vissha Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Ever since Windows 8 got to see daylight, Microsoft was continuously criticized for the changes it made to the operating system, with some people blaming Steve Ballmer, the current CEO of the company.Both users and analysts said that Ballmer should go, as Microsoft urgently needs a change of management that could revamp the company and help it adapt to a younger market.Now Sanjay Bhatia, CEO of Izenda, one of the companies that sell software to Microsoft, says that Microsoft indeed needs an upper management shift, as the technology titan must try to make the most of its great products and services.“Microsoft is moving too slow. They are doing the right thing, but they don’t have a sense of urgency. I think somebody needs to go in to realize like they did in Bill Gates’ days that the time is now and youcan’t wait years to embrace these new ideas and new products,” he said in an interview with FoxBusiness.Source: Softpedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marik Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 hopefully after he get's canned we'll never have to experience another windows8 nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rach Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 :sadbye: mr. Ballmer, maybe too harsh, he must go for sure :tehe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olexijl Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I actually have Win8 Enterprise eval. version running in VMware here, what i can say is following:* installed Start8 directly after purchase.* found all settings quickly, however you need some time to adapt to a new concept.I'm running it like i new from Win7 (and i would never run it INSTEAD OF Win7), but additionally if people want to run apps they know from their android/windows smartphone, that's it.Desktop was the MAIN accesspoint in earlier systems. You could make shortcuts on Desktop and the old startmenu gave access to all programs running on the Desktop. You could make everything on it.Now just to be on Desktop is a limitation of own possibilities: You can make shortcuts to the old programs - and you can use the old startmenu (if you purchased one from 3rd party) - you can run the old programs too - but that's not all you can do. Additionally you can install the programs you know from your smartphone (if you have one). Those programs are known as apps.Skype can be run in the Dektop mode (installing via normal executable) or in App mode (downloading in Microsoft Store).As for myself: i found several Internetradios like Digitally Imported and installed it directly.PS: Facebook as app is a big Sh!t. It is terrible. Some apps are not working as expected. I installed TuneIn Radio app, not working at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olexijl Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 hopefully after he get's canned we'll never have to experience another windows8 nightmareNightmare? Are you sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vissha Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Windows 8 is just a blank OS(even worst than any other free OS), if we don't use Microsoft ac in OS configurations. & touch sreen.Think people: Ask Yourself these Q's:Why pay/get for a bank OS, when you can get a better OS[eg:Ubuntu] for FREE? Why pay/get for an OS, which is not easier to use? Why pay/get for an OS, when every/most apps is asking you for your email? Why pay/get for an OS, when every/most important apps is tracking you[only when it is reported, MS will take action, so when you are already been tracked, what is the use?]? Why pay/get for an OS, when all the customizations[most needed in MS OS] to be done by yourself/using another apps or tools [pay/free]?Waiting for a better OS from MS is my opinion.Finally, it's your wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nautilus Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Windows 8 is just a blank OS(even worst than any other free OS), if we don't use Microsoft ac in OS configurations. & touch sreen.Think people: Ask Yourself these Q's:Why pay/get for a bank OS, when you can get a better OS[eg:Ubuntu] for FREE? Why pay/get for an OS, which is not easier to use? Why pay/get for an OS, when every/most apps is asking you for your email? Why pay/get for an OS, when every/most important apps is tracking you[only when it is reported, MS will take action, so when you are already been tracked, what is the use?]? Why pay/get for an OS, when all the customizations[most needed in MS OS] to be done by yourself/using another apps or tools [pay/free]? It's entirely up to the individual. If you like it, go for it. If not, don't. There are thousands of people on either side of the argument. Bottom line: It's up to you..I just don't see a point in constant bashing of Windows 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olexijl Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I just don't see a point in constant bashing of Windows 8You got the point.Win8 is not good for you:* if you wanna have a startmenu and GUI unchanged* if you wanna have "easy to use" system with an eyepoint layed on compatibility* if you wanna play games* if you wanna reliable system without any issues (stable system)Win8 is good for you:* if you own a smartphone* if you wanna use apps you know from smartphone* if you are able to figure out the entire depth of a new concept of using system* if you are creative* if you wanna try something new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marik Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Nightmare? Are you sure?well let's just put it this way between an OS that spies on you and allows m$ to remove apps as they please via the killswitch, turns on w/e services you decide to be set to manual or disabled and does whatever the hell it pleases, yes, I'd take my chances with something else. you talked about it having depth...what depth? seriously, what depth? Even some developers hate it. it's just a mobile OS that has a desktop ver slapped to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vissha Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 it's just a mobile OS that has a desktop ver slapped to itEDIT: Its just a Mobile OS that has a Incomplete Desktop ver slapped to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nautilus Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Nightmare? Are you sure?well let's just put it this waybetween an OS that spies on you and allows m$ to remove apps as they please via the killswitch, turns on w/e services you decide to be set to manual or disabled and does whatever the hell it pleases, yes, I'd take my chances with something else.you talked about it having depth...what depth?seriously, what depth? Even some developers hate it.it's just a mobile OS that has a desktop ver slapped to itAs soon as you connect to the internet and use your mobile phone you can kiss your privacy good bye :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nIGHT Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Olexijl, on 28 Jan 2013 - 04:06, said:I just don't see a point in constant bashing of Windows 8You got the point.Win8 is not good for you:* if you wanna have a startmenu and GUI unchanged* if you wanna have "easy to use" system with an eyepoint layed on compatibility* if you wanna play games* if you wanna reliable system without any issues (stable system)Most average people purchase and use their pc for1. surfing2. chatting/voice and video communication/social networking3. playing music and watching movies4. playing games5. to increase their productivity, may it be office work, editing multimedia(picture, video, music) filesand software/hardware stuff (design/programming/testing) or simply doing their hobby.1, 2 and 3 are actually present and being used in almost all OS like linux-based OSes, OS X and even android OS,.List number 4 is what gives windows a leverage over its competitors. So many games only runs on windows platform and now it won't in windows 8.Linux was given new drivers from amd ati and nvidia, and steam is pumping a lot of their games into that OS. Micro$oft now has a serious competitor in the desktop gaming platform. They should be very worry.List number 5 is what business and average users including students have in common; The OS fasten and increase user productivity and make things easy for the user to accomplish his/her task. This "reinvention of the GUI" seems to decrease user productivity and causes a lot of stress than to make it quite easy to use.Ease of Use and Accessibility (not the icon thing!) were once been one of the most useful (most promoted) feature for average users, as this represent the entirety of windows OS objective as an easy to use and easy to navigate system .It's easy to customize windows UI to your liking with your settings being able to port easily to a more recent version of the OS. But with the current "reinvention" of the GUI, I guess they forget all this scalability that makes windows a more attractive OS compared to its competitors.Micro$oft may think their users has no other option but to use their OSes with unwelcomed changes with it. Linux-based OSes and Android OS are now catching up and are now fit to do what Windows can do. May it be editing and viewing multimedia, playing games and doing productive office and homework stuff can also be done under these OSes. They might loose the support of their users soon faster than I think will be.Olexijl, on 28 Jan 2013 - 04:06, said:Win8 is good for you:* if you own a smartphone* if you wanna use apps you know from smartphone* if you are able to figure out the entire depth of a new concept of using system* if you are creative* if you wanna try something newMicro$oft trying to become iphone or android again? wew!Then go for android OS for its now the most portable, scalable and popular OS there is now.These qualities used to be in Windows ,but with all the RTM-OEM-Secure boot-GUID partition stuff, they had remove these nice qualities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nIGHT Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 well let's just put it this way between an OS that spies on you and allows m$ to remove apps as they please via the killswitch, turns on w/e services you decide to be set to manual or disabled and does whatever the hell it pleases, yes, I'd take my chances with something else. you talked about it having depth...what depth? seriously, what depth? Even some developers hate it. it's just a mobile OS that has a desktop ver slapped to itEDIT: Its just a Mobile OS that has a Incomplete Desktop ver slapped to itAs soon as you connect to the internet and use your mobile phone you can kiss your privacy good bye :)Were in control of our system in android and their windows 8 just replicate the android ecosystem, so what Micro$oft has to do to convince us to use their system than the more popular and easier to use Android OS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ande Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 It's just a fu'ing tool.Many people worship their machines, it's, kinda, reverse evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vissha Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 All WIndows 8 Apps don't get updates after some days of Windows Blue launch. And you have to use only buggy version if you use after that time. Please take a note of it.Now tell me Is Windows 8 good for using apps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezza Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 @visshaYour all consuming obsession and hatred of windows 8 cannot be good for your health.Are you seriously now telling us you can see into the future ("All WIndows 8 Apps don't get updates after some days of Windows Blue launch") and telling us of problems with windows Blue?Win8 is only an o/s bud, so please uninstall immediately or seek professional help. :P :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 All WIndows 8 Apps don't get updates after some days of Windows Blue launch. And you have to use only buggy version if you use after that time. Please take a note of it.I think tezza has addressed this insanity, quite adequately. :sNow tell me Is Windows 8 good for using apps?Any :pirate: who uses apps on Windows 8 needs to fix up an appointment with the Shrink. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vissha Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 @visshaYour all consuming obsession and hatred of windows 8 cannot be good for your health.Are you seriously now telling us you can see into the future ("All WIndows 8 Apps don't get updates after some days of Windows Blue launch") and telling us of problems with windows Blue?Win8 is only an o/s bud, so please uninstall immediately or seek professional help. :P :DIt'll be good for my health since its just not me: No of users like Windows 8 is very much lesser than Windows 7.See the thing which i said is not said by me and its not new. Its already been said by the Id**t Ballmer, but reportedly Windows 8 Apps might work on Windows Blue, but there won't be any new Apps/updates to use, if people don't want Windows Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted January 29, 2013 Administrator Share Posted January 29, 2013 See the thing which i said is not said by me and its not new. Its already been said by the Id**t Ballmer, but reportedly Windows 8 Apps might work on Windows Blue, but there won't be any new Apps/updates to use, if people don't want Windows Blue.I cover a lot of news, but that's news to me.Actually what you say is not possible. Cause these Windows 8 apps are written in very normal languages like C, C++, VB.NET, C#, along with HTML5 and JavaScript and Microsoft will still keep Metro Apps and Windows Store. So I'm not sure how anything would have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marik Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 off-topic but I liked the doc emotiocon tezza posted so much I added it :doctor: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olexijl Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Well, i am trying to think on more global scale. We see now a new birth of a child from a marriage of traditional Desktop based system with a Mobile OS based system. A child is currently very unusual to use -_-The Desktop is now only just one of 2 possible ways to use the system. However when you leave the Desktop to run an app from the Store, you are giving control to MS what can be installed on the system (in a way MS can control what is published in a Store).I dunno if MS really wants to become Google... if they really work it out, maybe it will even work....Currently, my experience, is that most apps are badly programmed. Or better say, they would better work on touch, not in a mouse environment. But i found really good apps in a Store too, so i think it is interesting to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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