Time limited Premium offers - Scam or not?

[SnakeMasteR]

In view of the occasion of the offer from bannedhost.to yesterday, do you think that e.g.

limited premium offers for 48 hrs were Scam (because you have to pay for extending

those accounts) or is it a fair campaign to acquire with luck new premium customers?

Is a demo or trial software also Scam after expiring or having functional limitations

after that period?

I hope you know what i mean, in case of bannedhost.to, you can use every eMail address,

there is no verification at all, only the validity is required, to be able to read the login

data, use it for the 48 hrs and never come back. Or on another day just use an different

eMail address and you are ready for the next 48 hrs offer.

What do you think? :lol:

[HX1]

In a way a scam.. in another a marketing strategy... BUT really everybody says ' Come look at my stuff.. best sh^t you ever put n your nose.. ' Just have to try it.. then your poisoned.. especially with that twinkle in your eye.. How and why the switch up? Whats the real end effect.. Do you really HAVE the NEED to be that boisterous about your product .. because it is so UNREMARKABLE... or are we just expecting more out of it in an effort for more, more, more? Lot of stuff like that laying around in my head... :rolleyes: :P

Personally speaking... as a general rule.. All 'Percent OFF', for a limited time only, Buy Now and save.. or get something ( especially with an accompanying contractual agreement ), register to win... 'FREE pr0n'... receive premium benefits, or general promises to fix widespread headaches or displeasing aspects with your undying financial support.. Package Deals.. ALL of these... have something they are hiding and there are usually only a few ways that the marketing, advertising, flyers, and cheaper prices while doing so actually winds up being profitable to a company.. There is only one way they can afford to do these things.. AND in many cases these supposed deals are actually scams and slight of hand by said entities.. as you may wind up even worse off or paying more in the long run than if you had just taken a straight run at the thing.. and known exactly what you were getting and ho much it was going to cost you..

Another.. like packing them in.. and then changing the terms of your services.. or guaranteed numbers..

Satellite dish companies and their services are a good example.. especially when one can afford the amount as advertised.. doesn't look into the fine print and then suddenly is burdened with costs that have almost tripled... Where ( the funny part ) if you just went and ordered exactly what you needed without the promotions.. you would have had a lower monthly payment without additional fees.. or charges.. which become solid after a month or 3 months that will be deducted from your credit card or added to your bill..( how many people notice small fluctuation at a time, especially when taken directly out of an account per month - and are slow to get it under wraps and how hard and much red tape does it take to put an end to it.. ) You would only have the equipment needed for the service you ordered..only have the channels you ordered.. ( you get the picture - without any surprises and you know exactly how much it is actually going to run you as they have trouble answering that question over the phone usually for some reason - probably knowing it ) which they can report as generated income for that quarter.. which looks like HUGE returns for someones campaign in the company...Juicing rep.. and another sort of promotion.. Generates interest and is usually passed on by word of mouth by people who have no idea and haven't even went down that road yet..

Need I mention cell phone promotions in the market? Department store ads?...Coupons? What does a company do to get their product in your hand and make you believe you are getting the best deal and service all around? How do you REALLY keep a customer...

SO end game is all the same as far as I am concerned... and IMO its not how you keep a customer... Paying a dollar a click is nice as truthfully.. It gets people looking for your product to your site.. BUT how do you hold on to that.. a solid clientelle baseline ..How do you REALLY keep a customer? Not by way of one method or the other or the water that rolls off of everyone's back .. something like ' Well.. it's just business..' No.. IMO.. Especially with the average everyday person lead by what they feel... and understand.. and the general idea that everything they do is for face value and not something else ( honesty ) Some of these methods are simply not the best methods of actually providing a service and being a realist about it.. as well as working for that increase.. and not looking for that something for nothing.. which is how everything these days seems to work .. to supposedly increase their value...

Relying on the 'I got you .. hahahahaha..'.. and the little idiocies that are observable vulnerabilities and methods to circumvent awareness to get a dollar.. Hustling.. ( almost like bragging ).. its short lived and sad enough as it may seem most do not care about it..There is a whole world full of people out there... by that time they will have moved on and the trajectory .. and forethought of the plan is only for the moment.. not the future.. really a hard thing to truthfully promote?.. not even.. Do people really think about the future or consider it.. and with a real grasp on these things ( which would be rare ).. What have they decided to do about it or address it.. What drives that? Why... because all of those sign-up fees and charges can be more profitable than a rolling monthly payment which is only paying for the services they need..( in a competitive market - where the costs of providing some services/products only become more costly and obsolete, where one would think eventually the life of an investment would last longer and outlive startup fees and investment before as much - which is usually financed, another effect or move in another area is the way to go or succeed ) The extras and the rotation revolving customer jumping from place to place generates more revenue... without that investment and is one way to offset it.. So you seed it with something.. bounce them around.. while the money just keeps falling out of their pockets.. ( what a business model :P ) That is if you can keep those operational costs to a minimum.. ( another reason why company reps are clueless.. ) .. and why when you run the numbers it makes complete sense... The rate of the revenue.. and what a company needs for certain things.. ( besides that more money is always good.. ) but it has come down to the only thing that can be done .. thus far.. next to suing someone...

Everyone really is a slave to trying to offset and overcome a situation of half-wit failure.. A machine built on something that doesn't exist...Can you afford it? ..and are you really going to get the best... or just another dated item.. your over confident in.. that you'll pay 3 times its actual value for?

[AlienForce1]

In view of the occasion of the offer from bannedhost.to yesterday, do you think that e.g.

limited premium offers for 48 hrs were Scam (because you have to pay for extending

those accounts) or is it a fair campaign to acquire with luck new premium customers?

Is a demo or trial software also Scam after expiring or having functional limitations

after that period?

I hope you know what i mean, in case of bannedhost.to, you can use every eMail address,

there is no verification at all, only the validity is required, to be able to read the login

data, use it for the 48 hrs and never come back. Or on another day just use an different

eMail address and you are ready for the next 48 hrs offer.

What do you think? :lol:

On july, 20 there was another ``great deal from bannedhost.to`` posted by a member :( of nsane.forums -> I was also stupid enough to not read the fine print on that ``offer`` from bannedhost.to -> that is really a SCAM , not marketing ! why ? because they are sure that almost no-one will notice that the offer is for only 48hrs and the great majority of the people don`t read TOS (ex.: when we install a software usually we push `Next`, `Next`...to final step...) .

For sure they certainly succeeded in my case something - I have turned into their opponent , an anti-advertising agent for their company ! :angry:

This is not `` a fair campaign to acquire with luck new premium customers`` - because the offer was ``free premium account for bannedhost.to`` - the fact that is for only 48hrs was in the fine print only ...

Anyway , as we say here ``a kick in the butt is another step ahead`` ... <_<

[SnakeMasteR]

On july, 20 there was another ``great deal from bannedhost.to`` posted by a member :( of nsane.forums -> I was also stupid enough to not read the fine print on that ``offer`` from bannedhost.to -> that is really a SCAM , not marketing ! why ? because they are sure that almost no-one will notice that the offer is for only 48hrs and the great majority of the people don`t read TOS (ex.: when we install a software usually we push `Next`, `Next`...to final step...) .

For sure they certainly succeeded in my case something - I have turned into their opponent , an anti-advertising agent for their company ! :angry:

This is not `` a fair campaign to acquire with luck new premium customers`` - because the offer was ``free premium account for bannedhost.to`` - the fact that is for only 48hrs was in the fine print only ...

Anyway , as we say here ``a kick in the butt is another step ahead`` ... <_<

As i mentioned some days ago, after you entered a valid email adress you get a

information mail, in this mail they point you to the 48 hrs account activation. I`m

using that offers often with hushmail, if you don`t read your emails carefully and

don`t see that limitation and say after that you haven`t seen that and declare it

therefore as scam, i think you should read every TOS and eMails more carefully.

Also you can extend this account anytime to a premium one. You simply don`t

like uploaded, i think, there is everything scam what they offer. :lol:

Not reading TOS and eMails carefully is no scam (not for me).. ;)

[grouchysmurf]

I am one of those people that try to read the fine print before I give out any of my info.

A couple of rules I always follow on "trial" software:

1. If I am required to install other items..eg. toolbars or some sort of driver..I pass.
2. If more info is required of me than I am willing to give, I pass.
3. If the setup requires holes in my security, I pass.

Now, this is just MY way of handling it. Some say it is too strict, but it works for me.

Also, I will never take the time to download and install something that is only good for 48 hours.

I need more time to "play" with something before I can tell if I like it.

To me, a scam is when someone deliberately lies to you about one thing, and the whole time they set you

up for something else.

Marketing practices are meant to grab your attention with lots of eye candy and flashy ideas that "you just can't do with out".

Anti-virus software has been doing it for years. I think next to porn, the securities business is the largest money maker on the web.

Followed by ebay, amazon, and other direct marketing sites.

It has been a very long time since I actually needed anything for my system, game wise or productivity..

So, for me to try something, it is purely for research now.

If it sounds too good to be true.....it probably is.

[HX1]

...If it sounds too good to be true.....it probably is.

Now that i agree with.. especially after years of combing over the software.. and using them extensively... and after these programs and the skills of these people improving so that most applications are quite capable and the OSes less needy.. I think for that to actually change to some degree.. the OSes and hardware will have to change.. ( 'new' frontier ) yet in that effort you wind up improving areas and even eradicating the need all together.. ( instead of just creating another landslide of things to fix or add to or improve...mix that with the majority using it for simply chatting people up Facebook and MySpace.. and well you don't have the same 'WELL' of users you used to ) in a way this kills the industry for what it was... Yet gives us what we desire.. Though some may still complain.. :P and other areas may be well... shhh .. deprecated.. :sneaky:

The mind however and its capabilities and fallibility is right out in the open for everyone to see and that in itself can actually be shown through site and items online. Curiosity.. and all the things mentioned..

[AlienForce1]

As i mentioned some days ago, after you entered a valid email adress you get a

information mail, in this mail they point you to the 48 hrs account activation. I`m

using that offers often with hushmail, if you don`t read your emails carefully and

don`t see that limitation and say after that you haven`t seen that and declare it

therefore as scam, i think you should read every TOS and eMails more carefully.

Also you can extend this account anytime to a premium one. You simply don`t

like uploaded, i think, there is everything scam what they offer. :lol:

Today :( I did understand your effort to advertise for these guys (bannedhost.to) - the answer stands on their front-page at the right side :

Webmaster special: Earn 5 Euro per advertised premium account.

[SnakeMasteR]

As "webmaster" that posted the link http://bannedhost.to :unsure:

Mostly wrong, it would look similar like a ref or href link, not simply the link

from the page itself.. e.g. http:// bannedhost.to/ref/1234567 that would be such

a "webmaster"-advise. :dance2: You really think i would grab off some nsane-

members for my own enrichment?

That hurts me now. :lol:

[AlienForce1]

As "webmaster" that posted the link http://bannedhost.to :unsure:

Mostly wrong, it would look similar like a ref or href link, not simply the link

from the page itself.. e.g. http:// bannedhost.to/ref/1234567 that would be such

a "webmaster"-advise. :dance2: You really think i would grab off some nsane-

members for my own enrichment?

That hurts me now. :lol:

It wasn`t my intention to offend you - that was only my impression ; I am glad I was wrong .

Anyway , we are speaking too much about `bannedhost.to` - doesn`t worth it ...