nsane.forums Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Mozilla today released version 19 of its popular Firefox browser, and in the new version implemented a long-awaited built-in PDF viewer.The Portable Document Format is one of the more ubiquitous document types both on the Web and on personal devices, and can be used for distributing manuals, brochures, and most other formatted documents.However, until now Firefox, one of the more popular Web browsers, in part due to its availability on OS X, Windows, and Linux, has not had a built-in PDF reader. Instead, to open PDFs it's been necessary to either install a browser plug-in or download the PDFs and open them in a managing program like Apple's Preview.However, in the latest version of Firefox, Mozilla has included a native PDF viewer that ought to make possible quick and complete viewing of PDFs without the need for other programs and plug-ins.In Firefox 19, released this morning, if you open a PDF either from a Web link or from your hard drive, it will appear in the browser in a simple but efficient interface that has options for zooming (manually or automatically), viewing a PDF in a full-screen presentation mode, navigating to specific pages by number, and scrolling through thumbnails of the loaded document.Firefox's new PDF viewer is a simple and straightforward option, enabling the browser to manage PDFs without third-party software.If you are a Firefox user then chances are that you have Adobe's Reader plug-in installed, so if after updating to version 19 you still see the same Adobe PDF interface, try going to the Firefox Add-Ons manager (in the Tools menu) and clicking the option to disable the Adobe Reader plug-in.While the new reader is a great option, it does lack one feature for Mac users: support for gestures like pinch-zooming, which can be extraordinarily useful for quickly viewing small PDF content. However, a native PDF viewer in the browser is a very welcome and long-awaited addition.Firefox 19 should automatically download sometime today when you run Firefox, but you can also download the latest version from the Mozilla Web page.View: Original Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alhaitham Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 thanks for the news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightmare Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'm assuming this is the same in Cyberfox, since it uses the same source code? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2ms Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I wonder if it can actually render any .pdf, but seems nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amigaspace Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 What's next? A built-in Word/Excel reader? An image conversion tool? A DVD burner? One more reason to switch to Pale Moon, if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vin3e Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Someone said IceDragon was the fatest alternative. Any confirmations?I've read about Waterfox and now 2 more in this thread - Pale Moon and CyberFox.:D Im not a smart man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amigaspace Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Waterfox and CyberFox (I guess) are 64-bit versions of FireFox. Pale Moon is a bit diferrent, in that it removes useless Firefox features and actually improves on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 It's ridiculous that the PDF reading feature which was made available on the nightly almost an year ago has taken such a long time to make it to the more popular (common) iteration. :think: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted February 20, 2013 Administrator Share Posted February 20, 2013 I wonder if it can actually render any .pdf, but seems niceYes it can, and very very smoothly. Infact, as far as navigating and reading part is concerned, it beats all the PDF readers out there (in my view).What's next? A built-in Word/Excel reader? An image conversion tool? A DVD burner? One more reason to switch to Pale Moon, if you ask me.What the hell is wrong with a PDF reader? It's javascript based reader written in HTML5. No more needlessly downloading PDFs just to read certain parts.Use 6-8 month old Pale Moon version if you want. But eventually it has to have this function.Someone said IceDragon was the fatest alternative. Any confirmations?I've read about Waterfox and now 2 more in this thread - Pale Moon and CyberFox. :D Im not a smart manI have reasons to believe that Cyberfox might be the fastest one out there. Certainly it's no IceDragon, as it's more about security than performance.Waterfox and CyberFox (I guess) are 64-bit versions of FireFox. Pale Moon is a bit diferrent, in that it removes useless Firefox features and actually improves on it.Last time I checked, Pale Moon didn't remove features. And as I've mentioned before, I'm most certain they will not remove this feature.It's ridiculous that the PDF reading feature which was made available on the nightly almost an year ago has taken such a long time to make it to the more popular (common) iteration. :think:Yes it was. It was also added to Beta/final versions long time ago. But it wasn't enabled by default, specifically because they were doing more changes and fixes to the PDF reader thingy. AFAIR, they had the PDF project in two parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Someone said IceDragon was the fatest alternative. Any confirmations?I've read about Waterfox and now 2 more in this thread - Pale Moon and CyberFox.I'd never recommend anyone to use it - but, the fastest browser across every parameter is the V21, x64-bit (please note, it's a nightly.)The next fastest IMO, is the Cyberfox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vin3e Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Someone said IceDragon was the fatest alternative. Any confirmations?I've read about Waterfox and now 2 more in this thread - Pale Moon and CyberFox.I'd never recommend anyone to use it - but, the fastest browser across every parameter is the V21, x64-bit (please note, it's a nightly.)The next fastest IMO, is the Cyberfox.I dont know how to multi quote :D but thanks ladies.Will be downloading CyberFox tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaLeigh Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I wonder if it can actually render any .pdf, but seems niceYes it can, and very very smoothly. Infact, as far as navigating and reading part is concerned, it beats all the PDF readers out there (in my view).>>What's next? A built-in Word/Excel reader? An image conversion tool? A DVD burner? One more reason to switch to Pale Moon, if you ask me.What the hell is wrong with a PDF reader? It's javascript based reader written in HTML5. No more needlessly downloading PDFs just to read certain parts.Use 6-8 month old Pale Moon version if you want. But eventually it has to have this function.Someone said IceDragon was the fatest alternative. Any confirmations?I've read about Waterfox and now 2 more in this thread - Pale Moon and CyberFox. :D Im not a smart manI have reasons to believe that Cyberfox might be the fastest one out there. Certainly it's no IceDragon, as it's more about security than performance.Waterfox and CyberFox (I guess) are 64-bit versions of FireFox. Pale Moon is a bit diferrent, in that it removes useless Firefox features and actually improves on it.Last time I checked, Pale Moon didn't remove features. And as I've mentioned before, I'm most certain they will not remove this feature.It's ridiculous that the PDF reading feature which was made available on the nightly almost an year ago has taken such a long time to make it to the more popular (common) iteration. :think:Yes it was. It was also added to Beta/final versions long time ago. But it wasn't enabled by default, specifically because they were doing more changes and fixes to the PDF reader thingy. AFAIR, they had the PDF project in two parts.Too funny, DKT27, I always read your posts and hear Stan's adorable voice saying them! How silly is that?!? :lol:I too, like the built-in features, be it a PDF or any other functional in-line app. The whole idea is to get what you need done online with as little hassle as possible, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 The whole idea is to get what you need done online with as little hassle as possible, right?Absolutely!!!To add my 2 cents - to also be now; in a position to banish all those pesky PDF add-ons/plugins from Firefox (goes a long way in preventing crashes & resource hogging.) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted February 20, 2013 Administrator Share Posted February 20, 2013 Too funny, DKT27, I always read your posts and hear Stan's adorable voice saying them! How silly is that?!? :lol:I too, like the built-in features, be it a PDF or any other functional in-line app. The whole idea is to get what you need done online with as little hassle as possible, right?Dude. Don't read in my (Stan's) voice, it makes me uncomfortable. :P Nah, just joking. I never thought like that myself. :think:*Reading my posts in Stan's voice* Damn, feels awesome. :DIndeed. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefa Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 dcs.i agree nightly.sweet :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vin3e Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Wow, I am impressed with its PDF viewer. Very fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaLeigh Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 The whole idea is to get what you need done online with as little hassle as possible, right?Absolutely!!!To add my 2 cents - to also be now; in a position to banish all those pesky PDF add-ons/plugins from Firefox (goes a long way in preventing crashes & resource hogging.) :)DCS18, I agree except that I can't see a way to save a web page as a PDF natively. The File>Save page as.. doesn't offer PDF. Am I missing something? If I'm not, I'll keep my PDFit! add-on; which I LOVE and use all the time. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaLeigh Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Too funny, DKT27, I always read your posts and hear Stan's adorable voice saying them! How silly is that?!? :lol:I too, like the built-in features, be it a PDF or any other functional in-line app. The whole idea is to get what you need done online with as little hassle as possible, right?Dude. Don't read in my (Stan's) voice, it makes me uncomfortable. :P Nah, just joking. I never thought like that myself. :think:*Reading my posts in Stan's voice* Damn, feels awesome. :DIndeed. :)DTK27, Of course I meant it as a compliment, really! We go way back, here on NSDFs, don't we? Truly! Oh, and you know, I am SOOOOOoooooo not a "dude". LOLz! too funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudrax Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 How much extra size does the PDF viewer add to the installer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 The whole idea is to get what you need done online with as little hassle as possible, right?Absolutely!!!To add my 2 cents - to also be now; in a position to banish all those pesky PDF add-ons/plugins from Firefox (goes a long way in preventing crashes & resource hogging.) :)DCS18, I agree except that I can't see a way to save a web page as a PDF natively. The File>Save page as.. doesn't offer PDF. Am I missing something? If I'm not, I'll keep my PDFit! add-on; which I LOVE and use all the time. :)There are 2 ways to go about it:-At destination - (on an open PDF page in Firefox) one can use the the key combination (Ctrl + S) orAt source - ie, before the PDF can even be loaded within Firefox, one can use the following config:- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 DCS18, I agree except that I can't see a way to save a web page as a PDF natively. The File>Save page as.. doesn't offer PDF. Am I missing something? If I'm not, I'll keep my PDFit! add-on; which I LOVE and use all the time. :)The 3rd option - the best of both the worlds; is to use the 'All Files.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaLeigh Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 DCS18 -- Thank you so much for the 3 examples. You're a lifesaver! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 My apologies - what I'm referring to are not web-pages, but PDF pages (sorry, I just read your post more minutely.) :PEdit:-Oh, they worked for you, in some way. LOL - all the best. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted February 21, 2013 Administrator Share Posted February 21, 2013 DCS18, I agree except that I can't see a way to save a web page as a PDF natively. The File>Save page as.. doesn't offer PDF. Am I missing something? If I'm not, I'll keep my PDFit! add-on; which I LOVE and use all the time. :) You can't directly save pages in PDF I think. But if you want, you can save the already opened PDF by clicking the second-last top right button "download" from the opened PDF. DTK27, Of course I meant it as a compliment, really! We go way back, here on NSDFs, don't we? Truly! Oh, and you know, I am SOOOOOoooooo not a "dude". LOLz! too funny! :) I know you're not a dude, but that's Stan's most regular expression (irrespective of the gender). :P How much extra size does the PDF viewer add to the installer?I haven't counted it myself, but when the PDF integration was added as an addon like js format, it was around 750KB in size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudrax Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 How much extra size does the PDF viewer add to the installer?I haven't counted it myself, but when the PDF integration was added as an addon like js format, it was around 750KB in size.Not that big, indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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