Reefa Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 In recent days thousands of Internet users have received letters demanding 250 euros to settle online copyright infringement allegations. What is particularly strange about this case, however, is that the targets are all said to be users of RedTube, a site that streams video in a way not dissimilar to YouTube. But as panicking users unintentionally DDoS a lawfirm’s website while looking for advice, the mysterious plot continues to thicken.In countries across Europe and in the United States, copyright holders have targeted hundreds of thousands of Internet users said to have shared their content online without permission.Often referred to as copyright trolls, these companies place themselves in file-sharing networks and masquerade as regular users, but instead they’re collecting evidence of infringement. This evidence is then used to obtain the identities of alleged file-sharers in order to obtain cash settlements from them. It’s a messy and controversial game.One of the hardest troll-hit countries is Germany but in the last few days came a surprise to shock even the most experienced lawyers in the field. Seemingly out of nowhere, many thousands of Internet users received letters from German lawfirm U & C apparently acting on behalf of a Swiss company called The Archive AG.Up to a point their claims appear to be fairly standard stuff, unsurprisingly involving adult content with titles including Dream Trip, Hot Stories, Amanda’s Secrets, Miriam’s Adventures and Glamour Showgirls. For the user’s apparent transgressions The Archive AG asks for a payment of 149.50 euros for lawyer fees, 15.50 euros in damages and sundry other costs amounting to 250 euros. Some individuals are reporting receiving multiple demands.However, the real shocker becomes apparent when one discovers where the alleged infringements are said to have taken place. Not a torrent site or other venue where user IP addresses are publicly available but on streaming video site RedTube, the 105th most popular site in the world. While RedTube specializes in adult content, its functionality is not dissimilar to that of YouTube.The scale of this settlement operation becomes apparent when reading reports from Wilde Beuger Solmecke, a law firm that specializes in defending Internet users from the threats of copyright trolls.“We assume that over 10,000 warning letters have been sent by the firm U + C,” the lawfirm explain, adding that at least 1,000 individuals had already called their offices for advice.So how did the lawfirm acquire the identities of so many individuals? That question has become the subject of many theories, from IP address-grabbing adverts to malware, to a huge lawsuit forcing RedTube to comply.That last theory was being pursued yesterday by German publication Die Welt, who ran a report claiming that the Cologne Regional Court had been involved in a request to hand over the data of individuals who had simply viewed the videos in question. One theory is that the Court may have mistaken RedTube for some kind of P2P file-sharing network where infringers also upload.But even that theory was being questioned by RedTube themselves last evening. Speaking with XBiz, RedTube denied that anything had been handed over.“Our security measures and user privacy has always been a top priority for RedTube,” said RedTube Vice President Alex Taylor.“RedTube pursues stringent privacy requirements and maintains the highest industry standards of privacy protection to secure not only their assets and properties, but to provide comprehensive protection of their customers’ data when visiting a RedTube-owned site.”But while that statement says a lot about the site’s privacy policy, it says little to nothing about what happens when the site is presented with a court order. Not complying with a request from a court with jurisdiction over RedTube or perhaps its technology partners trumps the company’s privacy policy all day long.In any event, lawyer Christian Solmecke feels that if the claims are indeed against users that have merely streamed content, no offense has been committed.“From our perspective, users have committed no crime here. Unlike the case involving [illegal streaming portal] Kino.to, the films published on RedTube are not manifestly unlawful (in the sense of copyright),” Solmecke said.“Even so, when watching the films on your own computer this is a legal private copy in accordance with copyright law. Add to that the only copy ever made here is a few seconds of buffering in volatile buffer memory of the computer. Such copies are in my opinion in accordance with copyright law.”Officials at RedTube-owner MindGeek say that an “in-depth investigation” is now underway into the “serious allegations that have surfaced in the media recently.” Given the sheer numbers of cash settlements that have been sent out and the nature of the alleged offenses, this matter is certainly not over yet.If this does indeed turn out to be a cut and dried case against Internet users who have merely viewed streaming content, the fear is that while this affects RedTube users today it could easily affect YouTube viewers tomorrow. Definitely one to watch.Source:http://torrentfreak.com/panic-as-thousands-receive-fines-for-streaming-redtube-videos-131210/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airstream_Bill Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 That is a good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambrocious Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 They are getting fined for watching porn? Fappers Club....beware! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefa Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 They are getting fined for watching porn? Fappers Club....beware!Exactly my thoughts :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambrocious Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 On a more serious note though...if every single person who got these letters refuse to pay and came together in protest, they might not have to pay it. There is power in numbers. What the so called "legal" offices of copyright are doing now is clearly crossing a line...it's a fine line indeed. How much more bad can this world get if us poor nerds can't find a relief valve to the ever so intricit problem of NOT having a "special someone" to sleep with us at night. Porn, as bad as it can be, if you include addictions and unrealistic sexual expectaions, is a somewhat healthy way to let out frustration.Here is the sad part of this: because it's a porn website, many people obviously view porn in secrecy because it is something they consider...private and slightly embarasing. Because people would feel weird to come together and protest this, justice might not be on the horizon for many sexually frustrated people. I'm not endorsing porn or anything but I think that it is a private matter and being fined for simply watching it...I can't imagine this can be OK with the people who got these letters. I hope they can get off the hook from this clearly insane fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanjoa Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 They are getting fined for watching porn? Fappers Club....beware!:Lmao: :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truemate Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 month back this site was targetted by some moron hackers..and now this....enemey of sex :ermm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janedoe Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 On a more serious note though...if every single person who got these letters refuse to pay and came together in protest, they might not have to pay it. There is power in numbers.Don't worry, no-one's going to have to pay a cent (unless they feel unduly afraid and voluntarily do so). If it was illegal simply to watch a streaming video, you know which would be the next site to get shut down? YouTube. There are millions (or perhaps billions) of videos on YouTube not posted by the copyright owners (I would even say probably 75% or more of the site), and no-one sitting at home watching them is getting threatened or sued or whatever. This is just a scam to extort money out of gullible people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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