Matsuda Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Chinese officials have asked Microsoft to extend Windows XP support and have even met with some Redmond officials to discuss plans to keep the aging operating system alive in the country.Microsoft has until now refused to provide any details on China’s request, but the software giant has now decided to break the silence and talk publicly about it.In just a few words, Microsoft has rejected China’s proposal in a pretty decent manner, saying that just like everyone else, local users and authorities need to make the move to newer software too. In a statement issued for ZDNet, a Microsoft spokesperson said that Redmond appreciates China’s efforts to adopt genuine operating system, but the migration to modern operating systems must continue because they “better protect against security threats and are designed for modern work and life usage scenarios.”The bad thing is that not even China managed to convince Microsoft to extend support for Windows XP, so Redmond is really serious about it this time. It turns out that Windows XP’s time has indeed passed.Read Microsoft’s statement in full below and drop us a line in the comment box after the jump:“Microsoft works in partnership with industry and government in China to help create an environment that encourages entrepreneurship, creativity and innovation through the protection of intellectual property, as well as assisting in software legalization efforts in line with the nation’s policy priorities. We have seen great improvement in the adoption of genuine operating systems, productivity software and apps, as well as movement to cloud services, as a result of these efforts and we look forward to continued progress. Microsoft is committed to working with end-users, businesses and governments in China to migrate their systems to a modern OS that better protects against security threats and is designed for modern work and life usage scenarios."Every Windows product has a lifecycle, which begins when it is released and ends when it is no longer supported. For Windows XP, this lasted more than a decade. Customers will still be able to use Windows XP, but as a reminder, after April 8, 2014, Windows XP users will no longer receive new security updates, non-security hotfixes, free or paid assisted support options, or online technical content updates from Microsoft.We are very glad to see a great number of customers in China and all over the world obtaining tangible benefits of modernizing their IT investments from dramatically enhanced security, broad device choice to meet the needs of a mobile workforce, higher user productivity, and lower total cost of ownership by future-proofing their IT investments through deploying Windows 8.”Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banned Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 "higher user productivity"LOL, idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasi Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 shit they r strong at the windows xp end date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamkutopolowk Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 China :troll: :rofl: :rofl: :tooth: :rant: :stupid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambrocious Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I was wrong...I figured Microsoft would have bowed down to China...boy was I wrong. This gives me a fresh perspective on Microsoft as to what it is becoming; militant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASIO Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 lol Microsoft sent a poop for china :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janedoe Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I was wrong...I figured Microsoft would have bowed down to China...boy was I wrong. This gives me a fresh perspective on Microsoft as to what it is becoming; militant.I would term it "sensible" instead. You make an exception for one and next thing you know everyone's banging at your door asking for the same. Also, a request like this would have been far more credible if a country other than China had made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfeetstink Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 ^^ .. sounds familiar, as in our Nation's discussion on the ACA, who benefits, who's exempted and what our Commissardemands upon His people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightDistortions Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 If China wants to keep XP that bad instead of pleading with Microsoft maybe they could update XP themselves. I don't know much about coding but if hackers can exploit weaknesses in an OS, programmers can patch it up themselves. Either that or they could move to Linux. I have also seen a Windows 95 machine with a working SSD. You just need to know how to code and how the OS/hardware is programmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalju Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 If China wants to keep XP that bad instead of pleading with Microsoft maybe they could update XP themselves. I don't know much about coding but if hackers can exploit weaknesses in an OS, programmers can patch it up themselves. Either that or they could move to Linux. I have also seen a Windows 95 machine with a working SSD. You just need to know how to code and how the OS/hardware is programmed. Wait, or maybe you do not think that the Chinese do not know, or what? Or who actually makes Windows? Why are all Windows versions always available at first in english and chinese languages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazigh Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I don't know why some people are "looling" and not respecting China?! some talking about hacking.. and some about piracy...like this is related only to them!, XP still the most used in a lot of countries (Especially "3rd World") because a lot of people have poor hardware... so unable to install windows 7 or 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janedoe Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 ^^ .. sounds familiar, as in our Nation's discussion on the ACA, who benefits, who's exempted and what our Commissar demands upon His people.Yeah, I can see how parallels could be drawn but this is not the right place to go into the nitty-gritties of the ACA and the ramifications it might have on us all.I don't know why some people are "looling" and not respecting China?! some talking about hacking.. and some about piracy...like this is related only to them!, XP still the most used in a lot of countries (Especially "3rd World") because a lot of people have poor hardware... so unable to install windows 7 or 8I don't see any other instances of countries with high piracy rates that have asked Microsoft to extend XP support further. If you can inform us of any I can assure you people will laugh at them equally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazigh Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 ^^ .. sounds familiar, as in our Nation's discussion on the ACA, who benefits, who's exempted and what our Commissar demands upon His people.Yeah, I can see how parallels could be drawn but this is not the right place to go into the nitty-gritties of the ACA and the ramifications it might have on us all.I don't know why some people are "looling" and not respecting China?! some talking about hacking.. and some about piracy...like this is related only to them!, XP still the most used in a lot of countries (Especially "3rd World") because a lot of people have poor hardware... so unable to install windows 7 or 8I don't see any other instances of countries with high piracy rates that have asked Microsoft to extend XP support further. If you can inform us of any I can assure you people will laugh at them equally.If there is no other country asking MS... this doesn't means that others don't want to be extended too, China just made it public and don't forget they are a big nation and a big market, and for piracy 7 is just like XP, so what's the point to introduce "piracy" to the subject?!!, really strange for me, As I said it's a matter of hardware specification, you maybe say.. Linux... but Linux is still not well supported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satviewer2000 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I have two "business" grade HP all-in-one devices (with legal sized scanner beds) which do not even have Win7 drivers, let alone Win8 drivers, and HP has said they will never upgrade their drivers for the older all-in-ones. So I can either upgrade to Win7/8 and spend over $2000 to get 2 new legal sized all-in-one devices, or keep using XP. Since they still work perfectly with XP for what I need, why should I upgrade just for the sake of upgrading?Point being, it's not just about upgrading the operating system, but for those of us who actually have to work for a living, there are many other costs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janedoe Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 If there is no other country asking MS... this doesn't means that others don't want to be extended tooLike I said, other countries with similar rates of piracy might want XP support to be extended too, but unless we know about them how can we react? So far the only country doing this is China, so it is but natural that all reactions pertain to China too.China just made it public and don't forget they are a big nation and a big market, and for piracy 7 is just like XP, so what's the point to introduce "piracy" to the subject?!!The fact that China happens to be a huge market is part of the problem, since it is also notorious for extremely high piracy levels. So that means given the market size those high piracy levels translate into a very large number of pirated copies. In comparison another smaller country may have corresponding levels of piracy but the numbers are bound to be much less. People here (and on most other forums) are naturally finding it ironic that a country where piracy is so prevalent would actually request the company that is affected so badly to continue providing free support to the pirates! No doubt China has genuine XP users too, but since they're by all accounts heavily outnumbered the irony of this request is evident.you maybe say.. Linux... but Linux is still not well supportedSays who? I'm pretty sure 99% of the hardware that is currently running XP will have no problems running Linux. If the remaining 1% incompatible hardware is an issue, China obviously has enough clever people who can code the necessary Linux drivers. One advantage of this of course is that if the code modifications are shared with everyone then users of those hardware devices everywhere will benefit when it comes to Linux. That is the beauty of open source.BTW, I happened to mention Red Flag Linux in a previous related thread. Can you tell me what was the grand purpose behind launching it and what it's meant for? It's supposedly been in active development in China longer than XP has been available and far longer than XP took to be developed (ample time to have been perfected for its purpose), and comes with a UI and other tools deliberately designed to mimic XP in order to make the transition easier. Why is the Chinese government not strictly mandating that all govt. PCs use this instead of a perhaps pirated but definitely soon to be unsupported OS?So I can either upgrade to Win7/8 and spend over $2000 to get 2 new legal sized all-in-one devices, or keep using XP. Since they still work perfectly with XP for what I need, why should I upgrade just for the sake of upgrading?You need not and indeed no-one's holding a gun to your head after April 8 and forcing you to upgrade. We've discussed this in multiple threads already. Equally, it makes no business sense for Microsoft to keep providing free support for XP indefinitely, or in your case to assume responsibility for HP's refusal to provide updated drivers (that's solely HP's business decision). That's why they finally decided that enough is enough and have refused China's request to yet again extend support for XP, which is what this thread's all about. I'm not ruling out that China might yet place political pressure and Microsoft might cave, but if they do IMO it will be a serious mistake and one they'll regret for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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