Petrovic Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 When your product has millions of users, any change that you make is guaranteed to impact a significant number of people. So, when you decide the time has come to remove a traditional feature, you are sure to encounter some resistance. Question is, where do you go from there? Mozilla is in this exact situation. The organization apparently wants to drop support for FTP in a future version of its Firefox browser. And, even though most folks are likely not making use of it, there are still hundreds of thousands if not millions of other people who will be affected. FTP support is actually seen as a bug on Bugzilla, Mozilla's bug tracker, which is where the removal was suggested earlier this year. The report, called "Remove built-in support for FTP", has, so far, gathered the attention of small part of Firefox's loyal user base, with only a handful of users leaving a comment; most, however, see it as a terrible idea. Some of the replies we could not even post here, given the tone that was used. The bug report lists no reason as to why FTP support should be removed from Firefox. Doug Turner, the tester who proposed this change, only points to a Chromium project issue for more information, but without adding any clarification after. The Chromium issue discusses the idea of removing FTP support, to streamline the browser, while providing users with an alternative, specifically an app or extension which they could download to replace the dropped functionality. This issue dates back to mid-January 2014, and, so far, FTP support is still alive and well in browsers like Google Chrome, as there is apparently no viable route for offering FTP support as non-baked-in functionality. At the time of writing this article, the Bugzilla bug is not assigned to anyone, so that means there is nothing concrete that is being done to strip the FTP support from Firefox. That could very well change as the bug gains more attention from developers. There is also the issue that it is not clear whether FTP extensions -- there are a few available, indeed -- would work without built-in support for FTP in Firefox. Clearly, we do not yet know much work would be involved in this project. This suggests that it may take a while before we would actually see a release that ships without this feature.As I implied above, the problem that Mozilla has, if it wants to actually go through with it, is that there still are many folks who make use of FTP support. In case you are not familiar with how FTP is used, a relevant usage case is the downloading of installation files, such as, ironically, Mozilla's own browser. As some commenters have pointed out, FTP servers are also a valuable resource for downloading older files. While there are no numbers provided, Google estimates that around 0.1 to 0.2 percent of Chrome users rely on FTP. That may not mean much, but when you consider how many million of users a popular browser may have, we are still talking in the order of hundreds of thousands, millions even, of people. And Mozilla can't afford to lose any more Firefox users. Looking at the W3Schools browser stats, Firefox had a market share of nearly 50 percent in 2009. Now, it is down to just above 20 percent market share. NetMarketShare says that, from October 2013 to September 2015, Firefox's market share dropped from 18.7 percent to 11.46 percent. No matter the source of the stats, one thing is clear -- Firefox is bleeding users and what Mozilla is doing ain't helping. Mozilla might still decide that this bug shouldn't be pursued, which would be the sensible approach given Firefox's performance. So, we have reached out for a comment, and will update this story accordingly.Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The Chromium issue discusses the idea of removing FTP support, to streamline the browserI haven't seen any evidence of Mozilla streamlining Firefox, the last few versions have added unwanted support for Pocket, apps and chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RejZoR Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 That's the dumbest decision yet. I don't wnat to use yet another god damn add-on just to download files from FTP pages. What's a bigger ballast, having a slim FTP support at the browser core or having the need to use a god damn add-on for 99% of time you don't need it? Just leave the god damn FTP support in the browser. It's not like the FTP support offers uploading, it's just a regular download support. I just don't get their logic lately. They are trying to "streamline" a runner by cutting away the legs... moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted October 27, 2015 Administrator Share Posted October 27, 2015 It's quite an essential feature. Even many non-browser softwares like download managers have supported it since long time, if not from the start. Not sure how big difference it would make by removing such a seemingly small but important feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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