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Hi shajt,

TNX for the patch :P

Is there a switch to run the patch silently?

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Hi,

Fox x64 ?

What do you mean exactly by silently ?

You run the patch , see literally nothing and the job is done ?

Why do you need that ?

I couldn't make the patch more simpler, for x64 it's 'Next,Next,Next' , for x86 it's one click on the 'Patch' button.

Man ... nhf ... but most patches out there (for anything) is usually manual, you have to copy the cracked content , find installation folder, extract files.... , in this case stop and start the services ...

For this fix you just run the patch and after few seconds it's patched.

Sometimes I wonder why I even bother fixing apps ...

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Hi,

Silently is No human (manual) action.

For diskeeper if you run setup.exe /? it will give you the switches. in example: setup.exe /S /v/qb

Forget it.. yr patch works like a charm :wub:

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Okay, maybe it can work, I'm not familiar with switches from SetupFactory which I used for that x64 patch.

If you know them use them in any way you like :)

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Thanks sternog. The two releases contains the exact same files I noticed.

Both Premium and Enterprise versions have same files, at least those that needs to be patched, I don't know about other files though.

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Something's odd. All my big files, starting from 200MB are not getting defragmented. Even in manual mode it skips them. I've changed the settings in auto defrag from efficient to extensive, and in manual mode, I tried checking and unchecking efficient defrag. Wonder why.

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I think that whole this software is odd.

Legit or not.

For example I had to disable System restore because with standard (default) VSS setting , restore points are purged.

But I don't like the idea of Sys.Restore being turned off , so I've opted for VSS defrag option and turned Sys.Restore back ON.

It's purging restore points anyway.

Okay, so I disabled Sys.Restore because it can't work.

Then yesterday I decided to switch from Efficient to Extensive with Consolidate Directories checked ON.

I-FAAST is enabled now (it was on Auto-Decide and not working before) and auto-defrag is doing defrag for a whole day now, almost non-stop.

But I don't know is it really doing something or that's just for a show.

@dkt27 , I think that Effective is working only in AutoDefrag , that's what DK is saying in options.

How do you run it manually in that mode ?

btw how would someone know for sure that this thing is working or not ?

By the graph ?

I mean, fine, this is going beyond my knowledge about defragmentation , so I accept the possibility that maybe my crack is not good.

But that would be really weird, that everything appears valid and okay , all signs are good and I can't see abnormality , like I've said, when I switched from Efficient to Effective , both drives are doing auto-defrag almost non-stop. wtf is that ? I doubt that app. recognizes that it's cracked and it's doing "defragging" by spinning HD heads and in fact it does nothing at all , that would be dubious :fear:

Can you try the same thing with Trial Version (non-expired of course) or fix from AGAiN and see if it's working there or not ?

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By efficient defrag in manual mode I meant "Efficiently defragment large files". Yea tried checking, unchecking, restarting DK and it's service. Still the same. Skipping big files.

@shajt: The graph should tell you. Maybe that's because I-FAAST is ON and is changing the placement of the files.

Maybe that's the case on my side. :think:

I'm too tired today to try reinstalling it without the fix. Will do it tomorrow. :)

EDIT: Something even more odd. I disable the I-FAAST on a drive and do a manual defrag, now when I-FAAST is enabled, it doesn't even check files, directly skips, but when disabled, it checks files, but again, skips big ones.

BTW, I should note that DK doesn't think that the files I have are "low performing". But still, I want them defraged and even after changing the settings it's not doing them. :frusty:

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btw how would someone know for sure that this thing is working or not ?

By the graph ?

I mean, fine, this is going beyond my knowledge about defragmentation , so I accept the possibility that maybe my crack is not good.

But that would be really weird, that everything appears valid and okay , all signs are good and I can't see abnormality , like I've said, when I switched from Efficient to Effective , both drives are doing auto-defrag almost non-stop. wtf is that ? I doubt that app. recognizes that it's cracked and it's doing "defragging" by spinning HD heads and in fact it does nothing at all , that would be dubious :fear:

Can you try the same thing with Trial Version (non-expired of course) or fix from AGAiN and see if it's working there or not ?

Dear shajt,

No worries...your fix is working.

I have save the analyse pics and compare it daily and weekly.

The pic (after a week) show a drastic changes with majority of the files compacted closely.

I guess it has to do with the setting in diskeeper.

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I think users should also try Crack by " AGAIN" posted by @sternog (Post 104) and then compare with Patch by @shajt. I am noticing some difference, but I dont want to be the bad guy. It seems to me that, with the "AGAIN" thing, the defragmentation is faster... Not sure yet , but it would be nice if there was other opinions.

:think: :think:

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I did some research on other forums (you can find interesting ones about DK in Wilders for example) and I think this app. is completely useless .

It's funny how manual defrag only does "quick pass" and that you can't do "full defrag" manually.

I don't know, options are very weird and they are all inter-connected.

I think I'll uninstall this app. from my system.

But that's my opinion and experience with this software.

Patch is done, I'll continue to maintain future builds , if you think that other patches are doing faster defrags, then use them of course :lol:

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I'm using shajt's patch on build v15.0.951 and all is working as it should on win7 x86,on my terabite hd a manual defrag takes roughly 10=15 minutes and on my 500gb hd it takes around 5 mins so everythings working as it should imvho.

Thanks for the patch shajt. :)

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I did some research on other forums (you can find interesting ones about DK in Wilders for example) and I think this app. is completely useless .

It's funny how manual defrag only does "quick pass" and that you can't do "full defrag" manually.

I don't know, options are very weird and they are all inter-connected.

I think I'll uninstall this app. from my system.

But that's my opinion and experience with this software.

Patch is done, I'll continue to maintain future builds , if you think that other patches are doing faster defrags, then use them of course :lol:

Hmm going to have to disagree on Diskeeper being useless,i've used pretty much every defrag tool known to man and Diskeeper is the only one i've used where i actually notice improvements in system speed,also in the settings you can set the manual defrag to "extensive" which is a bit more of an indepth defrag.

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Hmm going to have to disagree on Diskeeper being useless,i've used pretty much every defrag tool known to man and Diskeeper is the only one i've used where i actually notice improvements in system speed,also in the settings you can set the manual defrag to "extensive" which is a bit more of an indepth defrag.

Okay, maybe I've used wrong word.

I just don't understand WHY I can't run manual defrag and consolidate directories, put all files in one place, or by running defrag at boot-time (so that files that are being used by system can be moved) .

btw you can't set manual defrag to extensive.

That only applies to auto-defrag.

About purging system restore points, I can see that other defraggers has the same problem, so that's okay.

If I set defrag options to Efficient , then I-FAAST is disabled.

But if I set it to Efficient I-FAAST is enabled , but then my hard drives are constantly working, it's been like that for almost 48hrs.

Auto-defrag is supposed to be running when system is idle, but with those settings, it runs all the time, even when I hard-core use my system.

btw here's one quote from from wilders, it's from one week ago :

I use Diskeeper 2010 Standard and Enterprise (Server versions) at work on over 500 servers. It's OK...it's become overly bloated and every time they release a new version it's the same enchancements...like more reliable!...faster!...more efficient! When we run tests here (and we go extensive tests on live systems) we see no measureable difference. It does a decent job, and while I would love to look at an alternative, it's easier for management to just up the maintenance than remove it from 500 machines and install something new. When we fully test DK2011 I'll let you know how it goes.

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I'll keep it installed, but without Extensive , would be nice if I could see graph while auto-defrag is running ...

Here's the enigma :

dk1dd.jpg

dk2z.jpg

Files structure view shows that there are fragmented files , but no matter what I do I can't defrag those.

Haven't tried boot-time defrag though, although from what I can understand it only defrags pagefile and MFT.

But file performance view shows that everything is okay.

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Oops my mistake regarding the "extensive" manual defrag,maybe i'm suffering the placebo effect with Diskeeper so now shajt has put some doubts in my mind it maybe time to try out a few of the other alternatives just to see if theirs any difference between Diskeeper and the other defraggers.

Think i'll start with Perfect Disc and then onto O+O. :)

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Oops my mistake regarding the "extensive" manual defrag,maybe i'm suffering the placebo effect with Diskeeper so now shajt has put some doubts in my mind it maybe time to try out a few of the other alternatives just to see if theirs any difference between Diskeeper and the other defraggers.

Think i'll start with Perfect Disc and then onto O+O. :)

I'm back with what I was using before DK.

Auslogics defrag , scheduled to defrag weekly.

Been running that for over a year now , no problems at all.

I'm not saying that DK is bad or anything, I just don't need something running all the time and taking resources even with auto-defrag turned OFF.

Good luck :)

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I install Diskeeper Enterprise Server 15.0.951 on Windows 7 SP1 with Nsane patch and could not get any thing to

work.When i installed it with AGAiN patch every thing started to work ok.Had it running for 3 days and all is fine

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@shajt

I just installed Auslogics defrag next to Diskeepr, and guess what? Diskeeper works just fine. After I analysed the drive I defragmented with Diskeeper, Auslogics defrag showed 0% fragmented files. I also think I know what's the problem with File Structure view. I think it's not updated properly during or after defragmentation, because when I analysed again File Structure showed that there isn't any fragmented files. Also, I don't have problems with resources, Diskeeper works only when my computer is idle. And, I think you should leave default options and it should work fine.

Cheers ;)

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Yeah, I checked that too , even fragmented files are in the same location.

But anyway, it's uninstalled now.

It worked only on idle in my case too but with default setting, on Extensive is running all the time.

And I've noticed that with IntelliWrite unpacking large number of rar files is taking a while , I guess that's okay, because fragmentation is prevented that way, but still ...

I'm using Auslogics Boostspeed for junk cleaning, registry and all other problems, so it has defrag in there anyway.

Great suite IMO , but that's another topic.

Thing is that it doesn't purge System Restore points and it does pretty good job with defragging , it has nice options too.

I don't really need fancy GUI and other extra 'features' .

The only reason I installed DK was because I was curious how will it work in my real system , kinda liked it in VM while I was cracking it.

In any case , I did my job and patched it , whether I use it or what I think about it isn't that important ^_^

Cheers buddy :)

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