Snowden document reveals extent of NSA & Canadian collaboration

[Matsuda]

The Communications Security Establishment Canada (CSEC), Canada's national cryptologic and foreign signals intelligence agency, has been heavily involved with spying initiatives with the United States' National Security Agency (NSA), CBC is reporting.

The source of the Canadian national broadcaster's claims is a top secret document (PDF) dated April 3, 2013, that is part of the cache released by Edward Snowden.

The document details the extent to which the NSA and CSEC have worked together in the "mutual interest in the defence of North America as a whole", which includes "the exchange of liaison officers and integrees, joint projects, shared activities, and a strong desire for closer collaboration in the area of cyberdefence". The document says that due to Canada's ability to produce "cryptographic devices", it is therefore a large consumer of American intelligence-gathering equipment.

Approximately 20 high-priority nations are targeted by the partnership, for which the two agencies exchange intelligence on "worldwide national and transnational targets". For its part, the CSEC has opened "covert sites at the request of NSA", provides resources for the collection, processing, and analysis of intelligence, and has increased funding for research and development projects.

The NSA says that it pays for research costs on shared projects, but none of the US$11 billion of funds in the Consolidated Cryptologic Program, an intelligence program that employs almost 35,000 employees from the NSA, as well as surveillance and code-breaking components of America's armed forces, are used.

It was already known that the US and Canada cooperate closely on intelligence matters, as both countries are signatories of the Five Eyes agreement, along with the UK, Australia, and New Zealand, but the details and implementation of how the agencies work together was not publicly known until the release of Snowden's documents.

Last week, it was revealed that Australia had been willing to share uncensored metadata on its citizens with other members of the Five Eyes.

The document that showed the Australian Signals Directorate's willingness to hand over such metadata also showed that CSEC was able to make use of "unselected" metadata, but that distribution of bulk, unselected metadata from CSEC with other Five Eyes parties could not be shared. This was because of the need to ensure that the identities of Canadians and people in Canada were removed; however, this clause is being re-examined.

The document obtained by CBC shows that the relationship between the American and Canadian intelligence agencies is one that will be built on in the future.

"NSA has a close, cooperative relationship with CSEC that both sides would like to see expanded and strengthened."




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[Ambrocious]

Next up on the disclosure movement, people are gonna find out that most civilized countries already knew about this spying and have been in some part, collaborating and profiting off of it. It is likely that if not only the Snowden leaks come all out in thier intirety, but if other whistle blowers step forward en mass, we might have a chance at showing the world just how bad things really are so that we can face the music and deal with it. Too many freaking secrets...it really does boggle my mind.

[dMog]

has been going on since man lived in small huts and villages... get over it..yes it is wrong but this how countries behave and it as this article says it ain't just one single country doing the bad stuff all are...every single one of them...

[212eta]

USA + UK + Canada + Australia + New Zealand = ECHELON

[flitox]

so DMog, that mean i can spy on that hot girl living next door and get away with it if i say: "don't worry, it's not that bad. and after all man have act such since he lives in huts & villages"

really????

slavery have existed for thousand of years, nowadays it's pretty rare occurence. yet back then, the people profiting from it would have said exactly what you just wrote.

so i'm affraid you (and most importantly them) are the one to grow up on that topic.

[Matsuda]

@dMog is funny, for all others countries involved with NSA, he has arguments, criticism. but when is related for your country, he try to deflect responsibility​.

But this was expected.

Edited December 11, 2013 by Matsuda

[SnakeMasteR]

Government is always right, mkay? :troll:

[janedoe]

but if other whistle blowers step forward en mass, we might have a chance at showing the world just how bad things really are so that we can face the music and deal with it

We the people being spied upon are already facing the music, and how would we deal with it? Perhaps I'm being a wee bit cynical, but do you honestly think even if other whistle-blowers reveal secrets things are going to change? As if suddenly the NSA and its other international counterparts are just going to stop and say "sorry, we'll not do it again"?

[Ambrocious]

but if other whistle blowers step forward en mass, we might have a chance at showing the world just how bad things really are so that we can face the music and deal with it

We the people being spied upon are already facing the music, and how would we deal with it? Perhaps I'm being a wee bit cynical, but do you honestly think even if other whistle-blowers reveal secrets things are going to change? As if suddenly the NSA and its other international counterparts are just going to stop and say "sorry, we'll not do it again"?

Actually yes because it's illegal, all of this spying. If we find out about all of the ways we are being spied on and targeted, we can learn to defend against the attacks. You act like knowing your enemy is of no value. The people, not the governments, we need to stand up and let them know it's not OK. If enough people know about it and stand up for each other, you would be surprised what a marching crowd of 10 million people can accomplish. I have always endorsed peaceful resistance and I still do.

We have to understand that without us, our governments have no power. We give them soldiers, nurses, pilots, teachers, construction workers, architects, scientists and every other profession to speak of and we willingly conform to their system which is screwed up. We have the talent that makes up the power structure, without us, they would be powerless. Have heart, we all have great potential to make good change on this planet, we just have to decide that we care enough to avoid their schemes and other attacks or invasive spying measures by KNOWING what they are and how they work.

Scientists call it "Reverse Engineering" and yes, it can be done to tyranny by studying history. That is why I always encourage people to watch documentaries like ENDGAME: Blueprint for Global Enslavement, as it details how the world elite came to power, how they are controlling governments, corporations, education, military, medicine, ecclesiastical, and even mainstream media. They engage in a more long term slow march into chaos and tyranny which they have discovered people accept and adapt to without any real care in the world (Not me!). You can watch it on YouTube in full if you got the time and if it gets you curious, I can offer you more information that will surely shine some light on solutions.

Being informed of what is happening behind the scenes is very important since there are a million different distractions that we give ourselves to waste time and we call it life. I listen to the Alex Jones show because the topics he covers are important for a healthy life. In the USA for sure, the amount of genetically modified foods wreak havoc on people and our ability to think clearly and feel good in general. Explore Infowars if you want to and see for yourself what YOU think. We are all responsible for creating a better world to live in; I'm stepping up to try my best.

Edited December 13, 2013 by Ambrocious

[janedoe]

Actually yes because it's illegal, all of this spying. If we find out about all of the ways we are being spied on and targeted, we can learn to defend against the attacks.

So now that you know at least some of the ways the NSA spies en masse on people, how are you defending yourself? It would be foolish to think that just because you're aware of what they're up to you are also simultaneously capable of stopping their future data collection efforts. More knowledge is always good, but it doesn't automatically mean we can prevent what's happening (short of cutting ourselves off and living in a bubble). The only thing we can do (and here I agree with you) is to protest against our own elected officials, hoping that one day we might have people in charge who will put an end to this.

[dMog]

so DMog, that mean i can spy on that hot girl living next door and get away with it if i say: "don't worry, it's not that bad. and after all man have act such since he lives in huts & villages"

really????

slavery have existed for thousand of years, nowadays it's pretty rare occurence. yet back then, the people profiting from it would have said exactly what you just wrote.

so i'm affraid you (and most importantly them) are the one to grow up on that topic.

where in what i said do i try to deflect what canada did in this... all i said was ALL countries do this not just the USA,,even the country you live in does it..the nsa is just too stupid about it and do not even care they have been caught with their pants down

Edited December 13, 2013 by dMog

[flitox]

so DMog, that mean i can spy on that hot girl living next door and get away with it if i say: "don't worry, it's not that bad. and after all man have act such since he lives in huts & villages"

really????

slavery have existed for thousand of years, nowadays it's pretty rare occurence. yet back then, the people profiting from it would have said exactly what you just wrote.

so i'm affraid you (and most importantly them) are the one to grow up on that topic.

where in what i said do i try to deflect what canada did in this... all i said was ALL countries do this not just the USA,,even the country you live in does it..the nsa is just too stupid about it and do not even care they have been caught with their pants down

:blink:

where do i say that you said you tried to deflect what canada did in this???

you only said that all country do this and that won't change.

i then replied that it can be change and took slavery as example.