H.265 halves bitrate, keeps quality the same

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HEVC or H.265 video compression will affect all stages of video content creation and delivery, and possibly let providers deliver Ultra HD video over existing infrastructure, according to Motorola Mobility.

“Since it will take half the bit rate for similar quality, HEVC can be used for many different applications that are not feasible today or very expensive,” said Ajay Luthra vice president of advanced technologies for Motorola Mobility at the NAB Show in Las Vegas.

Ultra HD or 4K video content typically needs to be delivered at 50 or 60 megabits per second, he said. For reference, the highest quality 1080p YouTube videos top out at about 2mbps. Delivering Ultra HD content has been a challenge for content creators and, more importantly, makers of Ultra HD televisions. Currently, Ultra HD videos are played off a hard drive for Sony televisions. The content can’t be streamed or played from a Blu-ray disc.

With HEVC, Luthra said Ultra HD can be delivered at less than 20 megabits per second.

“If you go on the lower side you can do streaming video,” he said. “For example, you can do 720p [video at 30 frames per second] at around 1.5mbps.” That’s half the bit rate that video usually consumes.

“You can use existing home networking technology to efficiently distribute HD video wirelessly inside the home,” he said.

At its booth at NAB Motorola Mobility showed two tablets, one with video encoded using H.264 and the other with video encoded using H.265. The very slight difference in quality favored the new standard; it looked clear and less pixilated.

For mobile users H.265 means using less bandwith and computing power to watch videos. For cable and content providers, it potentially means providing more content using their existing infrastructure. And for consumers it means seeing no degradation in picture quality.

The standard is still being finalized, but HEVC should be in use early next year.

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[rudrax]

WOW..Impressive! :huh:

[Bizarre™]

I can't wait for it to be released ^_^

[nanana1]

This is a deal breaker ! :wub:

[DKT27]

If the scene starts using it even after few years, people will still go mad over it. -_-

[rseiler]

Considering that the scene was using Xvid for very many things, at least on the TV side, until just last year, can we pencil in H.265 for 2020?

[rudrax]

This means a 700 MB DVDrip movie will be 350 MB in size now on..

[insanedown58]

This is amazing! I can't wait for this to happen.

[nIGHT]

This means I'm going to enjoy watching more movies in HD now! Hurraaayyy! :dance: :clap:

[Zex]

Its a WIN situation for everybody :showoff:

[dcs18]

I'd like to also see something like this for my .MKV Blu Ray collection - The Avengers weighed in at 16 GBs. :)

[eqagunn]

I have been downloading and encoding in AVC/H264 since 2008.

I'm patiently waiting for usable free HEVC/H265 encoder to be released. :)

[rudrax]

I'd like to also see something like this for my .MKV Blu Ray collection - The Avengers weighed in at 16 GBs. :)

The best in my collection is "AVATAR.mkv" 8 GB BluRay.

[unready]

I have been downloading and encoding in AVC/H264 since 2008.

I'm patiently waiting for usable free HEVC/H265 encoder to be released. :)

I agree, and some hardware support as well.. Like media players that can play the new format(-s) efficiently :)

[Marik]

so a dvd-rip will be the size of a tv series (350 something MB)...holy crap, that's awesome

[dcs18]

I'd like to also see something like this for my .MKV Blu Ray collection - The Avengers weighed in at 16 GBs. :)

The best in my collection is "AVATAR.mkv" 8 GB BluRay.

Oh yeah, that one's a must - have got the Extended version (uncensored) 7.93 GB.

Excellent video quality - the volume is on the lower side, though.

[Paft]

You guys still watch dvdrips? Are your connections crap?

I have been grabbing HD mkv since 2007.

[DKT27]

Considering that the scene was using Xvid for very many things, at least on the TV side, until just last year, can we pencil in H.265 for 2020?

I don't expect H.265 before 2020. :P Unless, scene guys put the pedal to the metal and decided that "screw the haters, we are adapting the newer, better codec, deal with it".

This means a 700 MB DVDrip movie will be 350 MB in size now on..

Actually, the 700MB DVDRips I'm seeing right now (on TPB) are all Xvid based, meaning, if they encode that in H.264, you might already get that quality of 700MB with just 350MB. H.265, on the other hand, will mean, same quality in 175MB. :D

Even though my knowledge in these stuff is a little less, but get ready for medium quality / good quality 1GB 720p rips. ;)

I have been downloading and encoding in AVC/H264 since 2008.

I'm patiently waiting for usable free HEVC/H265 encoder to be released. :)

Like H.264, all the software converters will start offering H.265 sooner or later of it's arrival. Companies, however, will need to pay for the royalty, like they do for H.264.

You guys still watch dvdrips? Are your connections crap?

I have been grabbing HD mkv since 2007.

India for example, is having a connection what UK had 5-6 years ago. Still, I try to look for an atleast 720p and if possible 1080p one.

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Also, currently, all the mobile devices would be supporting H.264 at hardware level. But when H.265 releases, this might not be the case. However, that's when software decoders kick in.

[Paft]

The 720p releases from ViSiON for example were a godsend.

I occasionally get 1080p but tend to get 720p because even they gobble up space quickly.

[DKT27]

The 720p releases from ViSiON for example were a godsend.

Looks like, half of the time they still use XViD. Probably due to public demand. I for one, would try to completely ban Divx and Xvid from the scene if I was incharge of a scene group. :P

It's simple, either the downloaders get a new player, or convert it to Xvid to themselves.

[Paft]

Yeah. I have noticed they've been doing x264 AAC as well more recently.

Edit: But judging by your post you knew that.... I'm tired.

[rudrax]

I'd like to also see something like this for my .MKV Blu Ray collection - The Avengers weighed in at 16 GBs. :)

The best in my collection is "AVATAR.mkv" 8 GB BluRay.

Oh yeah, that one's a must - have got the Extended version (uncensored) 7.93 GB.

Excellent video quality - the volume is on the lower side, though.

The one I have is of 7.94 GB 720p. The quality is so high that can not seek that fast without HaaliSplitter. Other splitter freezes the video for one or two seconds at seek but Haali is so fluid to do that.

This means a 700 MB DVDrip movie will be 350 MB in size now on..

Actually, the 700MB DVDRips I'm seeing right now (on TPB) are all Xvid based, meaning, if they encode that in H.264, you might already get that quality of 700MB with just 350MB. H.265, on the other hand, will mean, same quality in 175MB. :D

Even though my knowledge in these stuff is a little less, but get ready for medium quality / good quality 1GB 720p rips. ;)

Oh that the reason for which I see the following phenomenon:

DVDrip movie encoded with Xvid/DivX are 700 MB in size but the BluRay version of the same movie encoded with H.264 are 550 MB in size and has better quality.

[DKT27]

Oh that the reason for which I see the following phenomenon:

DVDrip movie encoded with Xvid/DivX are 700 MB in size but the BluRay version of the same movie encoded with H.264 are 550 MB in size and has better quality.

Exactly. ;)

[rudrax]

Oh that the reason for which I see the following phenomenon:

DVDrip movie encoded with Xvid/DivX are 700 MB in size but the BluRay version of the same movie encoded with H.264 are 550 MB in size and has better quality.

Exactly. ;)

So why they do it with Xvid instead of H.264 for DVDrips?

[DKT27]

So why they do it with Xvid instead of H.264 for DVDrips?

The known reasons are:

1. The DVD players people use still don't support H.264. I believe they are age old ones.
2. Scene recently (6 months ago?) switched to x264 from XviD. The delay was because of the above reason. The scene took almost 9 years after the first release of H.264 to make actual use of it due to this.
3. Because of reason one, people were really pissed off when scene decided to make a rule for using H.264 instead of XviD.

Now, if scene has totally banned XviD (like DivX is banned from scene releases) or not, or have kept it optional or are these people just P2P, something I am not sure (the scene rules are too long to read :P ).