Matsuda Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) This week, reports from a number of media outlets stated that Microsoft had quietly ended retail sales of Windows 7, and that sales of PCs with Windows 7 installed would end next year. However, since those reports have been posted, the Microsoft web page cited as the main source of those stories has been updated, and throws the current retail sales life of Windows 7 into unknown territory.Originally, the Windows lifecycle fact sheet page showed that Windows 7 retail sales ended on October 30th, and that sales of PCs with Windows 7 pre-installed would end on October 30, 2014. Both ZDNet and Computerworld reported on this fact, based on information from that page. Indeed, a cached version of the fact sheet shows that those reports were correct at the time.However, since those stories were posted, Microsoft has quietly changed the Windows lifecycle page. The deadlines for both retail sales and the sales of Windows 7 PCs are now listed as "To be determined." In other words, Microsoft currently has no set date when retail stores and OEMs can stop selling the OS.We have emailed Microsoft to see if they wish to comment on why they have changed the dates.One possible reason is that Windows 7 is still highly popular, according to the latest information from Net Applications, and many businesses may still opt to upgrade to it from Windows XP; Microsoft will end support for the 12 year old OS four months from today on April 8th, 2014.Update: “We have yet to determine the end of sales date for PCs with Windows 7 preinstalled,” a Microsoft spokesperson told TNW. “The October 30, 2014 date that posted to the Windows Lifecycle page globally last week was done so in error. We have since updated the website to note the correct information; however, some non-English language pages may take longer to revert to correctly reflect that the end of sales date is ‘to be determined.”The company has now clarified it is confirming the “Retail software end of sales” date and retracting the “End of sales for PCs with Windows preinstalled” date.“We apologize for any confusion this may have caused our customers,” the spokesperson continued in the company’s statement to TNW. “We’ll have more details to share about the Windows 7 lifecycle once they become available. Additionally, we are confirming that the Retail software end of sales date for Windows 7 did happen on October 30, 2013.”In short, Windows 7 retail sales have indeed ended. PCs with Windows 7 on them, however, will continue to be available until Microsoft sets an end of sales date.Source & Source-2 Edited December 9, 2013 by Matsuda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janedoe Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 If they extend the retail sales period beyond 5 years I see no problem with it, but if they extend the support period for Win7 like they did with XP they might as well just admit defeat and get out of the OS business altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurch234 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 they might as well just admit defeat and get out of the OS business altogetherAt least scrapping Windows 8 would be a step in the right direction and put all their resources on Windows 9... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janedoe Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 At least scrapping Windows 8 would be a step in the right direction and put all their resources on Windows 9...Windows 9 will just be an evolution of Windows 8. All I can say is, I don't see them backtracking with regards to the Metro UI. It's in all their products now and is not going away anywhere soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 sadly windows 9 will probably be just as bad as 8 was. i dont see them really changing anything because then they almost admit they screwed up which they did. i still cant stand 8.1 but eventually ill have to use it or jump to 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janedoe Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) i still cant stand 8.1 but eventually ill have to use it or jump to 9.I'm guessing the Metro UI is what annoys you the most. If you are already using Win8.x then a free or paid app to revert to the classic start menu is just the ticket. That way you will never see the start screen or any of the Metro apps if you want, plus you can enjoy the improvements Win8.x has made over Win7. I for one appreciate the hybrid boot, the invaluable multi-monitor support and better scaling (although that has a long way to go before it is perfect). If you're not already using it and none of these are important to you, stick with Win7. Edited December 9, 2013 by janedoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nIGHT Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Wind0ws 8/8.1 has a lot of good things in it without the metro stuff, but is also still a half baked OS. It would be appealing if they could add a backward feature but I don't think they will include that. A new wind0ws 9 should be at least the refined wind0ws 8/8.1. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEEL Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 If they extend the retail sales period beyond 5 years I see no problem with it, but if they extend the support period for Win7 like they did with XP they might as well just admit defeat and get out of the OS business altogether. :thumbsup: An what I saw from Win9; it looks like; that they are making a Small turn-around to old X.P. :lol: ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janedoe Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 :thumbsup: An what I saw from Win9; it looks like; that they are making a Small turn-around to old X.P. :lol: ;)I haven't seen any leaks of early builds of Win9 yet. Can you link me to what you've seen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezza Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 :thumbsup: An what I saw from Win9; it looks like; that they are making a Small turn-around to old X.P. :lol: ;)I haven't seen any leaks of early builds of Win9 yet. Can you link me to what you've seen?I think he has seen deviant art concept images ;) , there are no leaks, only from fake photoshoppers :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janedoe Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I think he has seen deviant art concept images ;) , there are no leaks, only from fake photoshoppers :DYes, but just thought I'd ask him in case he has some insider info instead of relying on some die-hard XP fan's desperate wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezza Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) I think he has seen deviant art concept images ;) , there are no leaks, only from fake photoshoppers :D instead of relying on some die-hard XP fan's desperate wish. :lmao: Edited December 9, 2013 by tezza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matsuda Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 Article updated. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) :thumbsup: An what I saw from Win9; it looks like; that they are making a Small turn-around to old X.P. :lol: ;)I haven't seen any leaks of early builds of Win9 yet. Can you link me to what you've seen?I think he has seen deviant art concept images ;) , there are no leaks, only from fake photoshoppers :Dhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-9-and-Windows-10-Details-Leaked-378333.shtmlhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-9-Coming-in-November-2014-Chinese-Sources-Claim-337940.shtml Edited December 9, 2013 by knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezza Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-9-and-Windows-10-Details-Leaked-378333.shtmlhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-9-Coming-in-November-2014-Chinese-Sources-Claim-337940.shtml Just images or concepts, and Softpedia certainly will not be the place that leaks the first pictures, that i can guarantee ;) Edited December 9, 2013 by tezza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janedoe Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Just images or concepts, and Softpedia certainly will not be the place that leaks the first pictures, that i can guarantee ;)I agree, Softpedia's not some great source.http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-9-Coming-in-November-2014-Chinese-Sources-Claim-337940.shtmlhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-9-and-Windows-10-Details-Leaked-378333.shtmlThose articles contain rumors and are downright incorrect in some instances. For example, the second one states:As we’ve already told you, Windows 9 is expected to bring a wide array of improvements to the current Windows platform, including better touch support and UI changes.In addition, it is very likely to pack the full version of Internet Explorer 11, the upgraded Microsoft browser that should see daylight in Windows Blue in the form of a beta version.Well guess what, WinBlue i.e. Win8.1 already has IE11 final in it.I think he has seen deviant art concept images ;) , there are no leaks, only from fake photoshoppers :DYes, but just thought I'd ask him in case he has some insider info instead of relying on some die-hard XP fan's desperate wish.Now for the bombshell. I'm sure STEEL was referring to DA concepts, but according to Paul Thurrott, the next wave of Windows releases codenamed Threshold (Win8.2?) might actually bring back the start menu as an option, and also allow Modern apps to run windowed! :omg: I am shocked! It's not confirmed but if this happens it will be a huge admission of defeat from Microsoft and also in one shot will kill all start menu replacement apps and also apps such as ModernMix, RetroUI etc. On the plus side it should finally stop people whining endlessly about the start screen and Metro and make them far more receptive to Win8.x (I mean, given the choice why wouldn't you move to Win8.x at that point as compared to Win7?) Edited December 10, 2013 by janedoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasi Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 microsoft have to extend it because many users intrested in windows 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nIGHT Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 @janedoeI read somewhere, if I'm not mistaken, that wind0ws 9 beta will be released on January next year but got delayed so they moved it again.If we're lucky we can see it in less than two months from now. A lot of online games won't run in wind0ws 8/8.1, maybe the biggest reason why the transition is unacceptable to most gamers. After reading the news about the xbox one demo that ran on windows 7, I thought that gives us a lot of perspective about how microsoft really thinks of 8/8.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janedoe Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) microsoft have to extend it because many users intrested in windows 7This is the corrected page:As you can see the end of retail sales date has not been changed and has already passed. End of OEM preinstalled versions is not known yet. Also, if the Win8.2 start menu rumors are true then there is no reason for people not to move to it instead of Win7. This will ensure that Win7 doesn't end up as the next XP.@janedoeI read somewhere, if I'm not mistaken, that wind0ws 9 beta will be released on January next year but got delayed so they moved it again. If we're lucky we can see it in less than two months from now.If Threshold refers to Win8.2, then there's no chance of a Win9 beta in Jan 2014, less than 2 months from now. Edited December 10, 2013 by janedoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nIGHT Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Threshold = Win 8.2? orThreshold = Win 9? :think: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezza Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Threshold = Win 8.2? orThreshold = Win 9? :think:Threshold = Win9Win 8.2 / Windows 8.1 Update 1 ? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nIGHT Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Threshold = Win 8.2? orThreshold = Win 9? :think:Threshold = Win9Win 8.2 / Windows 8.1 Update 1 ? :P :notworthy: Oh, what will I do without you tezza. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janedoe Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Is it confirmed that Threshold is Win9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezza Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Is it confirmed that Threshold is Win9? Threshold is obviously at the present only the rumoured name, but it's the one that will be applied by evey article i should imagine as MS ain't gonna comment.(We will know for sure when famous Chinese,Polish and Russian websites leak :D ) Edited December 10, 2013 by tezza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janedoe Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) I believe that Threshold will be Win8.2, but let's wait and watch because so far all this is just rumor. Edited December 10, 2013 by janedoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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