Court Rules Against Pot for Sick People

[D0GG]

:thumbsup: Supreme Court Rules Authorities May Prosecute Sick People Who Smoke Marijuana on Doctors' Orders :lol:

Federal authorities may prosecute sick people who smoke pot on doctors' orders, the Supreme Court ruled Monday, concluding that state medical marijuana laws don't protect users from a federal ban on the drug.

The decision is a stinging defeat for marijuana advocates who had successfully pushed 10 states to allow the drug's use to treat various illnesses.

Justice John Paul Stevens, writing the 6-3 decision, said that Congress could change the law to allow medical use of marijuana.

The closely watched case was an appeal by the Bush administration in a case that it lost in late 2003. At issue was whether the prosecution of medical marijuana users under the federal Controlled Substances Act was constitutional.

Under the Constitution, Congress may pass laws regulating a state's economic activity so long as it involves "interstate commerce" that crosses state borders. The California marijuana in question was homegrown, distributed to patients without charge and without crossing state lines.

Stevens said there are other legal options for patients, "but perhaps even more important than these legal avenues is the democratic process, in which the voices of voters allied with these respondents may one day be heard in the halls of Congress."

California's medical marijuana law, passed by voters in 1996, allows people to grow, smoke or obtain marijuana for medical needs with a doctor's recommendation. Alaska, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Vermont and Washington state have laws similar to California.

In those states, doctors generally can give written or oral recommendations on marijuana to patients with cancer, HIV and other serious illnesses.

In a dissent, Justice Sandra Day O'Connor said that states should be allowed to set their own rules.

"The states' core police powers have always included authority to define criminal law and to protect the health, safety, and welfare of their citizens," said O'Connor, who was joined by other states' rights advocates.

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[nsane]

this is stupid, while the rest of the world is realizing that pot isn't bad and are loosening their choke chains, the US government keeps tighting theirs (god bless england). i thought this country was the people's, yet, when 90% of us smoke pot they create stricter laws. kinda sounds like the opposite of what this country's about, don't it? :thumbsup:

[myidisbb]

this is stupid, while the rest of the world is realizing that pot isn't bad and are loosening their choke chains, the US government keeps tighting theirs (god bless england). i thought this country was the people's, yet, when 90% of us smoke pot they create stricter laws. kinda sounds like the opposite of what this country's about, don't it? :rolleyes:

the ruling makes no sense. instate items that begin and end and never leave a state can NOT be control by the federal goverment. "Under the Constitution, Congress may pass laws regulating a state's economic activity so long as it involves "interstate commerce" that crosses state borders" there was no interstate involve. basically the left wing lib judges ruled that the federal government can break the constitution. they just broke the Constitution law again. first time by ruling illegal with the under 18 death penalty cases. and now this. high crimes and treason. impeach all 6 of the 9 judges. THEY BROKE THE U S CONSTITUTION AND MUST PAY.

btw i dont believe in weed nor smoking nor drinking. but its a right.

[Guest tensegg]

england aint much better lol,

tobacco has more than 50 ways of making life a misery through illness and more than 20 ways of killing you. In general, smokers endure poorer health than non-smokers. It has been estimated that, in England, 364,000 patients are admitted to NHS hospitals each year due to diseases caused by smoking. This translates into 7,000 hospital admissions per week, or 1,000 day. In 1997/98, cigarette smoking caused an estimated 480,000 patients to consult their GP for heart disease,20,000 for stroke and nearly 600,000 for COPD. 1

thats legal

cannabis related deaths, 0

cannabis related hospital admitions 0

thats illegal,

480,000 people at the doctors for cigarettes, 0 for cannabis :P

wakey wakey :rolleyes:

[Samurai]

Well in all fairness no one I know smokes weed on it's own. It is generally mixed with tobacco, so those findings are not particularly useful. 90% of those cases you mentioned could be weed smokers only. Wherever you found this info from, decided not to state those facts.

I don't smoke weed, although I have done. However I don't have a problem with it :rolleyes:

[Guest tensegg]

http://www.ash.org.uk/html/factsheets/html/fact02.html

statistics from there, the fact that 90% of those people might be weed smokers is irrelevent, 90% of them might also be male prostitutes, the fact is, they are sick or dead because of tobacco, a product with zero medicinal qualities, containing around 600 other known toxins, once processed, and its legal and freely available, alcohol statistics are worse, also legal, it's stoopid, statistically :rolleyes: :P.

90% of those cases you mentioned could be weed smokers only

erm, if your smoking weed only, your not getting into the sick from tobacco statistics, cos your not sick from tobacco ;).

[Samurai]

http://www.ash.org.uk/html/factsheets/html/fact02.html

statistics from there, the fact that 90% of those people might be weed smokers is irrelevent, 90% of them might also be male prostitutes, the fact is, they are  sick or dead because of tobacco,  a product with  zero medicinal qualities, containing around 600 other known toxins, once processed, and its legal and freely available, alcohol statistics are worse, also legal, it's stoopid, statistically :rolleyes:  ;).

erm, if your smoking weed only, your not getting into the sick from tobacco statistics, cos your not sick from tobacco  :P.

When I said 90% of those could be weed smokers only I meant as in the norm, where people roll up WITH tobacco. I already stated earlier that no one I know smokes green on it's own, it's always mixed with tobacco which in turn contains all the nasties :P

[nsane]

there have been all kinds of studies that have proven that marijuana is NOT dangerous in any way...

Mayor Laguardia, once mayor of NYC, conducted a study back in 1929 which came to the conclusion that marijuana is perfectly safe. but, guess what, the govt. shut it down because it was proving their propoganda wrong. even tho EVERY study since has came to the very same conclusion (if not proving it's actually good) :rolleyes:

do you even know why marijuana was outlawed? because mexicans smoked it when they started migrating to the US in the early 1900's so the racist govt. decided to outlaw their fav past time to prevent them from coming into the country (FACT) ;)

the outlawing of canabis is 100% ILLEGAL, it violates the constitution in like 400 ways. but, hey, what does our current govt. think of the constitution...nothing. they only care about the money, which they waste tons of trying to exterminate a plant that was placed here by god and forcing other countries to do the same <_>

rent/watch the film "Grass", great eye opener :P

btw, @tensegg - marijuana was decriminalized in the UK, meaning you can have/grow it for personal use. but, you can't smoke it in public, etc. it's pretty much treated, almost, like alcohal over there :P

[myidisbb]

actually from a story i once watch, it was given a foreign sounding name with a vowel on the end. therefor making it seem european catholic like back between ww1 and ww2. the oil companies where behind it. the weed plant and seeds could make an oil that can be use in machines. during ww2 they use the oil to fly some airplanes.

and i believe it was the blacks that where smoking the weed. anything black was a no no and therefor the teens wanted to do it then. (from the music, dancing etc)

[nsane]

who knows, it was probably done for all of the above reasons. hell, the movie grass is almost 2 hours long...they go over like 1000 reason the govt. illegaly outlawed canabis

anyone ever notice there has NEVER been a nation wide election that allowed citizens to vote on the legallity of MJ? it's been deemed bad by the same people who think "rap music is a bunch of jibberish" and "we need to remove fart sounds from broadcast TV". i thought this country gave the finger to the 'moral crusaders' back in the 1930s? :P

btw, it was only a few months ago 1,000,000 people marched on DC to decriminalize MJ. but they gov't don't care, even tho we ARE the majority :rolleyes:

/me is moving to Canada when i get the chance. sad, because it's THIS country that's suppost to be about freedom of the people, but no, the UK & Canada are more free than us now and the UK is who we fought for our so called 'freedom' <_>

[Guest tensegg]

btw, @tensegg - marijuana was decriminalized in the UK, meaning you can have/grow it for personal use. but, you can't smoke it in public, etc. it's pretty much treated, almost, like alcohal over there biggrin.gif

kind of m8, it was reduced from class b to class c, which basically means you can still be arrested and prosecuted for possesion, at the local police forces descretion, but yep, it's still better than what you dudes are getting. I'ts kinda the same in Austria where I am just now, you can buy plants on the hight street and grow it legally, but if you smoke it, your nicked. :rolleyes: :blink:

Luckily I'm a non smoking non drinking non fornicating presbeteryan priest and none of this affects me :P