Should You Upgrade to Windows 10?

[steven36]

Most individuals who are using Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 have received Microsoft’s intrusive “Get Windows 10″ advertisement, asking you to “reserve” your free upgrade to this new OS and prep your PC to download it so you can install on day one. Which is all well and good. But should you? And if so, when?

There are no easy answers here. Upgrading a perfectly good Windows PC to a new version of the OS is fraught with peril. It may not work. And if it does work, Windows 10 is new enough that you may be confused by how it works. And you may want to bend Windows 10 to your will, and make it work more like the Windows version you previously used.

My job is to help with all that, of course. But for now I’d like to focus just on the upgrade and the reasons one might actually undertake this risk.

If you have to ask … doesn’t actually apply here. During the beta, if people asked me whether some build of Windows 10 was good enough, or reliable enough, to install on their daily-use PCs, I’d say that just asking that question suggests you’re perhaps not technical enough to do so. But with Windows 10 shipping in non-preview form on July 29 for the first time, the calculation changes. We can and should assume that a fully supported new Windows version will generally be good enough for even novice users.

Should I install Windows 10 on July 29? This is a more specific question related to timing, and here that pat phrase works well. If you’re seriously wondering whether Windows 10 is good enough, stable enough, or reliable enough to install on day one, then please wait. Windows 10 will only get better over time, and while millions of people supposed tested this OS, hundreds of millions of people will be using it on their real daily-use PCs within a year. And when that happens, we’ll know more about how well it really works. And Microsoft will have fixed any serious issues that didn’t come up during testing. Which, by the way, happens every single time Microsoft releases a new version of Windows.

When should I install Windows 10? It’s impossible to answer that right now, but the timing will vary according to your technical proficiency (particularly your ability to recover from disaster) and the real world reliability and stability of the OS. Technical users—people who really know what they’re doing and have backed up any relevant data and can restore their PC to a factory-fresh state—don’t need to wait, of course, and many of these people are enthusiasts who will want Windows 10 as soon as possible. More typical users—those in my family, for example, have a full year before they need to take advantage of the free upgrade offer. There’s no need to rush this.

Why would I even want to upgrade to Windows 10? Every new Windows version comes with some advantages over its predecessors in the form of functional improvements, support for new hardware, more and better built-in apps, or whatever. In the case of Windows 10, the big bang underlying platform improvements came in Windows 8, but that version of course ruined the interaction model for over one billion users, so Windows 10 fixes the biggest issues in the form of a new Start menu and modern (universal) apps that can now run in windowed form side-by-side with other applications on the desktop. For Windows 7 users, the upgrade is slightly less compelling.

But Windows 8.1 users in particular should seriously consider upgrading as soon as they are comfortable doing so. Either way, there are some interesting advances in Windows 10: a real notification center, a voice-activated Cortana digital assistant, deeper integration with your Xbox consoles, and a new virtual desktops feature that power users will enjoy. For those with tablets and 2-in-1 PCs, a technology called Continuum will make the transition between tablet mode and normal desktop operation more seamless.

You don’t have to upgrade. Remember, Windows 7 with SP1 is fully supported by Microsoft for over four more years, and if you’re using a Windows 7-based PC, you’ll likely want to upgrade to a new PC by then anyway. For Windows 8.1, the support lifecycle stretches out even further, and of course these PCs are newer and more modern, and Windows 8.1 works pretty well in my opinion, and besides, you can use excellent and inexpensive third party utilities like Stardock Start8 and ModernMix to fix Windows 8.1’s biggest problems without having to go through the perils of upgrading to a new OS version.

You can always reserve the Windows 10 upgrade and the defer updating. If you want to make sure your PC is registered with Microsoft so that you can get the free upgrade and then just install it at some later date—literally, whenever you want—then go for it. You do not have to install Windows 10 just because you said yes to the Get Windows 10 utility.

Windows 10 will only get better. Windows 10 will never really be done, and Microsoft plans to update it regularly for years to come. The version of Windows 10 you install in September, or December, or in July 2016 will be significantly better than the version you could get this July. There is no harm in waiting.

What am I (Paul) going to do? I’m going to upgrade all of my PCs to Windows 10 as soon as I can. I will do that in part because I’m writing a book about Windows 10, and because I want to understand the issues that others will see when they upgrade their own PCs. And of course I focus on current and future technology here on Thurrott.com, and there isn’t going to be much new to say about Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 going forward. But as a technology enthusiast, I’m very interested in anything new, and with Windows 10 in particular I am very happy to see a return to desktop-centricity in this release since most of the PCs I use are traditional form factor devices with keyboards and mice.

Here on this site and in the book Windows 10 Field Guide, I will provide all of the information you need to upgrade to Windows 10 safely, and to recover back to your previous OS version, with all your data intact. But only you can determine whether you even want to do this, and if so when. That’s not a cop out: I will give you the information you need to make the right decision for you. If you do choose to upgrade, you should do so at your own speed, when you want, and how you want.

Let me know if you have any questions. Windows 10—and in particular the effort of upgrading to this new OS version—is going to be the defining topic of our next year, I bet.

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/4026/should-you-upgrade-to-windows-10

[Sylence]

Those are mostly the opinion of the writer, people at Microsoft along with millions of other people (corporations excluded) have different thoughts; by July 29 Windows 10 will be ready for everyone. if you don't want to trust Microsoft at the beginning how do you want to trust them in the next year? waiting 1 year more for Windows 10 to get better is like someone with a regular phone but wants to wait 10 years more because he/she thinks current smartphones aren't smart enough for him/her!

[steven36]

Those are mostly the opinion of the writer, people at Microsoft along with millions of other people (corporations excluded) have different thoughts; by July 29 Windows 10 will be ready for everyone. if you don't want to trust Microsoft at the beginning how do you want to trust them in the next year? waiting 1 year more for Windows 10 to get better is like someone with a regular phone but wants to wait 10 years more because he/she thinks current smartphones aren't smart enough for him/her!

If its really ready it will be the 1st time in history . Most all windows i upgraded too ether a SP was out or getting ready to come out i remember win7 before service pack 1. i even had trouble doing things on desktop tell they fixed it in sp1 :lol:

i read were people are having to update lan drivers and all kinds of stuff just make there pc compatible to see the little icon that nothing is there for yet . You're going see it ether way when it comes out if its compatible or not. Its mad if you ask me it may backfire on them from all the troubles people are having . People are having trouble with it and it is not even out yet . :s

[Sonar]

I will be upgrading when it gets here, hopefully all the bugs will be fixed.

[Sylence]

Those are mostly the opinion of the writer, people at Microsoft along with millions of other people (corporations excluded) have different thoughts; by July 29 Windows 10 will be ready for everyone. if you don't want to trust Microsoft at the beginning how do you want to trust them in the next year? waiting 1 year more for Windows 10 to get better is like someone with a regular phone but wants to wait 10 years more because he/she thinks current smartphones aren't smart enough for him/her!

If its really ready it will be the 1st time in history . Most all windows i upgraded too ether a SP was out or getting ready to come out i remember win7 before service pack 1. i even had trouble doing things on desktop tell they fixed it in sp1 :lol:

i read were people are having to update lan drivers and all kinds of stuff just make there pc compatible to see the little icon that nothing is there for yet . You're going see it ether way when it comes out if its compatible or not. Its mad if you ask me it may backfire on them from all the troubles people are having . People are having trouble with it and it is not even out yet . :s

Yeah you're right, Microsoft didn't do very well on previous Windows OSes but they say it's gonna be totally different this time and they've proved in beta releases. we shouldn't expect hardware manufacturers to release hardware drivers for the new OS so fast because they have to wait to see the latest changes Microsoft is gonna make in Windows 10. I started using Windows 10 build 1002xx on a laptop which had come with Win 7 preinstalled and isn't certified for Win 8 but when i installed Windows 10 on it, all the drivers (except for graphic because it doesn't support DX12) appeared on windows update and there were never any problems with drivers, least for me.

[steven36]

I will be upgrading when it gets here, hopefully all the bugs will be fixed.

It will be one day if its any good but you're and enthusiast.. I ask my family if they was doing it they say there not going too yet . There happy with windows 7 . In my hose there's only one win 8.1 machine and that's mine

Those are mostly the opinion of the writer, people at Microsoft along with millions of other people (corporations excluded) have different thoughts; by July 29 Windows 10 will be ready for everyone. if you don't want to trust Microsoft at the beginning how do you want to trust them in the next year? waiting 1 year more for Windows 10 to get better is like someone with a regular phone but wants to wait 10 years more because he/she thinks current smartphones aren't smart enough for him/her!

If its really ready it will be the 1st time in history . Most all windows i upgraded too ether a SP was out or getting ready to come out i remember win7 before service pack 1. i even had trouble doing things on desktop tell they fixed it in sp1 :lol:

i read were people are having to update lan drivers and all kinds of stuff just make there pc compatible to see the little icon that nothing is there for yet . You're going see it ether way when it comes out if its compatible or not. Its mad if you ask me it may backfire on them from all the troubles people are having . People are having trouble with it and it is not even out yet . :s

Yeah you're right, Microsoft didn't do very well on previous Windows OSes but they say it's gonna be totally different this time and they've proved in beta releases. we shouldn't expect hardware manufacturers to release hardware drivers for the new OS so fast because they have to wait to see the latest changes Microsoft is gonna make in Windows 10. I started using Windows 10 build 1002xx on a laptop which had come with Win 7 preinstalled and isn't certified for Win 8 but when i installed Windows 10 on it, all the drivers (except for graphic because it doesn't support DX12) appeared on windows update and there were never any problems with drivers, least for me.

I hope it goes really good I'm going to wait like a week after it comes out to see what everyone says before i decide . :)

[mjall]

man that question should never asked anymore, I mean we have been in such a roller coaster since vista as to whether should people upgrade to the new OS or not; I mean can we all continue driving a 1990 BMW, i will say hell no, so if people like to stick with the past well it's not technology anymore, technology comes with change and innovation so you can't stop apple releasing every year a new phone and guess what why dont' people wine about it like they do with windows, the hell they don't change a bit in the phone except a number

[banned]

Should You Upgrade to Windows 10?

I won't be. I don't even like Windows 7 or 8.1, but I like them better than 10 so far.

[steven36]

man that question should never asked anymore, I mean we have been in such a roller coaster since vista as to whether should people upgrade to the new OS or not; I mean can we all continue driving a 1990 BMW, i will say hell no, so if people like to stick with the past well it's not technology anymore, technology comes with change and innovation so you can't stop apple releasing every year a new phone and guess what why dont' people wine about it like they do with windows, the hell they don't change a bit in the phone except a number

Microsoft and Cars have a lot in conman ... both keep selling less and less new products every year , Both keep downsizing and laying off workers..Computers Desktop shipments are at all time low .

The difference is cars you must have them in many parts of the world and the old classic out in my driveway can do just about same thing as the the new one out there .

Computers for home usage have started being replaced by phones for along time . People who still has desktops has a phone and people who don't has a phone . Desktop's are becoming the outdated technology . unless you're some business that depends on them.

.And they dont even like having to pay Microsoft money every so often for windows . They have to train employes to use them and people to install them .It cost a lot of money . That's why many business paid money to Microsoft to keep updating XP long after updates were dead . For basic computer use unless you're a gamer XP can do basically the same thing .Its really not evolved that much .

But this article does not say don't update it says update when you fell you're ready and you dont have to update unless you want. :)

[mjall]

man that question should never asked anymore, I mean we have been in such a roller coaster since vista as to whether should people upgrade to the new OS or not; I mean can we all continue driving a 1990 BMW, i will say hell no, so if people like to stick with the past well it's not technology anymore, technology comes with change and innovation so you can't stop apple releasing every year a new phone and guess what why dont' people wine about it like they do with windows, the hell they don't change a bit in the phone except a number

Microsoft and Cars have a lot in conman ... both keep selling less and less new products every year , Both keep downsizing and laying off workers..Computers Desktop shipments are at all time low .

The difference is cars you must have them in many parts of the world and the old classic out in my driveway can do just about same thing as the the new one out there .

Computers for home usage have started being replaced by phones for along time . People who still has desktops has a phone and people who don't has a phone . Desktop's are becoming the outdated technology . unless you're some business that depends on them.

.And they dont even like having to pay Microsoft money every so often for windows . They have to train employes to use them and people to install them .It cost a lot of money . That's why many business paid money to Microsoft to keep updating XP long after updates were dead . For basic computer use unless you're a gamer XP can do basically the same thing .Its really not evolved that much .

But this article does not say don't update it says update when you fell you're ready and you dont have to update unless you want. :)

I will sure upgrade to windows 10 and I think desktop computers and phones are two separate items which unfortunately the public don't see it that way, I do not want to live in the era where I have to work on excel sheets on a mobile screen, that's what people can't seem to separate between phones which is when your outside home and that's why it's called a mobile; anyhow people have different tastes and opinions and can't change people or what they think; we are living in an era where everyone follows trends which is sad

[steven36]

man that question should never asked anymore, I mean we have been in such a roller coaster since vista as to whether should people upgrade to the new OS or not; I mean can we all continue driving a 1990 BMW, i will say hell no, so if people like to stick with the past well it's not technology anymore, technology comes with change and innovation so you can't stop apple releasing every year a new phone and guess what why dont' people wine about it like they do with windows, the hell they don't change a bit in the phone except a number

Microsoft and Cars have a lot in conman ... both keep selling less and less new products every year , Both keep downsizing and laying off workers..Computers Desktop shipments are at all time low .

The difference is cars you must have them in many parts of the world and the old classic out in my driveway can do just about same thing as the the new one out there .

Computers for home usage have started being replaced by phones for along time . People who still has desktops has a phone and people who don't has a phone . Desktop's are becoming the outdated technology . unless you're some business that depends on them.

.And they dont even like having to pay Microsoft money every so often for windows . They have to train employes to use them and people to install them .It cost a lot of money . That's why many business paid money to Microsoft to keep updating XP long after updates were dead . For basic computer use unless you're a gamer XP can do basically the same thing .Its really not evolved that much .

But this article does not say don't update it says update when you fell you're ready and you dont have to update unless you want. :)

I will sure upgrade to windows 10 and I think desktop computers and phones are two separate items which unfortunately the public don't see it that way, I do not want to live in the era where I have to work on excel sheets on a mobile screen, that's what people can't seem to separate between phones which is when your outside home and that's why it's called a mobile; anyhow people have different tastes and opinions and can't change people or what they think; we are living in an era where everyone follows trends which is sad

Windows 10 won't save the PC

Fixing Windows 8's most glaring flaws is nice, but the new Windows doesn't address the fundamental PC dilemma

As soon as July, Windows 10 will finally arrive on PCs as a real, shipping product -- not a beta "technology preview" release. Microsoft is urging developers to build for it using its universal app strategy that also supports Windows Phone apps and touch-based features for Windows PCs and tablets. Microsoft also hopes Windows 10 will remove the horror that is Windows 8 from the equation, so users and companies alike start moving their PCs into the 2010s.

Don't hold your breath. I don't believe Windows 10 will help the PC in a meaningful way, past the first month or so of upgrades. The fact is Windows 10 does very little to make the PC more compelling, and it offers marginally more than Windows 7.

In the case of Windows 10, Microsoft is offering a new OS with no truly compelling capabilities.

If you have Windows 7, moving to Windows 10 does no real harm, but it provides no real benefit either. If you have Windows 8, Windows 10 is essentially your way back to Windows 7 -- because Windows 10 is Windows 7 with the face-saving integration of the Windows 8 Metro UI.

It's Windows XP users who should jump on Windows 10, assuming they haven't already switched to a Mac. (Macs are the only PCs whose sales continue to increase nearly every month for the past several years while the PC market has oscillated between flat and negative.)

For most people, Windows 10 will be simply what comes on a new PC, which you might get when your current PC is too old keep.

Windows 10 is a bare repair of Windows 8

Let me be clear: Windows 10 is a decent OS. Its problem is that it only partially repairs the damage done by Windows 8 while offering no compelling capabilities for those who wisely skipped Windows 8. That means demand will be low, both as OS upgrades and -- more critical -- for new PCs running it. Basically, if you have a decent Windows 7 PC, you're fine as is.

The biggest changes in Windows 10 are fixes for Windows 8: The Start menu is back, and the confusing Charms bar is gone, as is the separate window for one-screen Metro apps (those Metro apps now run in windows like normal Windows apps).

Windows 10 doesn't completely erase the idiocy of Windows 8. Yes, the Start menu is back, but it's soiled by being designed like a miniature version of the Windows 8 Metro Start screen. It's an inefficient, confusing, space-hogging design. Yes, it is better than the Windows 8 Start screen, but that's a very low bar.

Likewise, Windows 10's settings are still split among the old-school Control Panel and the new-school Settings app, which makes managing your PC a "where's Waldo" exercise most days. Windows 10 has altered the balance of which settings are where, but it hasn't eliminated the split.

The best new features in Windows 10 are Cortana (though the voice-based search tool spies on you, which is unsettling) and the new Project Spartan browser that finally conforms to standard HTML, as Chrome, Firefox, and Safari have long done.

I suspect Internet Explorer's road ends in Windows 10, with the dual inclusion of IE and Spartan meant to be the bridge period to finally get IT to replace or update apps that still rely on ActiveX, old Java version, and other legacy technologies that are both huge management and security risks. Getting rid of IE is a good move, but I don't see why it should be for a Windows-only browser like Spartan. In this day and age, it makes more sense to replace IE with Chrome, Firefox, or even Safari.

Another touted change is a minor and (as of the current beta) half-baked catch-up item for what OS X, Android, and iOS already do: the notifications center.

The bundled apps from Microsoft are no great shakes, mainly "lite" apps taken from Metro. If you compare them to what Apple bundles in OS X and iOS, you'll see how pathetic they are.

One way to advance the Windows platform is to advance the Windows ecosystem, especially to create federated functionality as Apple does so well. Windows 10 missed this opportunity. Perhaps Microsoft is counting on Office 365 to be that federation mechanism; if so, its cloud storage aspect need major work before it's production-ready, and Microsoft must up its productivity apps' cross-platform game.

Unneeded radical updates have trained users to stay put

When it comes to Windows, Microsoft has lurched from one major upgrade to the next ever since the first "real" version (Windows 3.1) in 1994. The company seems determined to make change for change's sake, introducing radical UI shifts in most new versions. As a result, adopting a new Windows version means retraining every user and causing many to stick with what they know works.

If you look at Apple's more rapid pace of OS X updates, you'll see a much slower rate of UI change. Each new version works essentially like the old version for core capabilities. The usage paradigm does not suddenly change, even if Apple introduces new paradigms like Handoff in OS X Yosemite, tabbed Finder windows in OS X Mavericks, code-signed apps in OS X Mountain Lion, or API-based central management in OS X Lion.

As a result, the Mac experience is fairly smooth and well integrated from version to version. (There are times Apple has not been so smooth, of course.) By contrast, the Windows experience is a shellshock nearly every time. In the early days of personal computing, rapid change was welcome because we were all still figuring out what personal computing was. Today, we all know what PCs are for.

PCs also have new competition such as smartphones and tablets, which have caused many users to divert their time away from the PC outside of work and a few core household functions. Apple understood that in its ecosystem approach to OS X and iOS, which is one reason Mac sales grow while Windows PC sales don't: You probably will get one or two iPads before you get a new computer, but when you get a new computer, it's more likely to be a Mac due to that integration.

There's your instructive irony: OS X doesn't need radical changes to get users to adopt it. Instead, it is a largely pleasant "gift" from Apple that confirms why you like a Mac in the first place. OS X is not a driver for new Mac sales, but a benefit of buying a Mac.

To drive new hardware sales (not only of Macs but of all its products), Apple relies instead on a "virtuous ecosystem" -- Macs, iPads, iPhones, Apple TVs, Apple Watches, and iTunes -- that work better together, so when you get new gear, it's likely to also come from Apple.

Microsoft has none of this. Because each new Windows version is either messy or uncompelling, users have no reason to adopt that new version or buy the hardware for it. That's why new Windows versions don't drive PC sales as they used to. Microsoft has no virtuous ecosystem to help drive PC sales; all it has is Windows, and that doesn't do the trick any more.

Until the dynamic changes, Windows 10 -- or any new Windows version -- won't help the PC grow again.

Unneeded radical updates have trained users to stay put

When it comes to Windows, Microsoft has lurched from one major upgrade to the next ever since the first "real" version (Windows 3.1) in 1994. The company seems determined to make change for change's sake, introducing radical UI shifts in most new versions. As a result, adopting a new Windows version means retraining every user and causing many to stick with what they know works.

If you look at Apple's more rapid pace of OS X updates, you'll see a much slower rate of UI change. Each new version works essentially like the old version for core capabilities. The usage paradigm does not suddenly change, even if Apple introduces new paradigms like Handoff in OS X Yosemite, tabbed Finder windows in OS X Mavericks, code-signed apps in OS X Mountain Lion, or API-based central management in OS X Lion.

As a result, the Mac experience is fairly smooth and well integrated from version to version. (There are times Apple has not been so smooth, of course.) By contrast, the Windows experience is a shellshock nearly every time. In the early days of personal computing, rapid change was welcome because we were all still figuring out what personal computing was. Today, we all know what PCs are for.

PCs also have new competition such as smartphones and tablets, which have caused many users to divert their time away from the PC outside of work and a few core household functions. Apple understood that in its ecosystem approach to OS X and iOS, which is one reason Mac sales grow while Windows PC sales don't: You probably will get one or two iPads before you get a new computer, but when you get a new computer, it's more likely to be a Mac due to that integration.

There's your instructive irony: OS X doesn't need radical changes to get users to adopt it. Instead, it is a largely pleasant "gift" from Apple that confirms why you like a Mac in the first place. OS X is not a driver for new Mac sales, but a benefit of buying a Mac.

To drive new hardware sales (not only of Macs but of all its products), Apple relies instead on a "virtuous ecosystem" -- Macs, iPads, iPhones, Apple TVs, Apple Watches, and iTunes -- that work better together, so when you get new gear, it's likely to also come from Apple.

Microsoft has none of this. Because each new Windows version is either messy or uncompelling, users have no reason to adopt that new version or buy the hardware for it. That's why new Windows versions don't drive PC sales as they used to. Microsoft has no virtuous ecosystem to help drive PC sales; all it has is Windows, and that doesn't do the trick any more.

Until the dynamic changes, Windows 10 -- or any new Windows version -- won't help the PC grow again.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2914152/microsoft-windows/windows-10-wont-save-the-pc.html

[knowledge-Spammer]

just now i thinking about this as i just get the upgrade msg

see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okx3jFUBvZ8&feature=youtu.be

[MidnightDistortions]

man that question should never asked anymore, I mean we have been in such a roller coaster since vista as to whether should people upgrade to the new OS or not; I mean can we all continue driving a 1990 BMW, i will say hell no, so if people like to stick with the past well it's not technology anymore, technology comes with change and innovation so you can't stop apple releasing every year a new phone and guess what why dont' people wine about it like they do with windows, the hell they don't change a bit in the phone except a number

Except it's nothing like driving a car, you can go out and buy a new car anytime you get tired of your old one or you simply have enough mileage/years on it to want to trade it in but unless you like having the headache of trying to get all your stuff to work with the new OS i prefer to wait it out. There's plenty of suckers out there or people who get the new OS to test it out so MS would work out all the bugs so when people upgrade they're not going to have that much of a headache.

So if you like having problems with your OS by all means upgrade when it comes out, but i prefer not having problems and i'll just stick to what i have for now. It's like me wanting to stick with my car, i already know how to fix things on it, i already know how to fix stuff on W7 no problem i can fix easy problems with it without needing to go through and restart from scratch. But anyway if you want to be a guinea pig by all means upgrade to W10 first chance you get.

[mjall]

man that question should never asked anymore, I mean we have been in such a roller coaster since vista as to whether should people upgrade to the new OS or not; I mean can we all continue driving a 1990 BMW, i will say hell no, so if people like to stick with the past well it's not technology anymore, technology comes with change and innovation so you can't stop apple releasing every year a new phone and guess what why dont' people wine about it like they do with windows, the hell they don't change a bit in the phone except a number

Except it's nothing like driving a car, you can go out and buy a new car anytime you get tired of your old one or you simply have enough mileage/years on it to want to trade it in but unless you like having the headache of trying to get all your stuff to work with the new OS i prefer to wait it out. There's plenty of suckers out there or people who get the new OS to test it out so MS would work out all the bugs so when people upgrade they're not going to have that much of a headache.

So if you like having problems with your OS by all means upgrade when it comes out, but i prefer not having problems and i'll just stick to what i have for now. It's like me wanting to stick with my car, i already know how to fix things on it, i already know how to fix stuff on W7 no problem i can fix easy problems with it without needing to go through and restart from scratch. But anyway if you want to be a guinea pig by all means upgrade to W10 first chance you get.

well i'm not sure where did you pick that I ever mentioned that I want to jump on the wagon to get the first ever release of windows 10 and that deviates from what I wrote above which proves my point about how the public already ore-perceive windows - thanks for proving my point man :)

[capacitor]

I will be upgrading when it gets here, hopefully all the bugs will be fixed.

It will be one day if its any good but you're and enthusiast.. I ask my family if they was doing it they say there not going too yet . There happy with windows 7 . In my hose there's only one win 8.1 machine and that's mine

Those are mostly the opinion of the writer, people at Microsoft along with millions of other people (corporations excluded) have different thoughts; by July 29 Windows 10 will be ready for everyone. if you don't want to trust Microsoft at the beginning how do you want to trust them in the next year? waiting 1 year more for Windows 10 to get better is like someone with a regular phone but wants to wait 10 years more because he/she thinks current smartphones aren't smart enough for him/her!

If its really ready it will be the 1st time in history . Most all windows i upgraded too ether a SP was out or getting ready to come out i remember win7 before service pack 1. i even had trouble doing things on desktop tell they fixed it in sp1 :lol:

i read were people are having to update lan drivers and all kinds of stuff just make there pc compatible to see the little icon that nothing is there for yet . You're going see it ether way when it comes out if its compatible or not. Its mad if you ask me it may backfire on them from all the troubles people are having . People are having trouble with it and it is not even out yet . :s

Yeah you're right, Microsoft didn't do very well on previous Windows OSes but they say it's gonna be totally different this time and they've proved in beta releases. we shouldn't expect hardware manufacturers to release hardware drivers for the new OS so fast because they have to wait to see the latest changes Microsoft is gonna make in Windows 10. I started using Windows 10 build 1002xx on a laptop which had come with Win 7 preinstalled and isn't certified for Win 8 but when i installed Windows 10 on it, all the drivers (except for graphic because it doesn't support DX12) appeared on windows update and there were never any problems with drivers, least for me.

I hope it goes really good I'm going to wait like a week after it comes out to see what everyone says before i decide . :)

When talking Linux OS its a little different, but when talking Windows you have to look at the Windows NT numbers to know what you are looking at. Windows NT 6.0 (Vista) and its family are still continuing today. NT 6.1 was Windows 7. NT 6.2 was Windows 8. NT 6.3 was Windows 8.1. And NT 6.4 is Windows 10 preview and Windows 10 moving to NT 10 which will be the first time the OS and Kernel match up.

When Windows 10 releases, which is really at the core of what we are discussing here, we are not talking about a "new" OS, IMHO, but we are talking about a small, incremental, late lifecycle upgrade from 6.3 to 6.4 to 10 with some new features (new FEATURES might be avoided, but not the OS itself) and lots of security, stability and performance upgrades to the core OS

So the OS itself will have quite a bit of field time both in desktop protection and in Server RC candidates before being released as production.

So even if you consider Windows 10 to be a new OS, which I do not at all, both because of faith in the vendor's diligence and the heavy industry use of the product before production release I would consider it battle tested even on release day.

But truly, think of it only as a minor update and not a new OS and suddenly the reasons to deploy it become very clear. This isn't "new code" but is, in reality, the most mature, well tested version of the NT family. As a late release, it is the oldest, not the newest, copy of the code.

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man that question should never asked anymore, I mean we have been in such a roller coaster since vista as to whether should people upgrade to the new OS or not; I mean can we all continue driving a 1990 BMW, i will say hell no, so if people like to stick with the past well it's not technology anymore, technology comes with change and innovation so you can't stop apple releasing every year a new phone and guess what why dont' people wine about it like they do with windows, the hell they don't change a bit in the phone except a number

Except it's nothing like driving a car, you can go out and buy a new car anytime you get tired of your old one or you simply have enough mileage/years on it to want to trade it in but unless you like having the headache of trying to get all your stuff to work with the new OS i prefer to wait it out. There's plenty of suckers out there or people who get the new OS to test it out so MS would work out all the bugs so when people upgrade they're not going to have that much of a headache.

So if you like having problems with your OS by all means upgrade when it comes out, but i prefer not having problems and i'll just stick to what i have for now. It's like me wanting to stick with my car, i already know how to fix things on it, i already know how to fix stuff on W7 no problem i can fix easy problems with it without needing to go through and restart from scratch. But anyway if you want to be a guinea pig by all means upgrade to W10 first chance you get.

When talking Linux OS its a little different, but when talking Windows you have to look at the Windows NT numbers to know what you are looking at. Windows NT 6.0 (Vista) and its family are still continuing today. NT 6.1 was Windows 7. NT 6.2 was Windows 8. NT 6.3 was Windows 8.1. And NT 6.4 is Windows 10 preview and Windows 10 moving to NT 10 which will be the first time the OS and Kernel match up.

When Windows 10 releases, which is really at the core of what we are discussing here, we are not talking about a "new" OS, IMHO, but we are talking about a small, incremental, late lifecycle upgrade from 6.3 to 6.4 to 10 with some new features (new FEATURES might be avoided, but not the OS itself) and lots of security, stability and performance upgrades to the core OS

So the OS itself will have quite a bit of field time both in desktop protection and in Server RC candidates before being released as production.

So even if you consider Windows 10 to be a new OS, which I do not at all, both because of faith in the vendor's diligence and the heavy industry use of the product before production release I would consider it battle tested even on release day.

But truly, think of it only as a minor update and not a new OS and suddenly the reasons to deploy it become very clear. This isn't "new code" but is, in reality, the most mature, well tested version of the NT family. As a late release, it is the oldest, not the newest, copy of the code.