Why use an antivirus with firewall?

[Boops]

I have installed Kaspersky Antivirus 2013 and use the firewall in Windows 8.

I performed the test PC Flank and everything is correct. So what is the advantage offered an antivirus with firewall?

http://www.pcflank.com/index.htm

[Lacius]

Real-time antivirus programs and firewall programs are both important. Firewalls prevent unwanted access to your computer from the internet, and most routers and operating systems already have sufficient firewalls in place. A real-time antivirus program scans both incoming and present files on your computer for malware. If you have an antivirus program but no firewall, someone could potentially gain access to your computer. If you have a firewall but no antivirus program, you could still accidentally download malware through something like your internet browser. It's highly recommended that one have both a firewall and an antivirus program of some kind.

[Boops]

I meant to have Kaspersky Antivirus 2013 + Firewall Windows 8.

I think the Windows Firewall 8 is enough

[unknownasphyxiated]

because we know windows firewall suck, that why we choose av with fw

what we don't know is almost all fw that come with the av are suck too :lol:

im using ESS right now..the only reason i don't use seperate fw because my laptop spec is too low B)

[clubhouse]

The windows 8 firewall is a oneway firewall I believe, it won't prevent software or more importantly malware calling out unless you configure to do so, and then on a one by one basis....Most 3rd party firewalls are two way and prevent malware and software calling out by way of a warning, you decide if it should or should not...Kaspersky Internet Security (the full suite would)

[Boops]

I think the Antivirus with Firewall have a number of options that can actually be summed up with those you have the Firewall of Windows 8.

I think they have too much options we never got to use and often be complicated.

[Lacius]

The windows 8 firewall is a oneway firewall I believe, it won't prevent software or more importantly malware calling out unless you configure to do so, and then on a one by one basis....Most 3rd party firewalls are two way and prevent malware and software calling out by way of a warning, you decide if it should or should not...Kaspersky Internet Security (the full suite would)

Windows Firewall has been two-way since Windows Vista.

[clubhouse]

Does it flag up warnings (win eight that something without a pedefined rule is calling out?)....It doesn't on Win 7......That's what I was driving at with third party firewalls.

[Boops]

The windows 8 firewall is a oneway firewall I believe, it won't prevent software or more importantly malware calling out unless you configure to do so, and then on a one by one basis....Most 3rd party firewalls are two way and prevent malware and software calling out by way of a warning, you decide if it should or should not...Kaspersky Internet Security (the full suite would)

Windows Firewall has been two-way since Windows Vista.

If it is correct. Perhaps not as popular, but I think it's as effective as any antivirus suite.

[Lacius]

Does it flag up warnings (win eight that something without a pedefined rule is calling out?)....It doesn't on Win 7......That's what I was driving at with third party firewalls.

Yes it does. You should get firewall warnings on Windows 7 for something that's without a predefined rule. By default, most things are blocked.

If it is correct. Perhaps not as popular, but I think it's as effective as any antivirus suite.

As far as functionality goes, Windows Firewall is just as good as any third-party firewall. Customizability is pretty much the only difference; firewalls are pretty standard.

[clubhouse]

Does it flag up warnings (win eight that something without a pedefined rule is calling out?)....It doesn't on Win 7......That's what I was driving at with third party firewalls.

Yes it does. You should get firewall warnings on Windows 7 for something that's without a predefined rule. By default, most things are blocked.

If it is correct. Perhaps not as popular, but I think it's as effective as any antivirus suite.

As far as functionality goes, Windows Firewall is just as good as any third-party firewall. Customizability is pretty much the only difference; firewalls are pretty standard.

Oh well mine doesn't (win 7)... for example....Comando Firewall will warn me via a pop that for examlple Revo Uninstaller is trying to make an outbound connection, Win 7 firewall just lets it call out with no warning...I need to look and see how to set up the built in firewall to do that.

[Boops]

Does it flag up warnings (win eight that something without a pedefined rule is calling out?)....It doesn't on Win 7......That's what I was driving at with third party firewalls.

Yes it does. You should get firewall warnings on Windows 7 for something that's without a predefined rule. By default, most things are blocked.

If it is correct. Perhaps not as popular, but I think it's as effective as any antivirus suite.

As far as functionality goes, Windows Firewall is just as good as any third-party firewall. Customizability is pretty much the only difference; firewalls are pretty standard.

Yes, I believe so. But the peculiarity of integration with the operating system itself gives you an advantage, since the firewall that offer suites take over the system to perform its function.

[clubhouse]

I agree that since Windows 7 is a superb firewall, it just lacks granuality, I would be happy with it if it alerted you to new outgoing connections, as far as I know it doesn't.....If it does could somebody tell me how to achieve that via its settings?

[unknownasphyxiated]

try Windows Firewall Control
http://www.nsanedown.com/?request=141472782

[Boops]

A nice addition would be to use EMET (Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit) + ASLR (Address Space Layout Randomization) + DEP (Data Execution Prevention)

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/jj653751

[Kalju]

My dear friends, no firewall or antivirus will not protect you from nothing.

The same way as the life insurance does not make you immortal.

Only Yours money is safe place, when it is not longer in Yours pocket.

[Lacius]

My dear friends, no firewall or antivirus will not protect you from nothing.

The same way as the life insurance does not make you immortal.

Only Yours money is safe place, when it is not longer in Yours pocket.

You're absolutely right, just like how a seatbelt doesn't make one immortal either; however, I'm still going to wear my seatbelt and use an antivirus and firewall.

[teodor12]

this answer is a nonsense : microsoft built-in firewall ,other free and payed firewalls are just competitors , it`s your choice. But you have to think that antivirus and firewall should work fine together so is maybe better to have the same producer .For ex some developers include hips in firewall , others in antivirus so security elements are very different built .Then is smarter to have a seamless ,synergist security suite

If you ask why to use antivirus when you have firewall ? PCFlank is a firewall test . Then ask Microsoft why they built Microsoft Security Essentials /windows defender if they had already firewall.

[dMog]

this answer is a nonsense : microsoft built-in firewall ,other free and payed firewalls are just competitors , it`s your choice. But you have to think that antivirus and firewall should work fine together so is maybe better to have the same producer .For ex some developers include hips in firewall , others in antivirus so security elements are very different built .Then is smarter to have a seamless ,synergist security suite

If you ask why to use antivirus when you have firewall ? PCFlank is a firewall test . Then ask Microsoft why they built Microsoft Security Essentials /windows defender if they had already firewall.

the real reason$$$$ and more$$$$ for any company that sells the software..... paranoid people will buy anything advertised to save them

[Reefa]

Windows 8 firewall is at best good enough for the average user.But if u want much more control there are a few good free alternatives.My fav at the mo is private firewall.i did have comodo but that was in the early days of windows 8.so i ditched it havnt looked back since :)

[Reefa]

Look I go places and do things no normal person would or should do ! No problems with windows firewall plus KAS, plus MBAM , plus common sense .......a duck is a duck!?

thats not was i was saying.was i

[Reefa]

Look I go places and do things no normal person would or should do ! No problems with windows firewall plus KAS, plus MBAM , plus common sense .......a duck is a duck!?

thats not was i was saying.was i

very sorry i thought u where talkin to me :)

[OrbingStorm]

Remember the good old days of zone alarm.Wonder if its still around?

[Dodel]

Given the amount of Viri's & Malware dotting about the net, it would be advisable to run both an AV and Firewall (I run Eset AV & Outpost).

As already stated a Firewall generally monitors inbound & outbound activity & malware (to an extent), where as an AV can detect nasties on your setup & anything web orientated (drive bys et cetera), again this is software dependant.

I remember watching a Vid posted on here a good few year ago, of someone dumping an unproteced XP machine online, and within something along the lines of 5 mins it was crippled with infections. Yes I know it's XP, but the fundamental rule still applies, why take the risk. It's not as if todays setups cannot cope with running both an AV & FW, were not running P2's or such like, and even if you are, there are plenty of low footprint alternatives.

Firewalls and Av's are simply an additional preventative meausre, not meant to be relied on as 100% security, that's not possible (Unless you were to leave your PC / Latop or whatever, in the packaging it came in.) and even then it's not guarenteed to be clean (unscroupulous manufacturers installing backdoors an gubbins.

I'd always recommend running both, and it's something I always install when doing rebuilds.

On a side note, I rarely install Suites,like an AIO Firewall and AV package, because if an exploit is found for a suite your leaving your entire system open, where it's more difficult to deploy an exploit for two seperate products, say an ESET AV and an Outpost firewall.

Regards

Dodel.

[ROMANTICGUY50]

I use Avast Anti-virus Pro and Comodo for my firewall. I also use Malwaarebytes and Super-anti spyware sweeper for my protection.