Matrix Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Israeli_Eagle said: BUT... It can be limited enough that FB for example can never get the exact location or any private data 3 minutes ago, steven36 said: And you never know when they be some new 0day out there not disclosed Well the thing is in recent years with so many privacy breeches you have to ask yourself what's next and better still what is our governments going to do with all the Metta Data collected and is location and user identity data collected ?? Of course it is all in the name of national security privacy on the internet can never be guaranteed sorry but that's the world we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Israeli_Eagle said: Because of that I said already... You should use a good VPN provider & system!! For example there is no client app needed at all. Heartbleed attack effected all vpns and even ssl in your browser there no such thing as a good vpn when it comes to 0days and weakness in libraries . But as far as VPN clients were you can block the known leaks yourself some are better than others but if you know how to check for the leaks and block them yourself none of this matter no way . It just means your a noob who don't how to block known leaks is all , so you blame it on the software because your depended on it . Just because you don't understand the risk involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israeli_Eagle Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, steven36 said: Heartbleed attack effected all vpns and even ssl in your browser there no such thing as a good vpn when it comes to 0days and weakness in libraries . But as far as VPN clients were you can block the known leaks yourself some are better than others but if know how to check for the leaks you block them yourself none of this matter no way . It just means your a noob who don't how to block known leaks is all so blame on the software because your deepened on it just it because you don't understand the risk involved. I know all leaks etc usually, but only as a noob as you said. LMAO....... Luckily I'm professional and team leader, that's my job. And even the youngster colleagues here know already that not even the Pope or President Dump would ever get my IP, zero chance and that's already 30 years. But again... Does not come from heaven and cannot be bought!! 16 minutes ago, Mach1 said: Well the thing is in recent years with so many privacy breeches you have to ask yourself what's next and better still what is our governments going to do with all the Metta Data collected and is location and user identity data collected ?? Of course it is all in the name of national security privacy on the internet can never be guaranteed sorry but that's the world we live in. Fully agree and I'm strongly fight against that!! Luckily politics are also an old hobby and I'm very left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 We can all have that warm fuzzy feeling of security and privacy because we can hide behind even multiple VPN's simultaneously but perhaps the more you hide the more attention is drawn to you being a noob is not a bad thing hiding with the mass's in some cases may not be as bad as we think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, Israeli_Eagle said: I know all leaks etc usually, but only as a noob as you said. LMAO....... Luckily I'm professional and team leader, that's my job. And even the youngsters colleagues here know already that not even the Pope or President Dump would ever get my IP, zero chance and that's already 30 years. But again... Does not come from heaven and cannot be bought!! Lucky for me i learn early and didn't start out with a vpn client i used open vpn and had to add my own 3rd party DNS and things and every time a leak was discovered i learn how to plug it. Most VPN leaks was discovered since 2014 so what you learned 30 years ago is no good most VPN leaks came from IPv6 and stuff they added to browsers. Like WebRTC was not even in browsers before then. It like that new tracking they have out now were they can you track you with 1st party cookies i have list I added to my ad-blocker that blocks the 1st party tracking already because i seek solutions . same as when cryto mining came out i added list to block it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israeli_Eagle Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, steven36 said: Lucky for me i learn early and didn't start out with a vpn client i used open vpn and had add my own 3rd party DNS and things and every time a leak was discovered i learn how toto plug it. Most VPN leaks was discovered since 2014 so what learn 30 years ago is no good most VPN leaks came from IPv6 and stuff the added to browsers, Good that you not use any app for that. But OpenVPN is used too much nowadays, I use now a different and a bit less standard format. Is even faster, same strong encrypted and some extra stage to find out if somebody wants to try logging the traffic. But IPv6 is still somehow Beta level and not really work in VPN anyway, should be better blocked. Own DNS is good, but there are also better and clean ones of the world. But I hope you use good VPN servers and should never be at your country where you live. Same about the provider. 24 minutes ago, Mach1 said: We can all have that warm fuzzy feeling of security and privacy because we can hide behind even multiple VPN's simultaneously but perhaps the more you hide the more attention is drawn to you being a noob is not a bad thing hiding with the mass's in some cases may not be as bad as we think. Yeah....... Tunnels in tunnels in tunnels etc are cool, but you can also add TOR as well for the mix. And a strong CPU still laughs about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Israeli_Eagle said: Good that you not use any app for that. But OpenVPN is used too much nowadays, I use now a different and a bit less standard format. Is even faster, same strong encrypted and some extra stage to find out if somebody wants to try logging the traffic. But IPv6 is still somehow Beta level and not really work in VPN anyway, should be better blocked. Own DNS is good, but there are also better and clean ones of the world. But I hope you use good VPN servers and should never be at your country where you live. Same about the provider. I just use My VPN client today and my VPN DNS but started with just Open VPN years ago and it teached me a lot about how to stop DNS leaks and I always turn IPV6 off on my systems . But security and privacy is always evolving if you dont keep up you will be vulnerable . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israeli_Eagle Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, steven36 said: I just use My VPN client today and my VPN DNS but started with just Open VPN years ago and teach me a lot about how to stop DNS leaks and I always turn IPV6 off on my systems . But security and privacy is always evolving if you dont keep up you will be vulnerable . Eh?? For what a VPN client? You need more servers and better a lot!! And good servers are of course 101% WebRTC safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, Israeli_Eagle said: Eh?? For what a VPN client? You need more servers and better a lot!! I know how to check for leaks i blocked my real DNS on my system in the config file on Linux. 2 years ago were if it was to leak it will be using another DNS instead of mine i use 3rd party DNS as default. changing DNS and turning off ipv6 on Linux is different than on windows . When I on work on my router i boot into windows because i'm too lazy to edit the config file to use my real DNS . I learn how to do windows then latter i learn it on Linux and it is really different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, steven36 said: But security and privacy is always evolving if you dont keep up you will be vulnerable . Isn't that the truth daily in fact !! While we all have different levels of security/privacy depending on our own needs it must not be forgotten that there is always going to be some jackoff out there who will except the challenge to break our protection nothing is 100% safe tomorrow. Thank you @Israeli_Eagle and @steven36 for your comments and input. Unfortunately I have been reported by a visitor (FBI) as a national security risk Time to close this topic now thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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