Karlston Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 AMD Ryzen 4000 desktop APUs will be here in Q3 2020 We're not getting any new Ryzen 9 models—but 3, 5, and 7 get integrated GPUs. Enlarge / Ryzen 4000 desktop CPUs are here—but they don't look like the follow-up breakthrough many readers have been hoping for. AMD This morning, AMD announced the next big thing for its Ryzen desktop CPU line—the Ryzen 4000 series, slated to arrive in Q3 2020. Those of you who've been waiting breathlessly for Zen 3 architecture will need to keep waiting—Ryzen 4000 desktop CPUs are still built on 7nm, Zen 2 architecture. There also don't appear to be any performance recordbreakers in Ryzen 4000's desktop lineup: the highest-end SKU announced is the 65W 8 core / 16 thread Ryzen 7 Pro 4750G. Instead, AMD is taking solid aim at rival Intel's chokehold on the office PC market. Every single one of the 18 new processor SKUs announced features integrated Radeon graphics—and nine of the 18 are "GE" suffix CPUs, meaning only 35W TDP. Both of these features are highly desirable in either home-office or business environments—Radeon integrated graphics are good enough for anything short of high-end content creation or gaming, and lower TDP means lower power bills and lower cooling bills as well in hotter climates. Desktop Ryzen 4000 Architecture and performance The new Ryzen 4000 G-series APUs will continue to use the AM4 socket and are based on 7nm Zen2 architecture just like the earlier Ryzen 3000 CPUs. They're essentially Ryzen Mobile 4000 APUs writ large, upscaled into desktop-class frequency, power, and thermal budgets. In at least one way, the new series is a step backward from Ryzen 3000: the 4000 G-series only offers PCI express 3.0, not 4.0. Each chip offers eight PCIe 3.0 lanes for expansion cards—we don't know yet whether there will be additional PCIe lanes for NVMe devices. This isn't likely to be a problem for Ryzen 4000 G-series customers—these CPUs are all designed to be used with integrated graphics, and none of them outperforms the higher-end Ryzen 3000 desktop CPUs in the first place. When it comes to estimating what 4000 G-series' performance will look like, AMD offered us much less concrete data than we've become accustomed to. The company wasn't shy about telling us that G series is faster than competing Intel vPro CPUs, and by how much—but AMD is remarkably cagey about comparisons to earlier Ryzen CPUs. Slides claim "over 2.5x more performance than last gen"—but those numbers are gotten by comparing Ryzen 7 4700G to Ryzen 5 3450G, not to Ryzen 7 3700X. If we want to get a realistic comparison to Ryzen 3000 desktop CPUs, we're left to do a little donkey-work and hope the numbers line up. AMD's slide claims "+152%" Cinebench R20 multi-threaded results when comparing Ryzen 7 4700G to Ryzen 5 3450G—this isn't very useful by itself, but it gives us something to go on. CGIdirector shows Ryzen 5 3450G attaining an R20 multi-threaded score of 1,995. If we add 152 percent to that, we come up with a score of 5,027. This guesstimated raw score comes out to a measly 3.5 percent improvement over Ryzen 7 3700X—and a dead heat with Ryzen 7 3800X. Running the numbers this way might be a bit sloppy—but it seems to thoroughly answer the question, "Why is AMD comparing Ryzen 7 4000 to Ryzen 5 3000?" Ryzen 4000 APU models Enlarge / AMD Memory Guard—full RAM encryption—is the main selling point for the Pro variant of Ryzen 4000 G-series processors. AMD Eighteen different SKUs were announced today—but there are really only five new base models. Four of them have both G and GE (power efficient) models, and all of them have both Pro and non-Pro models—the difference being that Pro models explicitly support AMD Memory Guard and AMD Secure Processor technologies, and non-Pro models do not. Base Model Cores/Threads TDP (G model) TDP (GE model) Boost/Base Frequency (G model) Boost/Base Frequency (GE model) L2+L3 cache Ryzen 7 4700 / 4700 Pro 8C / 16T 65W 35W Up to 4.4GHz / 3.6GHz Up to 4.3GHz / 3.1GHz 12MiB Ryzen 5 4600 / 4600 Pro 6C / 12T 65W 35W Up to 4.2GHz / 3.7GHz Up to 4.2GHz / 3.3GHz 11MiB Ryzen 3 4300 / 4300 Pro 4C / 8T 65W 35W Up to 4.0GHz / 3.8GHz Up to 4.0GHz / 3.5GHz 6MiB Athlon Gold 3150 / 3150 Pro 4C / 4T 65W 35W 3.9GHz 3.8GHz 6MiB Athlon Silver 3050 / 3050 Pro 2C / 4T n/a 35W n/a 3.4GHz 5MiB Availability If you're dreaming of building your own inexpensive-but-awesome Ryzen 4000 system with integrated Radeon graphics, we've got bad news for you—this entire series of processors will be available to OEMs and System Integrators (read: OEMs, but a little smaller than Lenovo or HP) only. The Pro versions of these Ryzen 4000 desktop APUs are available to OEMs and SIs today, and systems featuring both Pro and non-Pro Ryzen 4000 APUs are expected to be available from larger OEMs in the fall. AMD Ryzen 4000 desktop APUs will be here in Q3 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanderthunder Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 AMD Ryzen 4000G Series Processors Now Official; Only Available To OEM Integrators AMD has officially lifted the veil from its new Ryzen 4000G series APUs. Like its Ryzen 4000 Mobile series CPUs, the new processors are based on the same Renoir silicon, but unlike its cousins, they’re designed for desktop system and are integrated with Vega graphic cores. In addition to the Ryzen 4000G series, AMD is also introducing the Ryzen PRO 4000G series. Naturally, both the Non-Pro and Pro series processors are compatible with AMD’s current generation B550 and X570 motherboards. But it should be noted that the PRO 4000G series processors will also support a new PRO565 chipset. In total, both the Ryzen 4000G and Ryzen PRO 4000G APUs will six SKUs each. The list includes: Ryzen 7 4700G Ryzen 7 4700GE Ryzen 5 4600G Ryzen 5 4600GE Ryzen 3 4300G Ryzen 3 4300GE Ryzen 7 Pro 4700G Ryzen 7 Pro 4750GE Ryzen 5 Pro 4650G Ryzen 5 Pro 4650GE Ryzen 3 Pro 4350G Ryzen 3 Pro 4350GE As for their specs, the Ryzen 7 SKUs come with 8-cores, 16-threads, the Ryzen 5 SKUs with 6-cores, 12-threads, while the Ryzen 3 SKUs on both sides sport a 4-cores, 8-threads layout. On a related note, both the “G” and “GE” variants the new APU come with different power envelopes; all “G” units ship out with a TDP of 65W, while the “GE” versions of the APUs have a considerably smaller power consumption at 35W. Also, to state the obvious, all APU units are built upon AMD’s current 7nm Zen 2 architecture. Unfortunately, there is a catch to AMD’s new APUs; unlike the current range of Ryzen 3000 series CPUs, the new Ryzen 4000G series range of processors will only be made available to OEM integrators and unavailable for individual purchase by the general consumer. As for their availability, AMD expects its new Ryzen 4000G series APUs to start being available in OEM systems of Dell, HP, and Lenovo as early as the third quarter of this year. The Ryzen PRO 4000G series will also be available in OEM systems around the same time. Source: AMD Ryzen 4000G Series Processors Now Official; Only Available To OEM Integrators (via Lowyat.NET) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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