aum Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 It’s an interesting time. Microsoft now maintains three different web browsers: Internet Explorer 11 Microsoft Edge Legacy (Spartan, v18 and below) Chromium-based Microsoft Edge (v79+) If you’re using Internet Explorer 11, you should stop; sometimes, this is easier said than done. If you’re using Legacy Microsoft Edge, you should upgrade to the new Microsoft Edge which is better in almost every way. When you install the Stable version of the new Microsoft Edge (either by downloading it or eventually by using WindowsUpdate), it will replace your existing Legacy Edge with the new version. What if I still need to test in Legacy Edge? If you’re a web developer and need to keep testing your sites and services in the legacy Microsoft Edge, you’ll need to set a registry key to prevent the Edge installer from removing the entry points to the old Edge. Simply import this registry script before the new Edge is installed. When the AllowSxS key is set to 1, the new Edge installer will keep the old entry point, renaming it to “Microsoft Edge Legacy”: Thereafter, you can use both versions of Edge on the same PC. If you didn’t have this registry key set and your legacy Edge entry points have disappeared when you installed the new Edge, you can use the Add or Remove Programs applet in the system control panel to uninstall the new Edge, then set the registry key, then reinstall the new Edge. Note: If you’re a Web Developer, you should also be testing in the Edge Beta or Edge Dev builds because these will allow you to see the changes coming to Edge before your users do. These builds install side-by-side (replacing no browser) and can be installed from https://MicrosoftEdgeInsider.com. What if my company has sites that only work in Internet Explorer? In order to help speed migration to the new Microsoft Edge, it offers an Internet Explorer Mode feature when running on Windows. IE Mode allows IT administrators to configure PCs running Windows 7, 8.1, and 10 such that specified sites will load inside a browser tab that uses the Internet Explorer 11 rendering engine. IE Mode is not designed for or available to consumers. Because IE Mode relies upon the IE11 binaries on the current machine, it is not available in Edge for MacOS, iOS, or Android. IE Mode tabs run inside the legacy security sandbox (weaker than the regular Edge sandbox) and ActiveX controls like Silverlight are available to web pages. IE Mode does not share a cache, cookies, or web storage with Microsoft Edge, so scenarios that depend upon using these storage mechanisms in a cross-site+cross-engine context will not work correctly. IT administrators should carefully set their policies such that user flows occur within a single engine. Most Edge browser extensions will not work on IE Mode tabs–extensions which only look at the tab’s URL should work, but extensions which try to view or modify the page content will not function correctly. In an ideal world, users will migrate to the latest version of Microsoft Edge as quickly as possible, and enjoy a faster, more compatible, more reliable browser. Nevertheless, Microsoft will continue to patch both Legacy Edge and Internet Explorer 11 according to their existing support lifecycle. Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Kalju said: It is interesting that you do not know that Microsoft does not maintain IE 11 for quite long time and also stopped working on the old Edge in February-March last year. only time will tell when Microsoft puts the killswitch to both of these old browsers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kalju said: This will probably take some time, as many Windows features still use IE and many apps use the old Edge. All of them need to be changed. It is likely that these old ones will remain run in the background for a while, even if users don't see them and users have lost them for ever... unless if they working on removing dependency of apps and Windows features that uses IE and Legacy Edge, but I gotta agree with you that it takes some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitorio Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 4 hours ago, aum said: It’s an interesting time. Microsoft now maintains three different web browsers: Internet Explorer 11 Microsoft Edge Legacy (Spartan, v18 and below) Chromium-based Microsoft Edge (v79+) If you’re using Internet Explorer 11, you should stop; sometimes, this is easier said than done. If you’re using Legacy Microsoft Edge, you should upgrade to the new Microsoft Edge which is better in almost every way. When you install the Stable version of the new Microsoft Edge (either by downloading it or eventually by using WindowsUpdate), it will replace your existing Legacy Edge with the new version. What if I still need to test in Legacy Edge? If you’re a web developer and need to keep testing your sites and services in the legacy Microsoft Edge, you’ll need to set a registry key to prevent the Edge installer from removing the entry points to the old Edge. Simply import this registry script before the new Edge is installed. When the AllowSxS key is set to 1, the new Edge installer will keep the old entry point, renaming it to “Microsoft Edge Legacy”: Thereafter, you can use both versions of Edge on the same PC. If you didn’t have this registry key set and your legacy Edge entry points have disappeared when you installed the new Edge, you can use the Add or Remove Programs applet in the system control panel to uninstall the new Edge, then set the registry key, then reinstall the new Edge. Note: If you’re a Web Developer, you should also be testing in the Edge Beta or Edge Dev builds because these will allow you to see the changes coming to Edge before your users do. These builds install side-by-side (replacing no browser) and can be installed from https://MicrosoftEdgeInsider.com. What if my company has sites that only work in Internet Explorer? In order to help speed migration to the new Microsoft Edge, it offers an Internet Explorer Mode feature when running on Windows. IE Mode allows IT administrators to configure PCs running Windows 7, 8.1, and 10 such that specified sites will load inside a browser tab that uses the Internet Explorer 11 rendering engine. IE Mode is not designed for or available to consumers. Because IE Mode relies upon the IE11 binaries on the current machine, it is not available in Edge for MacOS, iOS, or Android. IE Mode tabs run inside the legacy security sandbox (weaker than the regular Edge sandbox) and ActiveX controls like Silverlight are available to web pages. IE Mode does not share a cache, cookies, or web storage with Microsoft Edge, so scenarios that depend upon using these storage mechanisms in a cross-site+cross-engine context will not work correctly. IT administrators should carefully set their policies such that user flows occur within a single engine. Most Edge browser extensions will not work on IE Mode tabs–extensions which only look at the tab’s URL should work, but extensions which try to view or modify the page content will not function correctly. In an ideal world, users will migrate to the latest version of Microsoft Edge as quickly as possible, and enjoy a faster, more compatible, more reliable browser. Nevertheless, Microsoft will continue to patch both Legacy Edge and Internet Explorer 11 according to their existing support lifecycle. Source Recently they provide to me a new Human Resources information platform which only run with Windows Explorer 11. Based on this experience I will say this three browser options are necessary, even today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Edge insider Canary (Version 81.0.413.0 (Official build) canary (64-bit)) is the best version of Edge, it beats Chrome too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPECTRUM Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Sylence said: Edge insider Canary (Version 81.0.413.0 (Official build) canary (64-bit)) is the best version of Edge, it beats Chrome too. even the Stable Edge 79.0.309.71 beats Chrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanderthunder Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, SPECTRUM said: even the Stable Edge 79.0.309.71 beats Chrome. what's making it better, the Edge Chromium can accept extensions both from Microsoft Store and Chrome Web Store (need to toogle on "Allow extensions from other stores"). so more flexibility and choice for users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Internet Explorer 11 is home too 4 of the most used exploits , I stop using IE in 2006 Edge HTML is just now passing IE 11 after 4 and half years and IE has been dead for years, no one uses Edge HTML. Chromium-based Microsoft Edge is a disaster waiting to happen because it;s based on open source and Microsoft's wide Patch Gap If they dont patch as fast as the bugs get posted at chromium your a sitting duck. As slow as Microsoft patches its dangerous for them to fork open source programs because Open source vulnerabilities dont be hidden from the public for a year to 90 days .they patch them 5 days a week. Mon -Fri . Google adopted open source and because of slow updates it has made Android security a mess . So Google is working on closing there patch gap at lest on Chrome.were they control it . Android security is out of Google's hand with 3rd party vendors I doubt it will ever be fixed. But still Android security is no were bad as windows yet that has always been a mess but even Windows security is better than it was but all of the top 10 used exploits are Microsoft problems one is fixing go away thats Flash. Even if IE ever goes away there other big one is M$ Office that is home to 3 of the most used exploits Most of the most used exploits have patches , Many enterprises never patch fast or hardly at all because to patch causes downtime to reboot your system thats if you dont have bugs and you have to fix the image after patching . Downtime cost lots of money. And thats were most all money is made on Windows is from business anymore, So Microsoft has a patch gap and business delay updates even after the updates are out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 @steven36 that's just pure speculations. Android security patches will be delivered using Google play starting with Android 10, project Mainline https://www.droidviews.com/googles-project-mainline/ there is the 2nd step. the 3rd and probably final step will most likely happen in Android 12 to trigger the next phase of modular Android OS. Android is doing a great job, just like Windows. Apple on the other hand chose the easy way out. they only restricted their OS to one type of hardware and totally shut down the rest of the world. the future is in the hands of Windows and Android. not closed ecosystems such as OSX or IOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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