nsane.forums Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 So far it seems that Microsoft has avoided answering the many comments on how desktop users will benefit from Windows 8 over Windows 7, which leads me to thinking: Is Windows 8 really my idea?We all remember the "I'm a PC and Windows 7 was my idea" initiative from Microsoft, it was promoted extensively around the world. But what about Windows 8; is that really my idea?From reviewing the past few screenshot leaks and blog posts from the Building Windows 8 blog, I'm not so sure. As of yet there hasn't been an announcement by Steve Sinofsky on the removal of the start orb. Other recent posts like power management are encouraging, even if they appear to favour handheld devices such as tablets over a traditional PC. I also haven't seen any evidence on how the desktop experience has been improved over Windows 7, aside from the addition of a ribbon and, again, wonderful for touch input, the dragging of folders to a location in the address bar in Explorer. If only that was in Windows 7!Let's also not forget dragging Metro apps down to the bottom of the screen is also great for tablets, but what about closing them on a desktop with the traditional close button?Whoop, no Start orb for you!The Metro user interface is obviously geared toward touch screens and devices with limited screen space, a concept that works very well on Windows Phone 7 due to the screen size. But when it comes to traditional desktops with screens in excess of 21" and in many cases multiple displays, all we're going to see here is a massive grid of applications on what used to be the Windows Desktop; and now the start orb has been removed in favour of some pop out that is obviously designed for finger pointing.Good for touch devices, not so for traditional PCs.Yes, we know we can switch back to the desktop and that it'll be the hub for traditional tasks such as file management and legacy applications; I say legacy because from what I can see, legacy apps will probably all end up as Metro apps that can be launched from the Start Panel, and eventually the desktop will not be needed at all, just like on a Windows Phone.I like having a taskbar that shows the applications that are currently running complemented with the notifications area, and the management tools that go with it. I also like feeling that the Desktop is "home" or the Start Screen if you will.Back when Windows 7 was in testing, I asked why the "Superbar" wouldn't be extended to a second or 3rd screen (there is a shareware app or alternatives that do this well), and the response from Microsoft was that users would get confused with the taskbar being on more than one screen. It could have been a power user option, but no.Now with Metro, the grid spans as many screens as you have: Happy hunting for that app in a year's time when your grid goes on forever! And moreso, on a laptop with a small screen without touch capability. Good luck using the Metro Start Panel unless you know what you're searching for.To me, Microsoft should have designed a SKU specifically for touch devices and tablets, and a version for the traditional desktop that can possibly make use of the touch features with an add-on pack or simple change of "Windows Features" that can be turned on or off. Instead it feels like Microsoft is putting their eggs all in one basket, with the expectation that in maybe two or three years time everything will be "touch."This seems wrong.Now where did I leave that app?Now we appear to have stepped backward to a two dimensional design that allows you to scroll endlessly left and right if you have enough pinned on the Start Panel, really emulating the Windows 7 Phone.A desktop as a giant Windows Phone, with features that are clearly there for touch input, on a desktop.So is Windows 8 really my idea? From what I've seen so far, no. I guess we'll find out on February 29th, and I'm still willing to be proven wrong. View: Original Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosticles Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I'm a PC and sticking with Windows 7 was my idea :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudboy Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I'll dual boot and give it a shot. I know the dev preview booted in a fraction of the time that Win7 does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I think they've been watching 'Minority Report' a bit too much. Who can work at speed (or at all) for a long period when you have to reach up to a screen constantly - unless you've got arms like big Arnie?A mouse is still the best, fastest and more accurate user interface device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedal0 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I am a PC,and stick to Windows 7 will be my advice :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberber Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I'm also Dual Boot and I'll dual boot and test it it should be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowx Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Stick together team :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcs18 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I'm a PC and Windows 7 is my idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganxxta Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Well I'll test the Beta, if the disabling of the touch and metro crap is easy and doable than I give win 8 a shot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.himanshuabc Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusperX Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Windows 8 is supposed to be able to run Xbox360 games, so yeah, that's their promotion for Win8. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted February 10, 2012 Administrator Share Posted February 10, 2012 Windows 8 is supposed to be able to run Xbox360 games, so yeah, that's their promotion for Win8. :)Nope. It won't. It will only have the Xbox live compatibility or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusperX Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 There is the rumor going on cause Gears of War 3 on the M$ site says it's a multiplatform title.So they're probably up to something. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted February 10, 2012 Administrator Share Posted February 10, 2012 They'll port it then. Practically, it's not possible for an Xbox game to run on Windows. They'll have to change the whole architecture, which I don't see on Windows 8. Windows 8 on desktop is more like giving a vanilla ice-cream a black forest flavor instead of blueberry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal X Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Windows 8 strategy is for ARM technology and tablet consumer market and for developers to continue making Java apps, I'm sticking with Windows 7 :showoff: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzyb0t Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I tell you what guys. I've been using Windows on a daily basis since Windows 3.1...But I held on for dear life, to Windows XP Professional for over 10 years (after months of fighting the change from Windows 2000 Professional-- which still may be my most favorite OS), until just last week when I bought a brand spaking new laptop that had Windows 7 Ultimate x64 pre-installed. At first my instinct was to balk at it, and change the visual settings to "basic" (aka Windows 2000 mode), just like I did when I very briefly tried Vista. But, Windows 7 is wonderful. Never thought I'd like it. Surprisingly, I do. I even turned back on the Aero interface. I like it better than even OS X Snow Leopard (never tried Lion) on my MacBook, and yes...even better than Windows XP :o . However, being a mouse and keyboard user for so long, I too, do not like Windows 8's "dummy" interface. They've jumped the shark, folks. It's way too gimicky for my tastes. Unfortunately, it's probably going to bring about the uprising of ARM processors, which in a few years will be more flexible, more powerful, faster, cooler, and more energy efficient than their x86 counterparts. I still want my start button, orb or whatever, hopefully there'll be a "legacy" interface for those of us who have been using computers for years and who want to bring that old school back, lol.In short, I'll probably be stucking with Windows 7 Ultimate x64 until Windows 10 comes out :lol:Edit: Everything better not be "touch", I have a hard enough time keeping my iPhone's screen clean, I can't imagine my computer screen being touch, it'd be a fucking diasaster. Just go look at those touch computers at Best Buy-- YUCK! :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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