knowledge-Spammer Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I just got a notice about 28 days remaining on my trial :(Using MPT fixi say thats two but people think i wos mad and got funny with me about it //www.nsaneforums.com/topic/207272-diskeeper-professional-2012-16010170-fixed/page-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kien_vip Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 why i dont get any notice? every thing still working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofre Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 It works indeed. Only there is a small window that appears sometimes over Windows clock, telling us to go to homepage for to buy the software because this is a trial version. MPT was not able to make this to disappear, but it`s not very important. Already advanced date 2 years and I didn`t see messages saying trial was over.Just had to install diskeeper and applied patch same directory where was installed. Better wait ( it works a bit slow) till the window appears , apply the patch, then wait a bit ( 1 minute ? )-( is slow as already said ) and it`s done.Windows 7 (x64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 It works indeed. Only there is a small window that appears sometimes over Windows clock, telling us to go to homepage for to buy the software because this is a trial version. MPT was not able to make this to disappear, but it`s not very important. Already advanced date 2 years and I dont saw messages saying trial was over.Windows 7 (x64)i did say yesday i think its not working 100% but people got mad that so i stoped comment as people think i am mad it works on some and not for all users i have bin playin with it and it somewhat works just not 100%in two days ill tell u if its workin or not my trial ends soon so i have patched it now and if it do stop working in twodays ill let u no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofre Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Also takes to long to start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazigh Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 It works indeed. Only there is a small window that appears sometimes over Windows clock, telling us to go to homepage for to buy the software because this is a trial version. MPT was not able to make this to disappear, but it`s not very important. Already advanced date 2 years and I dont saw messages saying trial was over.Just had to install diskeeper and applied patch same directory where was installed. Better wait ( it works a bit slow) till the window appears , apply the patch, then wait a bit ( 1 minute ? )-( is slow as already said ) and it`s done.Windows 7 (x64)I think for this issues firewall was made ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.pan Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Good day all...I tried perfect disk and Diskeeper and they both degraded my Samsung pro 128gb SSD......Just thought ya want a know that programs like these just dont do good for SSD.....Other Programs Consolidate Free SpaceWe previously mentioned that cells on an SSD must be erased before they’re written to. This can be a problem — a single cell contains multiple writable pages. If the drive needs to add additional data to a partially empty cell, the cell must be read, erased, and the modified data written back to the cell. If files are scattered all over your drive and every cell is partially empty, writing some data will result in a huge amount of read-erase-write operations, slowing down write operations. This shows up as an SSD’s performance decreasing as it fills up.Solid-state drives have controllers that run firmware, which is a kind of low-level software. This firmware handles all the SSD’s low-level tasks, including consolidating free space when the drive reaches a certain level of capacity, ensuring that there are plenty of empty cells instead of many partially empty cells. (Of course, there must be free space to consolidate — you should always leave a good chunk of space empty on your SSD.)Some optimization programs claim they’ll consolidate free space by moving data around on your solid-state drive with an intelligent algorithm. In a world where this was possible, the results of this would vary from drive to drive. Some firmwares may wait too long before using their own free space consolidation process. Benchmarks run of solid-state free space consolidation utilities against different firmwares would likely show inconsistent results, as the difference will depend on how good a job each drive’s firmware was doing. In general, a drive’s firmware would probably do a decent enough job that you wouldn’t need to run an optimization program that does this for you. Such programs will also result in additional writes — if a drive waits too long, it may do so to minimize the amount of writes to the drive. it’s a trade-off between free space consolidation and write avoidance.However, there’s another catch here: The drive controller itself handles the mapping of physical cells on the SSD to logical sectors presented to the operating system. Only the SSD controller really knows where the cells are located. It’s possible that the drive might present logical sectors to the operating system that may be next to each other for the operating system’s purposes, but far away from each other on the actual physical SSD. For this reason, using any sort of software program to consolidate free space is likely a bad idea — the program doesn’t really know what’s going on behind the SSD controller.This will all vary from drive to drive and firmware to firmware. Some firmwares may present sectors to the operating system in a way that maps to how they appear on the other drive, while aggressive optimizations on other drives may result in very large distances between sectors on the main drive. There may be some drives with controllers that present the sectors how they appear on the drive and with bad free space consolidation algorithms — such third-party tools may work well on such drives, but don’t count on it.The Verdict: Your SSD is already consolidating free space for you. It’s likely doing a much better job than a software program that can’t see what’s really going on on your drive would do. Such programs will likely just waste your computer’s resources and wear down the SSD.Other Programs Consolidate Free SpaceWe previously mentioned that cells on an SSD must be erased before they’re written to. This can be a problem — a single cell contains multiple writable pages. If the drive needs to add additional data to a partially empty cell, the cell must be read, erased, and the modified data written back to the cell. If files are scattered all over your drive and every cell is partially empty, writing some data will result in a huge amount of read-erase-write operations, slowing down write operations. This shows up as an SSD’s performance decreasing as it fills up.Solid-state drives have controllers that run firmware, which is a kind of low-level software. This firmware handles all the SSD’s low-level tasks, including consolidating free space when the drive reaches a certain level of capacity, ensuring that there are plenty of empty cells instead of many partially empty cells. (Of course, there must be free space to consolidate — you should always leave a good chunk of space empty on your SSD.)Some optimization programs claim they’ll consolidate free space by moving data around on your solid-state drive with an intelligent algorithm. In a world where this was possible, the results of this would vary from drive to drive. Some firmwares may wait too long before using their own free space consolidation process. Benchmarks run of solid-state free space consolidation utilities against different firmwares would likely show inconsistent results, as the difference will depend on how good a job each drive’s firmware was doing. In general, a drive’s firmware would probably do a decent enough job that you wouldn’t need to run an optimization program that does this for you. Such programs will also result in additional writes — if a drive waits too long, it may do so to minimize the amount of writes to the drive. it’s a trade-off between free space consolidation and write avoidance.However, there’s another catch here: The drive controller itself handles the mapping of physical cells on the SSD to logical sectors presented to the operating system. Only the SSD controller really knows where the cells are located. It’s possible that the drive might present logical sectors to the operating system that may be next to each other for the operating system’s purposes, but far away from each other on the actual physical SSD. For this reason, using any sort of software program to consolidate free space is likely a bad idea — the program doesn’t really know what’s going on behind the SSD controller.This will all vary from drive to drive and firmware to firmware. Some firmwares may present sectors to the operating system in a way that maps to how they appear on the other drive, while aggressive optimizations on other drives may result in very large distances between sectors on the main drive. There may be some drives with controllers that present the sectors how they appear on the drive and with bad free space consolidation algorithms — such third-party tools may work well on such drives, but don’t count on it.The Verdict: Your SSD is already consolidating free space for you. It’s likely doing a much better job than a software program that can’t see what’s really going on on your drive would do. Such programs will likely just waste your computer’s resources and wear down the SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSlayer Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I would go for hybrid instead of SSD. Almost the same performance and much cheaper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.pan Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I would go for hybrid instead of SSD. Almost the same performance and much cheaper...Ya but you can gat a top notch SSD now a days 128gb for 120 bucks and can last ya up to 10 years.....iv got the best performance SSD in the 128gb category and didnt pay more then 120 dollars for it ...... http://www.hardware-revolution.com/best-ssd-best-hard-drive-january-2014/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyy Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 @Knowledge, I installed Diskeeper 12 ,with the MPT patch, a couple of days ago. It worked from the start, but on the second day I got a pop-up message saying "43 days left-trialware". I'm gonna try the new crack and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSlayer Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Guys, Diskeeper is bad, in a general way: I had 100% disk activity on 2 of my 3 hard disks, not to mention the absurdly high temperatures, around 51c to 59c, all the time, idle state included.I decided to uninstall Diskeeper to see if he was the one causing this mess, and guess what: It really was him!Wihout Diskeeper running on my system, the hard disk activity is back to normal, and the temperature dropped are around 31c to 33c.I give up from Diskeeper, because as you can see, 100% disk activity results into a massive slowdown overall. Not to mention the high temperature, which can physically damage a hard drive.I am trying Ashampoo Defrag 3, which is a part of Ashampoo WinOptimizer 10. It has a totally configurable Pro-Active defrag, and work pretty much the same way as Diskeeper. Up until now, it is doing a very good, without high disk activity and high temperatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viggen66 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Guys, Diskeeper is bad, in a general way: I had 100% disk activity on 2 of my 3 hard disks, not to mention the absurdly high temperatures, around 51c to 59c, all the time, idle state included.I decided to uninstall Diskeeper to see if he was the one causing this mess, and guess what: It really was him!Wihout Diskeeper running on my system, the hard disk activity is back to normal, and the temperature dropped are around 31c to 33c.I give up from Diskeeper, because as you can see, 100% disk activity results into a massive slowdown overall. Not to mention the high temperature, which can physically damage a hard drive.I am trying Ashampoo Defrag 3, which is a part of Ashampoo WinOptimizer 10. It has a totally configurable Pro-Active defrag, and work pretty much the same way as Diskeeper. Up until now, it is doing a very good, without high disk activity and high temperatures.Ashampoo Defrag hasn't been update since 2010, for me Diskeeper 2012 is best program out there, please remember that DK 2012, within the first week on installation is optimizing your files, hence the continuous use of HDD, after that, it resumes to the idle state, where your HDD barely runs, it's just a matter of time, it also prevents I/O usage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSlayer Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Guys, Diskeeper is bad, in a general way: I had 100% disk activity on 2 of my 3 hard disks, not to mention the absurdly high temperatures, around 51c to 59c, all the time, idle state included.I decided to uninstall Diskeeper to see if he was the one causing this mess, and guess what: It really was him!Wihout Diskeeper running on my system, the hard disk activity is back to normal, and the temperature dropped are around 31c to 33c.I give up from Diskeeper, because as you can see, 100% disk activity results into a massive slowdown overall. Not to mention the high temperature, which can physically damage a hard drive.I am trying Ashampoo Defrag 3, which is a part of Ashampoo WinOptimizer 10. It has a totally configurable Pro-Active defrag, and work pretty much the same way as Diskeeper. Up until now, it is doing a very good, without high disk activity and high temperatures.Ashampoo Defrag hasn't been update since 2010, for me Diskeeper 2012 is best program out there, please remember that DK 2012, within the first week on installation is optimizing your files, hence the continuous use of HDD, after that, it resumes to the idle state, where your HDD barely runs, it's just a matter of time, it also prevents I/O usageI was using Diskeeper 15.0.968 for at least 6 months, so it has nothing to do with a heavy load, because it was not a fresh install.I am not talking about Ashampoo Magical Defrag 3, which is from 2010. I am talking about Defrag 3, which is a component from the latest Ashampoo WinOptimizer 10.It appears to be from 2013. In options > about, it says: Defragmentation Technology: 2005 - 2013. So, the last update was on 2013, am I wrong?Give it try, you will be surprised, I know that I am... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viggen66 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Guys, Diskeeper is bad, in a general way: I had 100% disk activity on 2 of my 3 hard disks, not to mention the absurdly high temperatures, around 51c to 59c, all the time, idle state included.I decided to uninstall Diskeeper to see if he was the one causing this mess, and guess what: It really was him!Wihout Diskeeper running on my system, the hard disk activity is back to normal, and the temperature dropped are around 31c to 33c.I give up from Diskeeper, because as you can see, 100% disk activity results into a massive slowdown overall. Not to mention the high temperature, which can physically damage a hard drive.I am trying Ashampoo Defrag 3, which is a part of Ashampoo WinOptimizer 10. It has a totally configurable Pro-Active defrag, and work pretty much the same way as Diskeeper. Up until now, it is doing a very good, without high disk activity and high temperatures.Ashampoo Defrag hasn't been update since 2010, for me Diskeeper 2012 is best program out there, please remember that DK 2012, within the first week on installation is optimizing your files, hence the continuous use of HDD, after that, it resumes to the idle state, where your HDD barely runs, it's just a matter of time, it also prevents I/O usageI was using Diskeeper 15.0.968 for at least 6 months, so it has nothing to do with a heavy load, because it was not a fresh install.I am not talking about Ashampoo Magical Defrag 3, which is from 2010. I am talking about Defrag 3, which is a component from the latest Ashampoo WinOptimizer 10.It appears to be from 2013. In options > about, it says: Defragmentation Technology: 2005 - 2013. So, the last update was on 2013, am I wrong?Give it try, you will be surprised, I know that I am...Never tried this software, so I'm navigating on fresh waters, but Windows has also its desfragmenting software, and Ashampoo if it prevents fragmentation is also good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSlayer Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 It does, it does have a Pro-Active Defrag method. I will let it running here, since I have heavy P2P use, fragmentation will surely happen.Lets see how it will handle with it. Better than Diskeeper has, I hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viggen66 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I have never had any warning of popup, of trial reseting, so this crack is finally working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kien_vip Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I have never had any warning of popup, of trial reseting, so this crack is finally workingit 'll appear in few days, let waiting... i also got popup :showoff: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viggen66 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Still nothing I guess because I'm using the 32 bit edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viggen66 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Good news, this patch also works for DK 2012 Home Edition :), since this edition doesn't have Free space consolidation, for me is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viggen66 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Today I had the pop-up of trial days left, it really doesn't matter to me, does it work after the count down? If it does the patch is excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Today I had the pop-up of trial days left, it really doesn't matter to me, does it work after the count down? If it does the patch is excellentwood not be smart two let the days go two 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viggen66 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Knowledge have your days count to zero, does it work afterwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Knowledge have your days count to zero, does it work afterwards?i will not let my days go two zero, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viggen66 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 I have advanced my date to 6 months ahead and manual defrag still works, so the only thing missing from this patch are the popups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kien_vip Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 my trial popup appear 2-3 days and then disappear up to now :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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