shamu726 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Demonoid, once one of the Internet's most popular torrent sites, is now barring users who try to visit the site with advert blocking software Adblock installed. The move raises some interesting questions, not least the value of revenue to torrent sites and the intricacies of whether or not content really should be 'free'. There’s no such thing as a free lunch, or the so the saying goes. Nevertheless, every day millions of people use online services such as Google without paying a penny. It’s a situation the Internet generation has become very accustomed to.For millions of BitTorrent users, things move to the next level. After using any of the thousands of available torrent sites for free, content such as music, movies, TV shows, software and games flood into homes around the world, without cash directly forming part of any transaction.Of course, none of these mechanisms are truly free and for most public torrent sites it is advertising that provides the fuel to keep things running smoothly. While torrent site users don’t usually pay for access directly, by being a viewer of torrent site advertising and therefore a potential consumer, a convenient business arrangement allows ‘free’ access to ‘free’ content.Unless you’re a user of the semi-private tracker Demonoid, that is.In recent days Demonoid, once one of the most popular sites on the Internet, implemented new terms of access. If users don’t wish to contribute to revenue streams by viewing embedded advertising, they are now completely barred from the site.Disabling the popular Ad-Block browser plug-in does re-enable access to Demonoid but of course with that comes the reappearance of sometimes intrusive advertising, something which users of Ad-Block wish to avoid.Aside from familiar ‘fake’ buttons emblazoned with the words “Play” and “Download”, a strip of gaming focused ads adorn the site’s main page. While these aren’t too bad, annoying and rotating full-screen pop-under ads also make an appearance.For Demonoid and the majority of other similar sites, having users view ads is a vital part of site operations. Even if there is no intention to turn a profit, servers and other infrastructure still has to paid for and advertising is the number one way to make that happen. Just lately, however, even that hasn’t been as easy as it once was.There is a concerted effort around the world to stop major brands from advertising on so-called ‘pirate’ sites, so the pool of agencies willing to place ads on sites like Demonoid is dwindling. Solutions are still being found (Demonoid ads include well-known gaming outfits and large betting companies) but with site blocking around Europe and measures by Google to downrank sites, overall traffic is dwindling.With reduced traffic comes reduced revenue, a situation that may have prompted Demonoid to introduce its “No Ad-Block” policy in order to maximize returns, but even that has its unintended side effects.One of the pages that doesn’t carry ads is the “upload page” where Demonoid users can upload content to the site – content that arguably keeps the site going more than the ads do. Whether that’s intentional is unknown, but at least one user with 500 plus torrents to his name tells TF that he won’t be using the site or seeding while the Ad-Block policy is in place.“Some of us support the site by uploading content. Now I haven’t uploaded in a while, but I still support some 535 of my past Demonoid lossless torrents with a fast connection. Torrents I uploaded some three to six years ago,” the user says.“For now I think I will boycott the site. The few lossless people that post only on Demonoid aren’t posting right now. So I can get content from KickAss.”Of course, there is another large can of worms to be opened. By blocking non-contributing users because they aren’t ‘paying’ for content, some might argue that Demonoid is submitting to similar methods currently employed by the studios and labels when they apply for ISP site blocking injunctions.In both cases perceived content free-loaders are being barred from the system. Granted, both can overcome blocks relatively easily, but it’s nevertheless interesting how torrent sites and their arch enemies feel compelled to take similar steps to protect revenues when the going gets tough.Update: Demonoid informs TF that ad revenue has decreased a lot plus the site has had difficulty collecting money from affiliates. The site can accept donations via Bitcoin but Demonoid says that users are reluctant to use it.“We need to implement some measures, or we face closure,” the site concludes.Source: TorrentFreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Really . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I am right now logged-in, at Demonoid - with my Adblock Plus fully enabled. B) :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODYQX4 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 uBlock+uMatrix, allow 1st party script and cookies, but no 3rd party, and I see no walls being thrown up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zavana Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Or just add Reek/Anti-Adblock killer filter to your adblocker https://github.com/reek/anti-adblock-killerIts included in uBlock (optional) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamu726 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 @dcs18, @CODYQX4, do u have any anti-adblock filter enabled? If I disable my "reek's anti-adblock-killer" filter in APB, the site gives this message: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
player Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 no problem with ublock origin on chrome, no anti-adblock filter subscribed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugurano Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 its not fail for me why, the group working hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahulgi Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I am not a demonoid user, any one with account, please report the issue to fanboy/easylistreport the problem in this forum https://forums.lanik.us/(choose Report unblock content section) It may take a day or two to get a response(there are 100s of entry every day)Now who fails? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Only I need the filters Anti-Adblock Killer I can disable greasemonkey and Anti-Adblock Killer user script and it works with only the filters with uBlock or ABPThis works in ABP for Maxthonhttps://raw.github.com/reek/anti-adblock-killer/master/anti-adblock-killer-filters.txtUblock has them built in were you can subscribe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 @dcs18, @CODYQX4, do u have any anti-adblock filter enabled? If I disable my "reek's anti-adblock-killer" filter in APB, the site gives this message:None, bro. - I use only custom filter (absolutely no subscription filters.)And yes, I would hate to see Users being discriminated against - regardless of whether those Users were using Adblock Plus, Adguard, uBlock, or any other ad.blocker.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODYQX4 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Yes, I have his filter and the userscript for TamperMonkey.@dcs18, @CODYQX4, do u have any anti-adblock filter enabled? If I disable my "reek's anti-adblock-killer" filter in APB, the site gives this message: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I say it = fail Ive not signed it over at Demonoid in years really .. unless its really old and it has little seeds they don't have nothing other sites do even though there semi private or was . They vanished off the internet so many times I sort forgot about them. They have the worse track recoded of all sites of being down the most. If I want to go a real private site I do and they don't have ads to begin with because they get plenty of donations.. Forcing Anti ADBlock on us is sure not a reason to use them. I have my user scripts and filters for a reason and its not for this site they just work on it. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 for me in the uk its blocked so i use thishttp://www.site2unblock.com/service/page.php?u=tNru3bcg4%2FnAD%2FjfTSb%2BCQoNoQ%3D%3D&b=5and seems fine noads i use adguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyy Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Really . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I am right now logged-in, at Demonoid - with my Adblock Plus fully enabled. B) :lol:You little devil you!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alzz Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 None, bro. - I use only custom filter (absolutely no subscription filters)Can you please make the comment a bit more useful :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
software182 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 i don't see that message ( AdGuard ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VileTouch Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 None, bro. - I use only custom filter (absolutely no subscription filters)Can you please make the comment a bit more useful :)Not sure what you mean, but - click the following image for the bigger picture:-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alzz Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Not sure what you mean.I mean, can you share your systemwide and browser's security and privacy setup? We are hearing serenades for so long, but still did't had the opportunity to employ it ourselves :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Not sure what you mean.I mean, can you share your systemwide and browser's security and privacy setup? We are hearing serenades for so long, but still did't had the opportunity to employ it ourselves :)Sure . . . . . . . . . you can check out the 2 links at my signature - just let me know which site you wish to audit, using your ad. blocker (shall publish the rules for that site.) ;)You may want to check out some ad. blocking demonstrations at the following:--Post # 717Post # 8Post # 59Post # 13Post # 7Post # 1992You may also want to download the following:--http://www.mediafire.com/download/q3f5bchbojo6opy/Softexia_&_2baksa__(BEFORE_&_AFTER).rar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0veR Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I realy hate sites that force users to disable adblock. If you dont have money dont run site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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