Administrator DKT27 Posted October 24, 2012 Administrator Share Posted October 24, 2012 With Windows 8 about to hit, sources close to Microsoft's Service Pack build team are suggesting that Service Pack 1 for Windows 7 will not be succeeded by Service Pack 2. When a new operating system comes around, most people eagerly wait for the release. Once it’s in the wild, lots of us go with the early adoption approach and use the OS from day one. In the case of Windows, a lot of businesses are reluctant to adopt until the first service pack (SP). But now it seems like Windows 7’s first SP is to be it’s only one, with sources close to Microsoft’s sustained engineering team (the guys and gals that build and release SPs) saying there are no plans for a second Windows 7 SP. This breaks Microsoft’s normal product update cycle as SP2 for Windows 7 has had no mention, even in rumour. Not that Microsoft won’t support and patch Windows 7; Patch Tuesday and zero day vulnerabilities will be actioned as normal for the OS, at least until support for Windows 7 SP1 ends in February 2013, 24 months after its release. Windows 7 as an OS will still be supported until 2020. But all a SP is, is a compilation of all the individual Patch Tuesday updates in one handy package, up to a certain date. But they have proved to be a pain for Microsoft as they take up engineers’ time and budget away from building new versions of the Windows OS. Not that the SP isn’t without merit. Aaron Suzuki chief executive of desktop management and deployment specialist SmartDeploy, gives his take on the SP: The usefulness of a service pack is it lets you roll up that [updates and fixes] into a build for an operating system, so you can flip a switch and not worry about performing 50 to 80 updates that take up hundreds of megabytes. With Windows 8 launching on Friday, it’s to be expected that Microsoft will focus all their efforts in convincing Windows 7 users that Windows 8 is the right way to go, rather than using an older OS, no matter how established it is. But look at it this way; even Windows Vista got a SP2. View: Original Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0veR Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Fags! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurobyn Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 stupid engineers @microsoft.how stupid can you be to not make a better version.only new os wil make people think i go for a mac.stupid thinking within microsoft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3C0N Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Arrr... I won't update to Windows 8 and stick with Windows 7 x64 plus Windows XP on the older PC's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamkutopolowk Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 WHY NOT SPTWO :pos: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marke68 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 only new os wil make people think i go for a mac. Yeah like everyone in the world who didn't like Vista suddenly bought an idiotically over priced Mac,yep that's what happened in Narnia. All the Win8 bashing by certain posters on this site is getting pretty tedious now,we get it,you don't like Win8 so you have no need to repeat it ad nauseum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambrocious Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Weird...I don't understand all of that above but maybe someone should look into that. Plus it may need to be moved to another thread of it's own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hottwire Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 wow ^^^ maybe in future you could post that to pastebin and link it instead?? thats a lot of mess if someone doesn't want to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demoneye Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 WTF concept????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurobyn Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 only new os wil make people think i go for a mac. Yeah like everyone in the world who didn't like Vista suddenly bought an idiotically over priced Mac,yep that's what happened in Narnia. All the Win8 bashing by certain posters on this site is getting pretty tedious now,we get it,you don't like Win8 so you have no need to repeat it ad nauseum.who says that i do not like windows 8 ? i love it. as a power user i can work w everything. i just see what happens with the normal user not needing it. they better make a os that works , then make each year a new os. without the problems arise each time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 i think this is the normal bullshit that comes when a company needs to sell new things.... they tend to disregard the old ones...its impossible to only get a service pack.... so many patches in the future... this is another bullshit reason to sell the new windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2ms Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I think there wasn't going to be a SP2 for vista either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyon275 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Bastards... :angry: Windows 8 is crap , never gonna switch to it -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee.pee Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Why do you need a SP2 ?If you update your copy every time it's needed, you're still up-to-date and a big patch isn't necessary. .... except if you have to format and reinstall all your Windows !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted October 25, 2012 Author Administrator Share Posted October 25, 2012 Why do you need a SP2 ? If you update your copy every time it's needed, you're still up-to-date and a big patch isn't necessary. .... except if you have to format and reinstall all your Windows !! There are about a GB of Windows Updates released after SP1, if not more. No computer maker, atleast here in India, is going to install Windows 8 on their customer's PC atleast for next 2 years. You can't expect people to download GBs of just updates, that, are hell to install. Like, there are some updates, that won't be available, until you install particular updates first. The list continues. Installing SP2 update can done within a half hour or so, with hardly one or two restart, in opposite to installing Windows Updates one after another, it's just madness. One may argue about slip-streaming, but general users are not aware how to do it. One can always use already slip-streamed releases, but why do we need a third party ISO in the first place? The real question is, why Microsoft can't release SP2? Does it want users to not to use Windows 7? Isn't it Microsoft's responsibility to look after it's child? Why wash your hands like this. Sure, they will provide general updates via Windows Updates, but MS, in no way, lack engineers to pack all the updates into one and release it. In addition, there are still some Windows bugs that MS refuses to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambrocious Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 In the words of Spock, this is highly illogical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marke68 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 only new os wil make people think i go for a mac. Yeah like everyone in the world who didn't like Vista suddenly bought an idiotically over priced Mac,yep that's what happened in Narnia. All the Win8 bashing by certain posters on this site is getting pretty tedious now,we get it,you don't like Win8 so you have no need to repeat it ad nauseum.who says that i do not like windows 8 ? i love it. as a power user i can work w everything. i just see what happens with the normal user not needing it. they better make a os that works , then make each year a new os. without the problems arise each time. The part about "not liking Win8" wasn't aimed at you,it was aimed at the tedious individuals who insist on informing everyone how much they dislike Win8 on practically every thread that mentions Win8 in its title. I despise Apple but don't feel the need to jump on any Apple related thread to inform people of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preso Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 that's all the updates for win 7 ??? hhmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted October 29, 2012 Author Administrator Share Posted October 29, 2012 that's all the updates for win 7 ??? hhmmm.... Windows 7 will get updates for like 2016 or something. But not any update packages like SPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 It's my 2 cents that Microsoft have propagated this hype just so as to promote Windows 8. The fundamentals of a SP (Service Pack) is nothing but to offer a single consolidated installer in redistributable form when the number of independent Windows updates get too fragmented and unmanageable. So, will Microsoft succeed in balking from deploying SP-2 - no way, consumers will not allow that (Windows XP bears testimony to that fact - with special reference to it's EOL.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal X Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 To be honest when I heard about this it really pissed me off <_< -_- but what can I do about it. Valid reason for being upset; most fresh installs of Windows 7 SP1 have to do 125+ updates every fresh install that is done at least up til now. More updates means more fresh installs then more updates.Service Packs allow to make updates reduced during an fresh install enabling the user not to wait such a long time to continue..This is quite frustrating for techs at least me I guess. Unless, I make an acronis image of Win 7 SP1 will all updates., 32 bit and 64 bit images and that fixes my issue :/ temporarily or unless someone makes a compressed version of Windows AIO :showoff: I am sure someone can make a open source SP2 since MS is too lazy to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiLmEgZ Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Why do you need a SP2 ? If you update your copy every time it's needed, you're still up-to-date and a big patch isn't necessary. .... except if you have to format and reinstall all your Windows !! 100% TRUE! I always use a Windows 7 DVD w/ SP1 integrated into it because the stand-alone package just takes way too fucking long to install for my tastes anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal X Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Well this is a temp solution for now :) http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7715849/Windows_7_SP1_AIO_11in1_x64_x86_IE9_.NET_4.5_Oct10_2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preso Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 that's all the updates for win 7 ??? hhmmm.... Windows 7 will get updates for like 2016 or something. But not any update packages like SPs. Thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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