we know this the government definitely knows this too. what if VPN providers cooperate with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Just now, saeed_dc said: So if we know this the government definitely knows this too. what if VPN providers cooperate with them? Most VPN providers are not in the USA they don't have too cooperate with the government of the USA or anywhere else for that matter they have no laws saying they have too log .This don't have nothing to do with the Government no ways it has to do with the music and movie industry will sue the socks off ISP providers if they don't stop them from downloading from p2p. There's no law to block p2p in the USA they leave up to the ISP to handle .There not like the UK yet were the police gets involved . The music and movie industry hires trolls to watch p2p and they see everyones ip and they take people to court in the US and Europe , Even in Russia they done it before. If there were laws in the USA the ISPs would had to had done something to stop it already, but there's not so there getting sued if they don't stop users from doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 29 minutes ago, steven36 said: Most VPN providers are not in the USA they don't have too cooperate with the government of the USA or anywhere else for that matter they have no laws saying they have too log .This don't have nothing to do with the Government no ways it has to do with the music and movie industry will sue the socks off ISP providers if they don't stop them from downloading from p2p. There's no law to block p2p in the USA they leave up to the ISP to handle .There not like the UK yet were the police gets involved . The music and movie industry hires trolls to watch p2p and they see everyones ip and they take people to court in the US and Europe , Even in Russia they done it before. If there were laws in the USA the ISPs would had to had done something to stop it already, but there's not so there getting sued if they don't stop users from doing it. Thanks, well that doesn't sound good at all. when you're using VPNs can you use all your Internet's bandwidth that ISP gives you or VPN limits it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Just now, saeed_dc said: Thanks, well that doesn't sound good at all. when you're using VPNs can you use all your Internet's bandwidth that ISP gives you or VPN limits it? They will have to do what they have to do to protect themselves . By using a vpn you're protecting you're isp as well as yourself . When you don't use one you protect no one. Most vpns are unlimited bandwidth for just a few dollars a month . And people use up loads of bandwidth using legal stuff like youtube , hulu , Itunes , amazon etc . So that don't matter ether . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 1 hour ago, steven36 said: They will have to do what they have to do to protect themselves . By using a vpn you're protecting you're isp as well as yourself . When you don't use one you protect no one. Most vpns are unlimited bandwidth for just a few dollars a month . And people use up loads of bandwidth using legal stuff like youtube , hulu , Itunes , amazon etc . So that don't matter ether . It's not like what you think it is, by using VPN your security is no way increased. you're actually handing over all your data coming and going from/to your computer to a god-knows-what computer and you're told that computer is secure, but you can never be 100% sure. I'm not new to this either so if you want to have more security then using your ISP's given IP is a lot safer than using other networks'. using VPNs or proxies is only good for dodging blockades. TOR adds a layer of security too but it's not uncrackable. whether your VPN protocols are PPTP,L2TP,SSTP they're all for one purpose, removing a third party from viewing the data flow, data still are being decrypted on the destination computer. Btw I can give you PPTP/L2TP VPNs for 1$ / 3 months, unlimited bandwidth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 13 minutes ago, saeed_dc said: It's not like what you think it is, by using VPN your security is no way increased. you're actually handing over all your data coming and going from/to your computer to a god-knows-what computer and you're told that computer is secure, but you can never be 100% sure. I'm not new to this either so if you want to have more security then using your ISP's given IP is a lot safer than using other networks'. i used a vpn since 2011 with never one problem . read what Kapersky says about VPNs they recommenced using one for a extra layer of security https://blog.kaspersky.com/vpns-use/1788/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 14 minutes ago, steven36 said: i used a vpn since 2011 with never one problem . read what Kapersky says about VPNs they recommenced using one for a extra layer of security https://blog.kaspersky.com/vpns-use/1788/ I've been using it since 2009 and wasn't expecting any problems either. Well maybe read something a bit more technical? Differences between using Tor browser and VPN How can you be caught using Private VPN when there's no logs about who you are? What is the difference in security between a VPN- and a SSL-connection? How far a VPN service is legal? Does it makes my data vunerable for hackers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 1 minute ago, saeed_dc said: I've been using it since 2009 and wasn't expecting any problems either. Well maybe read something a bit more technical? Differences between using Tor browser and VPN How can you be caught using Private VPN when there's no logs about who you are? What is the difference in security between a VPN- and a SSL-connection? How far a VPN service is legal? Does it makes my data vunerable for hackers? Each country has different laws when you post all kinds of stuff like if there legal its meaningless when it comes to vpns . Some governments has went as far as to ban them . But dont everywhere have this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 1 minute ago, steven36 said: Each country has different laws when you post all kinds of stuff like if there legal its meaningless when it comes to vpns . Some governments has went as far as to ban them . But dont everywhere have this problem. Only the last link was about the law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 14 minutes ago, saeed_dc said: Only the last link was about the law My point exactly i been reading about vpns the dos and donots for 4 years . Only time I use tor is when im having trouble accessing a site or something I don't need it for what i do . your isp can see you're using tor without using a vpn with it it can be penetrated . I use 256 AES VPN with 2 firewalls . And I already know the difference in these things . If im not breaking the law, were im from using one.. i don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VileTouch Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 the VPN fallacy: "yeah, we accept to take full legal responsibility for everything you do online for only 7$ per month". Does this really sound... plausible ? don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 6 minutes ago, VileTouch said: the VPN fallacy: "yeah, we accept to take full legal responsibility for everything you do online for only 7$ per month". Does this really sound... plausible ? don't think so. Its like this if you do nothing to protect you're privacy, then you have no privacy. that's up too you .A VPN that don't log don't have to have legal responsibility because when they ask they simply say we don't have no logs and by law were not required to keep them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VileTouch Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 44 minutes ago, steven36 said: Its like this if you do nothing to protect you're privacy, then you have no privacy. that's up too you .A VPN that don't log don't have to have legal responsibility because when they ask they simply say we don't have no logs and by law were not required to keep them . except they do have logs, and they are obligued to keep them and turn in any and all information they have on you to authrorities should they ask. not doing so would get them into even deeper trouble, also they are required to NOT tell you of any surveillance operation being performed on you. of course, they won't go out of their way to rat you out either, but...just read the text you quoted out loud. see if it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 28 minutes ago, VileTouch said: except they do have logs, and they are obligued to keep them and turn in any and all information they have on you to authrorities should they ask. not doing so would get them into even deeper trouble, also they are required to NOT tell you of any surveillance operation being performed on you. of course, they won't go out of their way to rat you out either, but...just read the text you quoted out loud. see if it makes sense. Only a few cases i ever knew this happened 1 was a vpn that said they logged gave info on some hackers that's what they get for being that dumb and uses one that logs the other was using a cdn while the vpn didn't log the cdn did and they gave out his info . None of it had anything to do with filesharing .Its more likely what ever government you have will ban vpns before you ever get in trouble for using them. If what you say was true no one would buy vpns and they would be horror stories on the internet everyday the press would eat that shit up.. Cyberghost even post a transparency report of what they reject from the Government and p2p every year . Those people who used Popcorn Time those vpns were free and all free vpns log not all vpns are the same lol Quote For certain VPN services - You might get caught. For certain VPN services - Your account will be suspended. For Few VPN services - You won't get caught, nor suspended. VPN services like StrongVPN, Hidemyass, ExpressVPN, Astrill strongly ban and suspend their users for downloading torrents. Simply, because they do not allow this on their network. In fact if they receive legal notice against you (from certain agency, we all know of) you might get caught or penalized. However, there are certain VPN Services that not only Torrents, but they thrive on such users. Few VPN services that will not ban/suspend you and through which you won't get caught are, VPNTunnel.se CryptoCloud CyberghostVPN Private Internet Access BTguard IAPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VileTouch Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 1 hour ago, steven36 said: Only a few cases i ever knew this happened 1 was a vpn that said they logged gave info on some hackers that's what they get for being that dumb and uses one that logs the other was using a cdn while the vpn didn't log the cdn did and they gave out his info . None of it had anything to do with filesharing .Its more likely what ever government you have will ban vpns before you ever get in trouble for using them. If what you say was true no one would buy vpns and they would be horror stories on the internet everyday the press would eat that shit up.. Cyberghost even post a transparency report of what they reject from the Government and p2p every year . Those people who used Popcorn Time those vpns were free and all free vpns log not all vpns are the same lol so you really think they are willing to put their neck on the line for $7 a month. and pay legal fees from their own pocket every time a user fucks up....for $7 a month. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 3 hours ago, steven36 said: Its like this if you do nothing to protect you're privacy, then you have no privacy. that's up too you .A VPN that don't log don't have to have legal responsibility because when they ask they simply say we don't have no logs and by law were not required to keep them . Quote How can you be sure that they're not keeping logs? Unless you see their actual infrastructure/code, you'll never know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 6 hours ago, VileTouch said: so you really think they are willing to put their neck on the line for $7 a month. and pay legal fees from their own pocket every time a user fucks up....for $7 a month. :/ Do you have any real proof they don't? Cyberghost they have 2 million users that would be $14 million dollars a month . VPNs are one the most profitable business on the internet . CyberGhost VPN started out in Germany in 2004 and the German police tried to get user data from them so to protect there costumers moved to Romania in 2011. So they were even tested by the police before and didn't give in, they moved there servers. . If you made millions a month would you not protect you're users? Robert Knapp – CyberGhostVPN Stands as Last Line of Defense as NSA Kills Online Privacy http://www.bestvpnservice.com/blog/an-interview-with-cyberghost-vpn-ceo-robert-knapp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 6 hours ago, saeed_dc said: Quote At the beginning of March 2012, Iran began implementing an internal Interanet. This effort is partially in response to Western actions to exploit its Internet connectivity such as the Stuxnet cyberattack which have fueled suspicions of foreign technologies.The government's response has included requiring the use of Iranian email systems, blocking popular webmail services, inhibiting encryption use by disabling VPNs and HTTPS, and banning externally developed security software. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Ira You're entitled to you're opinion and i respect that but you're opinion about VPN usage seems to be inline with the country you're from and not the rest of the worlds .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 21 minutes ago, steven36 said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Iran Of course you would be against VPN usage if you're really from Iran Yes banning externally developed security software was the best decision ever made and we instead use internally developed software. Iran's Intranet works in parallel with Internet, it is implemented and increased security and speed of internally hosted websites and servers, so in case the world wide Internet is not working anymore, the country's infrastructure remains intact. no HTTPS or VPN or proxy is blocked, I told you already I can even give you internally hosted VPNs for 1$ / 3 months so no feds or FBI will go after you when you do illegal stuff. I can also give you 99% assurance no logs are kept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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