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If I use a VPN/Proxy to go to a certain website, it will change my ip address of my browser and I can surf anonymously. However, if I download a torrent to acquire a file, will my true ip address be hidden.....I don't think so because the ip of my router never seems to change. Dose Utorrent show your true ip address?

So my question is, is it possible to use a VPN to change/hide a torrent download?

Is it possible to change my Ip address? I have done the ipconfig release etc and I have also gone into my router to try to get it released all with no success

My ISP is Shaw

thank you for any comments

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Well, depends, from who you want to hide your connection, your ISP will always see what you do on the internet, but other parties, if they try to track you, they'll track the VPN IP, not your real IP.

Think it more like this:

you and 3 people named ISP - VPN - WEB.

you ----->ISP----->VPN---->WEB

WEB---->VPN---->ISP---->you

So the WEB is "talking" with the VPN, it doesn't talk directly with you, so he knows only the VPN, then from VPN goes back to your ISP and to you.

In the USA, torrents are blocked by most of the VPNs because of the laws, but you can use another country server.

What you need to do is to configure well the VPN, i'm not the person who can recommend the best settings, since I don't have too many knowlodge about VPNs, but i'm sure many people will give you more details ;)

PS. you need to pick a VPN service that don't keep logs, because if the WEB asks the VPN for information, the VPN cannot give it because the information is deleted after the connection is closed, so even if they want to give that information they can't because they don't have it anymore. (But you never know if they realy delete the information or not).

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you ----->ISP----->VPN---->WEB

No Actually The Isp Will Only See That You're Connected To Vpn Server "vpn server ip "

All data In Or Out Are Encrypted for the isp

and 3d party wil see vpn server ip address

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Encryption is just a word to make people feel safe, in my opinion ;)

Btw the drawing was just to show who talks with who, but as I said, I don't know too much about VPNs.

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Encryption is just a word to make people feel safe, in my opinion ;)

Btw the drawing was just to show who talks with who, but as I said, I don't know too much about VPNs.

Your're right about your expression about encryption

as long as the user won't use vpn to do any stuff that harms security or ... you know what i mean involving in shitty stuff he got nothing to worry about . downloading torrent won't kill the nation

me too i don't know much about vpns and your approach seems to be explained well :)

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What you change at the router is your local IP .

Your pc's IP is the one which is assigned to you by your ISP . This is your real public IP and it cannot be changed by simple straightforward means .

Your router's config will not affect your public IP .

Public IP can only be changed by how you connect to the WWW.

Direct from your ISP to WWW . > Real world public IP

Use proxies, VPNs, tunnels etc > Mask your public IP .

When using such anonymizing services its your choice how do you want to deploy them .

Meaning system wide use or application level .

VPNs usually deploy their services at system level, meaning your public IP will be hidden across all platforms and services in the OS that will be connecting to the WWW.

Some VPNs might give an option of whitelisting or blacklisting one particular app.

Now how well the VPN hides your real IP, depends on the performance of the VPN .

Some public free VPNs do a good job at this and some do not ( ... hiding the IP in some apps and failing or revealing in others )

Paid VPNs stand good in this respect if one is seriously wanting to stay anonymous . Complete anonymity and no logs . Research for the options available before signing up.

The same holds for proxy servers . Whether you deploy them at app level ( ... say just for a browser ) or at system level !

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Another question to help me undertand about hiding torrents:

If I use ZenMate in Chrome it hides my Ip well. So if I download a torrent link from Chrome am I hidden??? Because ZenMate does not work on FireFox and I download a torrent link in FF, am I not hidden????

In Chrome it shows I have a different ip [great] but in Firefox it is my real ip. Is there a way I can tell if my torrent download is hidden with my VPN from ZenMate

or am I all screwed up with VPN's

Thanks for all your help

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Another question to help me undertand about hiding torrents:

If I use ZenMate in Chrome it hides my Ip well. So if I download a torrent link from Chrome am I hidden??? Because ZenMate does not work on FireFox and I download a torrent link in FF, am I not hidden????

In Chrome it shows I have a different ip [great] but in Firefox it is my real ip. Is there a way I can tell if my torrent download is hidden with my VPN from ZenMate

or am I all screwed up with VPN's

Thanks for all your help

Using 1 Vpn Service Will Be Enough For You Cause all your system traffic including browser traffic will be routed via vpn service

using zenmate inside chrome will add extra layer of protection along with vpn in the first place but most of the time won't be needed

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Another question to help me undertand about hiding torrents:

If I use ZenMate in Chrome it hides my Ip well. So if I download a torrent link from Chrome am I hidden??? Because ZenMate does not work on FireFox and I download a torrent link in FF, am I not hidden????

In Chrome it shows I have a different ip [great] but in Firefox it is my real ip. Is there a way I can tell if my torrent download is hidden with my VPN from ZenMate

or am I all screwed up with VPN's

Thanks for all your help

Using 1 Vpn Service Will Be Enough For You Cause all your system traffic including browser traffic will be routed via vpn service

using zenmate inside chrome will add extra layer of protection along with vpn in the first place but most of the time won't be needed

thank you again for all your help. I am only using ZenMate in Chrome.

To make it clearer for me.....I am a little slow here.....If I download a torrent with Chrome and ZenMate, is my ip hidden even though I am no longer using a browser just UTorrent

Thanks again

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thank you again for all your help. I am only using ZenMate in Chrome.

To make it clearer for me.....I am a little slow here.....If I download a torrent with Chrome and ZenMate, is my ip hidden even though I am no longer using a browser just UTorrent

Thanks again

Answer = No

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Another question to help me undertand about hiding torrents:

If I use ZenMate in Chrome it hides my Ip well. So if I download a torrent link from Chrome am I hidden??? Because ZenMate does not work on FireFox and I download a torrent link in FF, am I not hidden????

In Chrome it shows I have a different ip [great] but in Firefox it is my real ip. Is there a way I can tell if my torrent download is hidden with my VPN from ZenMate

or am I all screwed up with VPN's

Thanks for all your help

ZenMate helps you ONLY on Chrome, Using utorrent to download anything is showing your real identity as in the case of Firefox, If you want to anonymize torrents you should search and try complete VPN suites like Cyberghost :)

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The only true anonymity is not posting and uploading on the Internet.

Even then if you are only connected there is a chance for privacy breach, and p2p programs like uTorrent are ideal way for data leakage.

First level is always restricting your applications and OS modules from accessing the Internet.

What is the point of VPN if your applications generate and send unique signatures?
Every program performing license checks will have all IPs (real and fake) - you can fix this either by disallowing this behavior or by tunneling it trough proxy.

Some programs (Chrome, Security Programs, Skype, Flash, add-ons...) have few ways of identifying users, independently of anonymity by IP - for example only documented part of Chrome privacy.
Second example is a Skype: An Analysis of the Skype Peer-to-Peer Internet Telephony Protocol and Skype snoop agent.

Majority of mainstream software today have automatic updates feature, which on its own is a privacy breach.

And all this information collecting and sharing/selling is decriminalized with ToS and Privacy Policy.

Now think about illegal/unethical and undocumented ways of collecting your data

There are many many more levels, from hiding in a plane site, IP spoofing and encryption, layered encryption and virtualization, spoofing OS and browser to mach the most commonly used versions, removing add-ons which identify you, removing network card, disabling Camera and Mic to spoofing device ID, and so on, but since this is off topic I'll just stop here.

Majority applies on Linux as well, for example one should always avoid Ubuntu.

For general purpose you should use Fedora since it respects your privacy and provides you only with free and open source software, you can as well run proprietary programs but they are not provided by Fedora. Second reason is Fedora comes with enabled SELinux (Mandatory Access Control security) developed by NSA :). Medium to advanced linux users can go with Hardened Gentoo and similar projects.

Although a bit ironic, here is the NSA document which describes VPN, basic implementation, threats and few more - contains sufficient amount of information for you to understand basics about VPN.

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Thank you all for your help.......I hope it is ok to say thanks this way

1 year free in the givaway section on nsane for cyberghost (jump on board while you can great vpn/speeds).

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