I'm swtcihing to Firefox But need a few things.

September 25, 2005

1.How to rig it up.

2.Proxy plugins

3.All useful plugins.

THX IN ADVANCE

September 25, 2005

Extensions

Tweak Network Settings: Tweaks your firefox in one go.

Adblock AND adblock filterset updater

Tabbrowser manager: Good tab manager

Disable targets for downloads: Disables firefox from opening black windows when you click a command ie clicking a download link

User Agent switcher: Choose to run as opera IE or FF

Optional but not installed on mine:

FoxyTunes: Winamp installed into browser :P

Programs to help tweak it more

FireTune: One click tweak. Google it.

Enjoy. Opera is crap :blink:

September 25, 2005

Tons of guides out there... :blink:

http://opensourcearticles.com/introduction_to_firefox

September 25, 2005

Opera is crap :blink:

Proove it :P

September 25, 2005

Okay what the hell,i thought firefox had tabs,My version is 1.0.7

Thnx for the guides i got the tabs working

September 26, 2005

More extensions:

Greasemonkey and Platypus- Greasemonkey uses customized JavaScript to edit and change pages to your liking.

Platypus allows you to manually edit webpages and save your changes as JavaScript, which is automatically loaded into GreaseMonkey.

Linkification- Really useful, turns all text links into clickable hyperlinks.

IE View- Right click menu allows you to open any page in IE, if it's incompatible with Firefox.

TinyURL creator- Right click menu gives you the option to create a TinyURL link from the page you're viewing. Really handy.

Bookmark Backup- Just to be on the safe side :blink:

September 26, 2005

Okay what the hell,i thought firefox had tabs,My version is 1.0.7
Thnx for the guides i got the tabs working
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September 26, 2005

Proove it ;)

Doubting me again are we sammy :lol: Operas fast...But with the right knowledge, firefox is even faster :D

Wise words my friend. Opera is for all those who like everything bundled together, FF is for experts who like to customize to their exact needs :lol:

Opera is faster than FF by Default, but i've made firefox much faster :lol:

September 26, 2005

Doubting me again are we sammy :lol: Operas fast...But with the right knowledge, firefox is even faster :D

Thats simply bullshit (sorry theres no other way to put it). Opera is by FAR faster rendering than firefox (even internet explorer is quicker than firefox).

Wise words my friend. Opera is for all those who like everything bundled together, FF is for experts who like to customize to their exact needs :lol:

Opera is just as customizable. It just may take a bit longer to find all the settings as theres literally hundreds (maybe thousands) of undocumented features/ tweaks in opera, but then again normal everyday users will have no need to access these. Please tell me who these experts are.

Opera is faster than FF by Default, but i've made firefox much faster :lol:

No you havent. You've made firefox SEEM faster, but its still not as quick as opera. You can make opera SEEM even quicker by editing max number of connections per server, cache, update checking etc.

Please, only facts.

September 26, 2005

Who needs facts, we want customer responses.

Its doesnt SEEM faster, i've easily made it faster and i tested it too, just by simple logging onto pages that takes ages to render.

This is why opera is too complicated for its own good, you have to FIND out HOW to customize it, whereas FF is simply download this, press this and viola, faster already :lol:

Personally, ive had a much better experience with FF than Opera, Opera TRIES to be unique by including all these configurations that normal computer users wont understand what their use is for, an example would be when i tried to configure opera and could understand why we needed options on when to redraw images, text etc. Is it really needed? Dont think so.

All i hear about Opera, is 2 things:

1. Its super customizable you can move this bar over here. and the other bar over there - Yep very customizable

2. Its the fastest browser in the world - Default ok i understand, after tweaked with all the tools available for FF, No. Unless Opera has a more easier way of making it faster except fiddling with the TWO settings it gives you, max connections and max connections per blah, oh and maybe tweak the cache abit.

Call me a sheep, if the majority uses it with no problems im happy, im not going to lose sleep over Opera > FF because there is no breaking evidence nor have i really heard any significant arguemtns for it.

These arguments are usually:

1. No FF is slower because opera is faster

2. Opera is more customizable

3. Yer but the size of the .exe is smaller

4. Has a much better adblocker - not really, its ad filter doesnt filter the java on nsanes homepage, such as words being in bold and bringin up google boxes.

Hmm cant think of anymore, these are the most common.

*Takes a breather*

There, cmon Lite :lol: war of the admin and member :lol:

September 26, 2005

heres a speed tweak guide too, makes it go about 2x faster.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1299854/posts

September 26, 2005

There we go again... opinions. Opinions are nothing when the facts say the opposite. (take a look here, other tests confirm this). Please tell me how you edited firefox to render pages more quickly, as i'm sure the mozilla devs would be VERY interested in this. You have prolly gone and edited you ini

How do you know a "page renders slowly"? Am i right in the assumption that you mean one thats slow downloading? How do you test if a website renders faster? Look at it?

Opera has good default settings. The most common configuration things are easy to find. Most of the advanced features won't be needed by the common user, so they are not accessable easily. This makes it easier to use, right? Like editing the number of connections, in opera i make two clicks.

Firefox on the other hand, i need to download 100s of extensions to get the some functionality i have with a default opera, wouldn't be finding these extensions be harder than clicking two buttons? Using the above example with firefox i would have to find out how to do that, perhaps the default way would be to type in "about:config" into the address bar and then fiddle with half a dozen settings to get the same effect. Call me stupid, but i'm sure a few clicks is easier than messing about with names i have no idea what they mean? :lol:

I know my last two paragraphs are prolly babble, but i'm still waiting for valid reasons.

About your arguements:

1) Thats a fact, nothing can go against that.

2) Once again a fact, who can argue with the facts?

3) Yup, Opera is a smaller download.

4) You can block adverts just as easily with opera. Content filters for scripts? No problems you can do that easily to with opera. You can change filter sets etc, just like you can with an extension in firefox.

@oxygenuk, once again i see these random "speed up links". I'll breakdown what they do (and why they are the default options and the problems they cause)

"network.http.pipelining" to "true"
"network.http.proxy.pipelining" to "true"

Both of these are disabled by default as they are EXPERIMENTAL and cause stability problems.

"network.http.pipelining.maxrequests" to some number like 30. This means it will make 30 requests at once.

Will dramitically increase memory/ CPU usage.

Lastly right-click anywhere and select New-> Integer. Name it "nglayout.initialpaint.delay" and set its value to "0". This value is the amount of time the browser waits before it acts on information it recieves.

This "tweak" is really pointless. It makes it SEEM that firefox renders a page quickly, but it actually doesnt. If you use a stopwatch to see how long page takes to render with this set to zero vs default, i think you will find the default one is quicker.... Why you ask? Simple firefox will be trying to render stuff that isn't actually downloaded. Not only increasing CPU/ Memory usage, but INCREASING the overall rendering time.

Peace out...

Edit: Theres things firefox does better than Opera, but speed, resource usage and (quesitionably) ease of use aren't these.

September 26, 2005

About your arguements:
1) Thats a fact, nothing can go against that.
2) Once again a fact, who can argue with the facts?
3) Yup, Opera is a smaller download.
4) You can block adverts just as easily with opera. Content filters for scripts? No problems you can do that easily to with opera. You can change filter sets etc, just like you can with an extension in firefox.

Yeah these are facts, but what good do they do when these facts dont meet user demand, i dont want a software that says its customizable because you can move stuff around, nor do i really care how big an .exe file is, after hearing numerous people boost about their 1024 gig dual ram and 10 terra byte hard disks.

Not everyone knows how to monitor how fast a browser is, me for example so we go by analysing how fast a page is rendered in each browser, for me everytime i went to www.dota-allstars.com/forums it took a good 8 - 10 secs to load, where as in FF it was roughly 5 - 9 secs. So thats how i come to my conclusion.

:lol:

September 26, 2005

Pretty biased opinion, but in any case I tested out the link you posted and as it was my first time visiting it, the images were not cached so expected a short delay. I was wrong. I loaded the site up in around 3 seconds using Opera.

Guess that throws your test out of the window eh? And no I haven't tweaked Opera.

September 26, 2005

Huh, what when where how ...

I hate admins

September 27, 2005

(even internet explorer is quicker than firefox).

Not to fight or anything but I think that's just pure bullshit. Firefox is WAY faster than IE. My opinion and others that I have asked.

September 27, 2005

No its not bullshit. The internet explorer rendering engine IS faster than firefox's. Its the way Firefox renders pages (text first, images later) that makes it SEEM quicker. There is a huge difference between SEEMING quicker and actually being quicker.

Theres another link, that i'll dig up that will help show you none-beleivers.

September 27, 2005

Lite is upping the stakes.

FF ftw

September 27, 2005

I would like to thank lite,and sam for making me swtich to Opera,After only one week from installing FireFox.You couldn't resist just for one month to let me try FF and then posting that opera is better,thanks to you now I have 3 browsers IE,FF,and newly Opera.THANKS A LOT LITE,SAM.