ghost Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyy Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 And this is called Democracy???????? Welcome to the United Police States of Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franco46 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Comparing to what the police do in Hong Kong, this is just a baby game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 When i saw this the first time i was devastated. The elderly man approached the police in a non aggressive manner. Then suddenly the cops just shoved him, causing him to fall backward; his head ended up slamming the pavement. As a result of that fall i saw immediate pool of blood just under his head. Last report i heard he was in critical condition. I hope and pray for his recovery and well being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aum Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 ... and: Fifty seven officers have resigned from their positions on a Buffalo Police team in 'disgust' over the treatment of two cops who were suspended after they were filmed shoving a 75-year-old peace activist to the ground and causing him to crack open his head. Read here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 Is it just me or anyone else cant give reactions in this thread as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aum Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, ghost said: Is it just me or anyone else cant give reactions in this thread as well? No it's not you @ghost. It's for real -- can't give reactions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 minute ago, aum said: No it's not you @ghost. It's for real -- can't give reactions here. Thanks Aum as always. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aum Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Member Reactions matter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 @aum @ghost Guy's your in a chat bar there is no need for reactions here your allowed to say things like "Thank You" Member Reactions Matter except when your chatting there is no problem just different rules to the rest of the forum. Have a great day guy's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aum Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Too many rules: Here you do this way; there you don't do this way; and the rule can change anytime. But it's a-okay whatever you say. Thanks for taking the time to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, aum said: Too many rules: Here you do this way; there you don't do this way; and the rule can change anytime. 😉 Rules are rules and yes they can change anytime that's the roll of Admin and if you have a problem then your free to discuss this with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Mach1 said: @aum @ghost Guy's your in a chat bar there is no need for reactions here your allowed to say things like "Thank You" Member Reactions Matter except when your chatting there is no problem just different rules to the rest of the forum. Have a great day guy's I was just asking, anyways you've answered it. Thanks have a good weekend. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosy Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 This is just appalling, no other comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aum Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 11 hours ago, Mach1 said: ... if you have a problem then your free to discuss this with them. 11 hours ago, aum said: it's a-okay whatever you say. Thanks for taking the time to say it. No problem, @Mach1. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, aum said: No problem, @Mach1. Cheers! Cool brother no worries I don't make the rules and just needed to answer the question "why no reactions here" have a good day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aum Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mach1 said: Cool brother no worries I don't make the rules and just needed to answer the question "why no reactions here" have a good day Need not explain your actions, brother, ever to me! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, aum said: Need not explain your actions, brother, ever to me! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aum Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Buffalo mayor calls elderly protester shoved by police an ‘agitator’ The elderly Buffalo protester knocked to the ground by cops in a viral video that has become an international symbol of police brutality was an “agitator” who was “trying to spark up the crowd of people,” the city’s mayor said. Explaining why he had yet to fire the officers seen pushing Martin Gugino, 75, to the ground, where he hit his head and bled onto the pavement, Mayor Byron Brown said, “I don’t want to jump ahead of the investigation. It is very important for officers to know they are getting due process,” according to WBEN Radio. Brown referenced violence, vandalism, looting and fires being set during protests in the city, then described Gugino as “a key and major instigator of people engaging in those activities” in remarks he made Friday. “He was in the area after the curfew. One of the things that happened before was conflict among protesters and there was a danger of fights breaking out, and police felt it was important to clear that scene for the safety of protesters,” said Brown. State Police will be brought in to assist Buffalo after 57 cops, the department’s entire Emergency Response Team, resigned in solidarity with the two officers who were suspended over the altercation with Gugino, the mayor said. “Our residents in every section in the city of Buffalo will be protected,” Brown said, vowing police would also protect “everyone who is peacefully protesting.” Gugino is recovering in the hospital. Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 Prosecutor: 2 Buffalo police charged with assault in shoving © Provided by The Canadian Press BUFFALO, N.Y. — Two Buffalo police officers were charged with assault Saturday, prosecutors said, after a video showed them shoving a 75-year-old protester in recent demonstrations over the death of George Floyd. Robert McCabe and Aaron Torgalski, who surrendered Saturday morning, pleaded not guilty to second-degree assault. They were released without bail. McCabe, 32, and Torgalski, 39, “crossed a line” when they shoved the man down hard enough for him to crack his head on the ground, Erie County District Attorney John Flynn said at a news conference, calling the victim "a harmless 75-year-old man.” The officers had been suspended without pay Friday after a TV crew captured the confrontation the night before near the end of protests. If convicted of the felony assault charge, they face up to seven years in prison. Phone messages were left on Saturday with their lawyers. The footage shows the man, identified as longtime activist Martin Gugino, approaching a line of helmeted officers holding batons as they clear demonstrators from Niagara Square around the time of an 8 p.m. curfew. Two officers push Gugino backward, and he hits his head on the pavement. Blood spills as officers walk past. One officer leans down to check on the injured man before another officer urges the colleague to keep walking. The police officers “knew this was bad,” Flynn said of the video. “Look at their body language.” The video of the encounter sparked outrage online as demonstrators take to cities across the country to protest racial injustice sparked by the death of George Floyd, a black man who died after a white police officer pressed a knee into his neck for several minutes. “I think there was criminal liability from what I saw on the video,” Gov. Andrew Cuomo said at a briefing Saturday. “I think what the mayor did and the district attorney did was right, and I applaud them for acting as quickly as they did.” “What we saw was horrendous and disgusting, and I believe, illegal,” he added. But dozens of Buffalo police officers who were angered over their fellow officers’ suspensions stepped down from the department’s crowd control unit Friday. The resigning officers did not leave their jobs altogether. Several off-duty officers gathered on Saturday outside the courthouse in a show of support for the accused officers. Flynn said he understood their concern and pointed out that he’s also prosecuting protesters “who have turned into agitators” and “need to be dealt with as well.” “There will be some who say that I’m choosing sides here,” he said. “And I say that’s ridiculous. I’m not on anyone’s side.” The Associated Press MSN.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 I am not anti police. but police brutality is a problem and needs to be solved. They (police) should use force only when appropriate and the force used should be proportionate. There is a saying: "don't push, when there is no resistance, you will only fall flat on your face." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 Buffalo police officers arrested after shoving 75-year-old protester Left, Robert McCabe, 32, and Aaron Torgalski, 39, officers with the Buffalo Police Department were charged with second-degree assault after he was seen on video shoving a 75-year-old protester to the ground. Two Buffalo, New York, police officers are now facing criminal charges in connection with the graphic caught-on-video shove of a 75-year-old man during a protest, prosecutors said. Officers Aaron Torgalski and Robert McCabe were charged with second-degree assault during their video arraignments on Saturday and were released on their own recognizance. They both entered not guilty pleas and are expected back in court on July 20. The Thursday protest at Niagara Square had less than 20 demonstrators and several members of Buffalo Police Department's Emergency Response Team, officials said. One of the protesters, Martin Gugino was seen on video walking in the direction of the crowd of uniformed officers when Torgalski and McCabe are accused of shoved him. MORE: Graphic video shows Buffalo police pushing man during protest Gugino fell flat onto his back and bumped the back of his head on the concrete, video shows. The sound of the man's head hitting the ground silenced the crowd, according to the video. A trail of blood can be seen seeping from the head of the motionless man as several officers walked by him. Youth sit with placards in front of riot police officers blocking the way in Athens on June 5, during a rally against racism and police brutality and in support to the protests in US, sparked by the killing of George Floyd by police. "Mr. Gugino has been a longtime peaceful protester, human rights advocate, and overall fan of the U.S. Constitution for many years. At this time, Mr. Gugino is in serious but stable condition. He is alert and oriented," said Kelly V. Zarcone, Gugino's attorney, in a statement. Another officer, possibly a National Guard member, who went to aid the bleeding man was pushed by fellow officers, the video shows. Governor Andrew Cuomo said at a press conference on Saturday that the video was “horrendous, disgusting” and said he believed it to be illegal. "A bad police officer is an enemy of every good police officer," Cuomo said. The spokesperson for the city and police department, Mike DeGeorge, initially said in a statement that the man "tripped and fell." "Once the department became aware of additional video from the scene, they immediately opened an investigation," DeGeorge told ABC News on Thursday. MORE: Buffalo police officers suspended after shoving 75-year-old protester Both officers were suspended and the Erie County District Attorney John Flynn launched an investigation. The police union opposed the suspensions and in response 57 officers on the emergency team resigned from their positions, but will remain on the force. MSN.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosy Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 A quite interesting story here, thank you for posting it. I don't understand, why we humans never use our heads and brains, although we have them. I watched the footprint, what the policemen did wasn't necessary in any way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 @cosy i agree completely. Whats disturbing is the impact thud from the old man falling and bumping his head can be heard on the opposite end of police line. Hence, why they all turned immediately to see what that sound was. I don't post this stuff to be sadistic, but to raise awareness that this crap is happening all over the world. Police using violence on people that pay their salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aum Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, ghost said: ... this [.] is happening all over the world... ... is happening in the world as we type here (but no camera to record it) ... had happened, has happened, is happening and will be happening ... we humans ... killers... and ... protectors -- at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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