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Microsoft Introduces New Desktop Feature in Windows 8.1 RTM!

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Back in June, Microsoft officially rolled out Windows 8.1 Preview with an option to boot directly to desktop and skip the Start screen, telling everyone that this is actually proof that it’s really listening to consumer feedback.
In Windows 8.1 RTM, the company further improved this new feature to also let users go back to desktop when closing all apps on the screen.
As McAkins Online notes, the new option can be easily enabled by right-clicking the Taskbar, hitting “Properties” and opening the “Navigation” tab.
Microsoft hasn’t yet publicly announced this feature, but given the fact that it improves the overall experience on the desktop, expect the company to describe all its benefits during the launch event scheduled to take place on October 18.
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Wow.... thousands of features the users have requested Microsoft to bring back... like Aero, Start MENU, more consistent user interface and ability to select either Modern/Metro for touch-enabled devices or standard desktop for keyboard+mice combinations.

Microsoft indeed listens to his users and adds the requested features !

Oh.... wait...

//Sarcasm off

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ROFL... :lmao:

Win8 is still only TRASH or for kids...

8 isn't trash, the forced Metro interface is. Not the entire OS.

Agreed.

The Core OS is swift and light on resources, the blind Politics of MS and forcing a global template on non-touch Interfaces is here the Root Cause.

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ROFL... :lmao:

Win8 is still only TRASH or for kids...

No, that is the ignorant, Ill informed sheep view.

I like both Win7 and Win8. Install Start8 on Win8 and do a few tweaks here and there and Win8 is a much better OS for many reasons.

Stick with Windows 3.1 and your Nokia 3310 and you should be fine.

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ROFL... :lmao:

Win8 is still only TRASH or for kids...

No, that is the ignorant, Ill informed sheep view.

I like both Win7 and Win8. Install Start8 on Win8 and do a few tweaks here and there and Win8 is a much better OS for many reasons.

Stick with Windows 3.1 and your Nokia 3310 and you should be fine.

But why should you have to tweak it? Linux i can understand as that is for free, but your paying for a product where you have to change it around to make it more suitable. It shouldn't be too hard for MS to add an option to have a start menu or to restore the aero effects, they just don't want to. That's like buying a car with manual transmission and wanting to change it to automatic. Why not just get an automatic instead? Why spend $100 or more on a new OS just for security and features your not going to use?

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ROFL... :lmao:

Win8 is still only TRASH or for kids...

8 isn't trash, the forced Metro interface is. Not the entire OS.

Agreed.

The Core OS is swift and light on resources, the blind Politics of MS and forcing a global template on non-touch Interfaces is here the Root Cause.

A light OS for light hardware,,, :sneaky:

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ROFL... :lmao:

Win8 is still only TRASH or for kids...

No, that is the ignorant, Ill informed sheep view.

I like both Win7 and Win8. Install Start8 on Win8 and do a few tweaks here and there and Win8 is a much better OS for many reasons.

Stick with Windows 3.1 and your Nokia 3310 and you should be fine.

But why should you have to tweak it? Linux i can understand as that is for free, but your paying for a product where you have to change it around to make it more suitable. It shouldn't be too hard for MS to add an option to have a start menu or to restore the aero effects, they just don't want to. That's like buying a car with manual transmission and wanting to change it to automatic. Why not just get an automatic instead? Why spend $100 or more on a new OS just for security and features your not going to use?

Install StartIsBack, done.

It's not like disabling,removing and tweaking Windows is a new thing. IE, Media Player, Movie Maker, Outlook, Media Center, UAC all have to go/disable for me anyway. It's just 1 more thing on the list, no big deal.

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Windows 8.1 as for me the best one operating system which also uses less resources but yet only have some hardware compatibility issues as it is not yet released to public finally. I just suggest think Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 two different operating systems as windows 8.1 is far better than windows 8 and if you leave the metro apps then it is even better than windows 7.

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Windows 8.1 as for me the best one operating system which also uses less resources but yet only have some hardware compatibility issues as it is not yet released to public finally. I just suggest think Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 two different operating systems as windows 8.1 is far better than windows 8 and if you leave the metro apps then it is even better than windows 7.

Care to explain in exactly what is the 8.1 sooo superb compared to 8 ? What ? Resizable Start Screen Items ? More Color choices ? Wheeee.... I AM blown away, really.

//Sarcasm off...

Remove the ModernUI crap improvements which don't interest me (remember - I am a desktop user) and you get ... what exatly ?

Nothing...nada...nic...nichts...

Just a version upgrade in the numbers and more compatibility problems compared to 8 (I am using 7, 8 and 8.1 so I AM able to compare it).

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ROFL... :lmao:

Win8 is still only TRASH or for kids...

No, that is the ignorant, Ill informed sheep view.

I like both Win7 and Win8. Install Start8 on Win8 and do a few tweaks here and there and Win8 is a much better OS for many reasons.

Stick with Windows 3.1 and your Nokia 3310 and you should be fine.

But why should you have to tweak it? Linux i can understand as that is for free, but your paying for a product where you have to change it around to make it more suitable. It shouldn't be too hard for MS to add an option to have a start menu or to restore the aero effects, they just don't want to. That's like buying a car with manual transmission and wanting to change it to automatic. Why not just get an automatic instead? Why spend £62 (£62 ($100)) or more on a new OS just for security and features your not going to use?

Its not about "having to" its about I WANT to. Who in their right mind apart from n00bs just uses default OS settings?? No matter what OS you get you should tweak it to your own preferences. Win8 is no different. I have been tweking OS's to suit my own personal preferences since Amiga days and Windows 8 is no different.

And who are you to say that I or any other person wont be using any of the new features or security?

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Install StartIsBack, done.

It's not like disabling,removing and tweaking Windows is a new thing. IE, Media Player, Movie Maker, Outlook, Media Center, UAC all have to go/disable for me anyway. It's just 1 more thing on the list, no big deal.

Except for those who want to do system updates and install antivirus before looking for start menu alternatives you would then have to try to do everything in the new way. It can be a tedious task when really all you really need to do is to install 7, update it, install A/V and whatever programs and your good to go. I never bother to tweak the system until later and with W8 that's another story.

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Its not about "having to" its about I WANT to. Who in their right mind apart from n00bs just uses default OS settings?? No matter what OS you get you should tweak it to your own preferences. Win8 is no different. I have been tweking OS's to suit my own personal preferences since Amiga days and Windows 8 is no different.

And who are you to say that I or any other person wont be using any of the new features or security?

You shouldn't have to tweak it upon first usage, i don't tweak everything right away upon re-installation or using a backup copy. You should be able to dive right in and get a few things done. Recently with W7 all i did was do updates, install A/V and whatever programs i need to use. Of course if you have the time to tweak every little thing, more power to you but if i need a new OS i just need it to be usable, not more things needed to do in order to get it to be usable. And it is very annoying to use the start screen when having to do system updates/and or drivers then get A/V. Those are the 2 things you should be doing first anyway before installing anything else and it's probably just me being picky but that's how i do things and W8 is a no go for me because it has no start menu built in. If others want to deal with it in another way whatever then. If i really did have the time to deal with all of that then i would most likely be using Linux instead of Windows.

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Its not about "having to" its about I WANT to. Who in their right mind apart from n00bs just uses default OS settings?? No matter what OS you get you should tweak it to your own preferences. Win8 is no different. I have been tweking OS's to suit my own personal preferences since Amiga days and Windows 8 is no different.

And who are you to say that I or any other person wont be using any of the new features or security?

You shouldn't have to tweak it upon first usage, i don't tweak everything right away upon re-installation or using a backup copy. You should be able to dive right in and get a few things done. Recently with W7 all i did was do updates, install A/V and whatever programs i need to use. Of course if you have the time to tweak every little thing, more power to you but if i need a new OS i just need it to be usable, not more things needed to do in order to get it to be usable. And it is very annoying to use the start screen when having to do system updates/and or drivers then get A/V. Those are the 2 things you should be doing first anyway before installing anything else and it's probably just me being picky but that's how i do things and W8 is a no go for me because it has no start menu built in. If others want to deal with it in another way whatever then. If i really did have the time to deal with all of that then i would most likely be using Linux instead of Windows.

..AGAIN its not about HAVING to its about WANTING TO!!!!!

Whenever I install a piece of software whether it be an app or an entire OS I check settings/preferences and "tweak" it to MY needs. Yes I could just leave every single app I use as default but that would just be lazy.

There is no point in installing something and expecting it to be setup exactly as YOU want it to be. Frankly you just sound like a lazy c*** if you cant be bothered to try a OS simply because you may need to take a few seconds to install a Start Menu app. And don't give me none of this "don't have time" rubbish, I am a busy person but if taking a few seconds to install a app on your system is too much time in your life then you seriously need to look at your life.

Install StartIsBack, done.

It's not like disabling,removing and tweaking Windows is a new thing. IE, Media Player, Movie Maker, Outlook, Media Center, UAC all have to go/disable for me anyway. It's just 1 more thing on the list, no big deal.

Except for those who want to do system updates and install antivirus before looking for start menu alternatives you would then have to try to do everything in the new way. It can be a tedious task when really all you really need to do is to install 7, update it, install A/V and whatever programs and your good to go. I never bother to tweak the system until later and with W8 that's another story.

What on earth are you talking about, If you're installing other programs why not do start menu app at same time? Why is it a "tedious" task?

Also it takes seconds and just as many clicks in Win8 to update windows as it does in Win7.

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Its not about "having to" its about I WANT to. Who in their right mind apart from n00bs just uses default OS settings?? No matter what OS you get you should tweak it to your own preferences. Win8 is no different. I have been tweking OS's to suit my own personal preferences since Amiga days and Windows 8 is no different.

And who are you to say that I or any other person wont be using any of the new features or security?

You shouldn't have to tweak it upon first usage, i don't tweak everything right away upon re-installation or using a backup copy. You should be able to dive right in and get a few things done. Recently with W7 all i did was do updates, install A/V and whatever programs i need to use. Of course if you have the time to tweak every little thing, more power to you but if i need a new OS i just need it to be usable, not more things needed to do in order to get it to be usable. And it is very annoying to use the start screen when having to do system updates/and or drivers then get A/V. Those are the 2 things you should be doing first anyway before installing anything else and it's probably just me being picky but that's how i do things and W8 is a no go for me because it has no start menu built in. If others want to deal with it in another way whatever then. If i really did have the time to deal with all of that then i would most likely be using Linux instead of Windows.

..AGAIN its not about HAVING to its about WANTING TO!!!!!

Whenever I install a piece of software whether it be an app or an entire OS I check settings/preferences and "tweak" it to MY needs. Yes I could just leave every single app I use as default but that would just be lazy.

There is no point in installing something and expecting it to be setup exactly as YOU want it to be. Frankly you just sound like a lazy c*** if you cant be bothered to try a OS simply because you may need to take a few seconds to install a Start Menu app. And don't give me none of this "don't have time" rubbish, I am a busy person but if taking a few seconds to install a app on your system is too much time in your life then you seriously need to look at your life.

Install StartIsBack, done.

It's not like disabling,removing and tweaking Windows is a new thing. IE, Media Player, Movie Maker, Outlook, Media Center, UAC all have to go/disable for me anyway. It's just 1 more thing on the list, no big deal.

Except for those who want to do system updates and install antivirus before looking for start menu alternatives you would then have to try to do everything in the new way. It can be a tedious task when really all you really need to do is to install 7, update it, install A/V and whatever programs and your good to go. I never bother to tweak the system until later and with W8 that's another story.

What on earth are you talking about, If you're installing other programs why not do start menu app at same time? Why is it a "tedious" task?

Also it takes seconds and just as many clicks in Win8 to update windows as it does in Win7.

There is a quite big difference between an OS which has built-in funtionality (and you just need to tune/tweak it to your needs) or an OS where it was explicitly REMOVED (hell - they even Advertise the removed functionality as if they would listen to the end-users! Just look at the Win 8.1 Ad).

Why should I pay for additional functionality that was removed on purpose I presume ?

There are free alternatives to Start Menu, but to be honest - only two do matter and have a minimum impact on performance (Start8 and StartisBack - both are not free).

Why are you defending a stubborn as f**k MS Managment ?

Why should I pay TWICE for functionality that was already there ?

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Its not about "having to" its about I WANT to. Who in their right mind apart from n00bs just uses default OS settings?? No matter what OS you get you should tweak it to your own preferences. Win8 is no different. I have been tweking OS's to suit my own personal preferences since Amiga days and Windows 8 is no different.

And who are you to say that I or any other person wont be using any of the new features or security?

You shouldn't have to tweak it upon first usage, i don't tweak everything right away upon re-installation or using a backup copy. You should be able to dive right in and get a few things done. Recently with W7 all i did was do updates, install A/V and whatever programs i need to use. Of course if you have the time to tweak every little thing, more power to you but if i need a new OS i just need it to be usable, not more things needed to do in order to get it to be usable. And it is very annoying to use the start screen when having to do system updates/and or drivers then get A/V. Those are the 2 things you should be doing first anyway before installing anything else and it's probably just me being picky but that's how i do things and W8 is a no go for me because it has no start menu built in. If others want to deal with it in another way whatever then. If i really did have the time to deal with all of that then i would most likely be using Linux instead of Windows.

..AGAIN its not about HAVING to its about WANTING TO!!!!!

Whenever I install a piece of software whether it be an app or an entire OS I check settings/preferences and "tweak" it to MY needs. Yes I could just leave every single app I use as default but that would just be lazy.

There is no point in installing something and expecting it to be setup exactly as YOU want it to be. Frankly you just sound like a lazy c*** if you cant be bothered to try a OS simply because you may need to take a few seconds to install a Start Menu app. And don't give me none of this "don't have time" rubbish, I am a busy person but if taking a few seconds to install a app on your system is too much time in your life then you seriously need to look at your life.

Install StartIsBack, done.

It's not like disabling,removing and tweaking Windows is a new thing. IE, Media Player, Movie Maker, Outlook, Media Center, UAC all have to go/disable for me anyway. It's just 1 more thing on the list, no big deal.

Except for those who want to do system updates and install antivirus before looking for start menu alternatives you would then have to try to do everything in the new way. It can be a tedious task when really all you really need to do is to install 7, update it, install A/V and whatever programs and your good to go. I never bother to tweak the system until later and with W8 that's another story.

What on earth are you talking about, If you're installing other programs why not do start menu app at same time? Why is it a "tedious" task?

Also it takes seconds and just as many clicks in Win8 to update windows as it does in Win7.

There is a quite big difference between an OS which has built-in funtionality (and you just need to tune/tweak it to your needs) or an OS where it was explicitly REMOVED (hell - they even Advertise the removed functionality as if they would listen to the end-users! Just look at the Win 8.1 Ad).

Why should I pay for additional functionality that was removed on purpose I presume ?

There are free alternatives to Start Menu, but to be honest - only two do matter and have a minimum impact on performance (Start8 and StartisBack - both are not free).

Why are you defending a stubborn as f**k MS Managment ?

Why should I pay TWICE for functionality that was already there ?

Errrr, why pay anything for either?

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You guys make it sound like hard work. Making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Windows 8.1 goes straight to desktop, so the steps:

-Open IE

-Visit nsane & download StartIsBack

-Install

That's just one more thing on the install list of a fresh OS.

Yes, the complete removal of the Start Menu is a bummer, but get over it...

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You guys make it sound like hard work. Making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Windows 8.1 goes straight to desktop, so the steps:

-Open IE

-Visit nsane & download StartIsBack

-Install

That's just one more thing on the install list of a fresh OS.

Yes, the complete removal of the Start Menu is a bummer, but get over it...

Well... Just to add my two last cents...

I am considering other users (most or many users here I consider as "Power Users" who know exactly what they can do and are also willing to do it) that are not so skilled nor know nsane... Pity I know, but these are 90% of PC Users.

And what hurts me is the Stubbornness of MS... They just told us basically to stick it ...

Should we just accept it as MS tells us to do ?

Of course I get over it and tweak 8 to my liking, but is it wrong to ask myself (and others) if it wouldn't be simpler to leave the choice to the end-user rather than crippling the functionality ?

I like to have a choice. I like when I can tune everything without dirty hacks or custom Proggies (Regedit, dwmhook or Start8/isBack, Ribbon disabler etc.)

Just that. Simple.

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You are completely missing the point here, why should someone have to do all this when the start menu was included in previous versions?

Yes it takes 5 minutes to do all that, but for those that first do system updates then install A/V. You then have to do all that without the start menu. If you want to properly secure your system you first have to do the system updates/drivers then install A/V and whatever other security programs you want to install first. Then you tweak your system.

But hey if you don't really care what you put in first that's up to you, but users like me that don't want problems down the road i prefer doing things by the book and if i get a problem down the road i can roll back to when i first secured my system because 99% of the time it's a 3rd party software that causes your system to glitch up.

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Yes but you are still making it out to be a big task. Why do you require a Start Menu to install updates and a AV?

Just for your information: The original StartIsBack for win 8 contains Microsoft original code from Windows 7, and it does not run as a separate process or application...it completely integrates into Windows 8. Because of this it does not use system resources and is the fastest available Start menu for Windows 8.

You sound stupid.

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Whatever, i am not going to use Windows 8 deal with it. Windows 7 works fine and i'll be moving to Linux. If MS doesn't want to include the start menu, then they will just have to deal with the fact that some users will not upgrade to that system and go elsewhere.

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