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[DKT27]

Hmm...

[HX1]

:whistle: :whistle:

[DKT27]

Ah. Now I get the meaning of the first joke posted on nsane.forums. B)

[HX1]

-_-

[DKT27]

Heath, want your help. Getting a new PC and new HDD in two days. Will direclty install Windows 7 into new HDD. Now some questions. I've never installed a OS on a fully blank drive. I wanna make about 5-6 partitions into that 500GB HDD. Can Windows 7 installation make partitions on a fully new HDD or I'll have to make partitions after I install it?

Installation wont ask for serial right?

Any more tips?

Im kinda really concerned/excited a bit. :unsure:

[Atasas]

GParted Live CD (or usb) is the tool to do everything partition ways!

[HX1]

Okay on a fresh drive.. you should be able to boot from the installation Disk ( make sure you can beforehand ) When you select your drive.. The disk itself can make partitions and format for you then.. Then you choose which one to install to.. ( hope you have a big HD for all of those.. )..

Windows 7 Ultimate may be able to make a partition afterwards in Disk Management but I haven't done it so I don't know for sure.. I always go with working the disk beforehand.. just to be safe.. Windows XP Pro would do this..but not Home.. I am sitting on Ultimate which is pretty much the same..LSP the whole nine..

One thing I want to mention though is that hopefully your drive is High RPM.. sometimes a large drive with a large MFT is slower.. so ... but its just a side note.. and from older hardware and drives in the past.. I would start with C, then D.. and onward from there... The MFT for Windows 7 is tiny..

My installation asked for a serial/key when I installed.. BUT.. I skipped it... and went forward did the activation later..

I also recommend on first fresh installation.. install Acronis use everything it has.. LOL and install WAIK.. ( Windows Automated Installation Kit )..

Also.. there is something out there called 'Take Ownership' .. This can be helpful.. but it also has a huge downside.. When you take ownership with it.. it doesn't add you.. it wipes all permissions and leaves only you to access it.. therefor creating a problem.. Leave permission on in accessible directories in Documents and Settings.. alone.. regardless.. These permission relate to your sharing access as well and vary once inside from directory to directory.. Users is where you need to be at for that.. so .. I almost made a mistake this time around with that.. Did the first time..LOL.. n someone else's ^_^ ...

I think you will love it.. really... just remember its different from XP and you will have to adjust and realize how it works, and why some applications don't.. but with small changes they will... has a habit of just not happening or giving an error message that doesn't say anything about running as an Admin nor does it state anything about Compatibility ( well it actually may but you still may have to adjust the properties..

If reconfiguring your Start Menu be careful about copying Shortcuts from account to account..

If it doesn't show then it will need to be installed.. ( also remember these are somewhere else now.. ) and you should make sure you remove anything you don't want LUA to even try to run.. You want these to be installed in the User account folder with their settings for them.. and not run as an administrator.. so that all things that go on.. stay and go on in their account ...

MOST IMPORTANTLY.. before you start turning things off, cleaning the registry... and modifying.. install what you want and how you want it.. make a backup of the registry..Some of these optimizations and others can change the behavior in ways you may not expect..

I was used to tweaking Windows XP to death.. I have done nothing but clean a few dead entries and things.. and I run as efficiently as I did with XP tweaked...

Once done do a once over with UD.. get the drives straightened up then go from there..

Familiarize yourself with LSP.. and make one change to your registry... I will come back with link...EDIT: LINK I still haven't finished this one area.. but Nessus scan ( which I can help you do ).. is advisable once done..

If you go with changing your sStyles ( not themes ) use the new VistaGlazz.. and only add your permission to the other files that need to be swapped per theme manually ( don't take ownership )

Anyway.. once your done scan you stuffs.. try Hitman or Prevx.. make sure you know whats in there.. and keep your Startup programs and services down to a minimum.. This can greatly effect it and if its personal programs.. its easy to run by hand.. some won't even startup unless they run as Admin by Default, or are put into the registry..

If you are going to run a server.. activate IIS 7.5 in your Features section... This one is touchy I am running with the basics.. but securely.. and have to write this service layer on my network... still..LOL..Whole new site... New territory for me.. used it before but not as my own or like this will be..

Don't be afraid to let some f those old goodies for XP go and step up to newer programs ... and new features... sometimes you just have to CHANGE.. ( jittering with excitability..LOL :w00t: ) Tear DOWN your IDOLS!!!.. :lmao:

ANyway let me know if you have anything specific... will be glad to help..

Going to go get that link...

EDIT: Link.. Okay this is as simple as changing the 0 to 1.. and it Restricts anonymous access.. its better explained by Nessus.. Anyway the first post.. in the quote... and the link in that one better explains it at Microsoft...

[DKT27]

Hmm. Thanx for all the advice. :)

Now while installing it, it will keep only one drive and then after installation I can make more partitions? Or will the installation allow me to make more partitions. I'm still confused in this point.

My HDD would be normal RPM guess it's about 7200RPM right?

ATM I can only guess what to do afterwards as I've never touched any Vista/Windows 7 before. But yea I'll bookmark your post. :D

[HX1]

Okay do you have your install disk? If so.. run it on XP ( it won't change anything up to that point.. ) BUT if you run the setup and go to a fresh install.. and see the place where you select the drive... if you look down at the bottom of the window it give you options of what to do with that drive.. You should be able to perform partitioning, formatting, and selection on that page on a fresh drive.. but going on in this far will give you an idea of what you will be doing.. just don't move forward with the install from that point.. ether power down.. or hot the close button on the window to cancel..

[DKT27]

Hmm. I fear trying it. :P

But I guess I can try it on VM.

[DKT27]

Tried it in VM but it said my current system isn't capable with 64bit. But I checked with Intel Processor ID. It says that my processor supports 64bit. So I guess I'll have to boot from it to know more. But I don't wanna risk it. :unsure:

EDIT: It seems we have a really useful guide here. See this page. Tell me what you think. I think my questions are answered. :D

[HX1]

I was going to do mine and take a screenshot but I figured you would get it..

As the picture shows.. you can make new partitions and format it all.. one of the reasons I suggested it as usually you can't wrong this way.. and it will work properly...

If you want, you COULD use a Boot utility to pre-partition and then just install to the one you want....so .. The last time I used a tool to do it.. it was several years ago with an older tool.. quite thorough but I started to get confused when it came to reserving space for partition tables and the size it needed to be.. so when you do it in Windows Setup its automate.. you tell what size and create and format then go on...

Like I said .. should be easy.. The weird thing is that there are some steps to that installation a shown that I never seen in mine.. Like settings up Windows registry screen.. didn't have it.. but who knows.. other than that it is pretty much an easy guide to follow wit some other very good notation...

EDIT: is it possible you've been running on an installed 32 Bit version of XP? Because that would be the only thing I could imagine that would stop the 64bt setup from running..

[DKT27]

Now I wanna understand it a bit more. After I make new partition, i wanna several others, so should I format all of them or just this.

I know I'm asking n00b questions but I'm not much used to installing windows lately.......

Yea you got it right. How it didn't come to my mind. I'm running 32bit XP and trying to install a 64bit OS in VM. :tooth:

I forgot one big thing. I wont be using any backup software. I will just install Windows 7. The will make a folder in it. Then will copy both my current HDDs into that folder. Then sort out the files I want. So the problem arrives is that one of my HDD contains XP. So if I attach that hdd during the boot I may get booted from XP. Will connecting the XP HDD after booting Windows 7 work. Like hot-swapping? Just that I'm not removing any HDD, just connecting one when the computer is running.

[HX1]

Yes Format a usual and install to the one you want..

I would say not to try it.. with the attaching afterwards... You can REALLY cause a problem.. not just for our drive but with your MOBO and other hardware.. and with it being new.. I would not start jacking it up or take a chance on it..

You will not be able to boot from the XP version more than likely because ( I think your on a new computer all together ) your hardware and drivers will more than likely not load.. AND when you try to access your old account folders..( while in 7 ).You will get denied access.. because these are owned by another SID.. which will show not present...

Okay this one is easy.. IF you are going to this as dual boot XP/Windows 7.. You will need to install XP one one partition or drive fresh.. then install Windows 7 on another partition.. This will make BootMGR give you the option to booting from 'Earlier Versions of Windows'.. The problem is going to come trying just copy your stuff.. OS and all over... Plus if your old drive is too old it won't attach the same way.. You can also choose in System Properties in the CP to boot from which installation first and how long to wait to choose..

EDIT2: There is a way to do this using the Network and a Server which could be slow.. but you would still be able to do it if no other way exists..

The reason I mentioned Acronis.. is it will save you time when restoring should anything happen for your new computer/OS.. it integrates a Loader you can use even.. but w/e if you don't want it.. Just a suggestion..Now of you chose to use it on the old one to transfer all of this over for a Dual-Boot system.. then truthfully I would say do it.. because you can transfer everything and leave system files in tact.. problem comes when you have registry entries and programs and things of the like that haven't been installed yet.. So you may have to rethink what your doing and how your going to pull it off a bit..

Personally.. during your days until your ready to go.. I would be sorting out what you want.. and be pulling it out of your old system...organized and ready for transfer to the new one.. Say good-bye to the old one.. put it in the boat.. and launch the arrow.. watch it burn...j/k.. LOL

Truthfully it won't do you any good..to hang on to it.. and try to transfer it over because of the new hardware and so on.. What will happen when it boots.. is that it will try to load the drivers for your old stuff..Video and so on.. and you could wind up in a repetitive BSOD loop...

Basically it will be a bunch of files laying there that won't be much good to anyone.. You personal files and stuff is different that you need.. but I would assume you already have all of that o something else...

EDIT: There used to be a tool in SysInternals that would let you change the SID of files..but I haven't seen it in a while.. and I am not for sure how easy it would be to just do the files for the XP section.. I would have to look into it..

[DKT27]

Is this the SysInternals one?

Well, I guess I'll transfer my(only needed) XP files placed on my IDE to my no OS sata. So I wont face any problems you've mentioned.

I wont be keeping any older HDDs. And no dual boots of XP and Windows 7. I'll dual boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu. But that's later. ATM I just wanna transfer my current files to new HDD and then give away my old HDDs after I use some assassin tool on them in hirens bootcd.

[HX1]

No this one was called ' newsid.exe ' It was a Microsoft Tool... I have it.. somewhere.. The first time I have heard of it was when some people were talking about how some licenses where connected directly to the SID.. and it made sure the license could not be transferred over to another system, even in a validation file... I have it somewhere...

Another weird trick.. is if you copy your data inside Documents and Settings in XP..( The rest should be fine ) over to a FAT file system or WinRAR them without keeping your File Security and Data Streams in tact, you should be able to access them easily.. The compressed versions of these files will and can keep them.. but place them directly on a FAT file system and there is nowhere to store the data since in fact these data steams must exist on NTFS ( reason they make you install on NTFS )... So you may not need it.. maybe.. You could also remove all owners users and permission from these files by booting into safe mode in XP and removing them.. ( you will have the Tab to do it in there from the Admin account.. or yours whichever.. )

The Network thing I mentioned will allow you download through your browser and browse the folders.. without a problem. Easiest way is to configure a Default installation of Apache as its Root Dir being C:/ or whatever drive its on..( I actually had no other way once and had it setup that way already..used BartPE to make a few small edits to the config file, ran httpd.exe and was able to get my files off the damaged PC by using another laptop and its HD..this way before hitting it with DBAN.. and re-installing )

Oh and I mentioned WAIK earlier.. having issues this morning even getting the thing to install... but I think I know what it is... I think its better geared for something else.. why every time I turn around something says to install it I don't know.. not happy with it this morning.. have to see how it goes..LOL

[DKT27]

I want a easy way. I just want to copy some files to new PC and soo many problems? :(

I don't have any FAT32 partition.

Tell me. Re-installing a OS will also make a new SID. Last time I re-installed XP. I was able to access all the folders afterwards. How would it be if I allow everyone to open every folder in documents and settings by properties > security tab? I mean I don't really need to worry about security ATM.

[Atasas]

I want a easy way. I just want to copy some files to new PC and soo many problems? :(

I don't have any FAT32 partition.

Tell me. Re-installing a OS will also make a new SID. Last time I re-installed XP. I was able to access all the folders afterwards. How would it be if I allow everyone to open every folder in documents and settings by properties > security tab? I mean I don't really need to worry about security ATM.

Gawd... try this:

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php

I promise you- dah best/easiest tool for anything partitions! :ph34r:

[HX1]

I really don't know for definite but it would seem so the two accounts I could not access I had made Private.. So it may have been something to do with it... For me it held true.. The reason I did it originally was if someone somehow brute forced my CMOS and Drive Encryption.. and got into the Safe Mode Admin account.. I did not want them to be able to access my files.. atleast I didn't want it to be easy.. because I have a tracker on my system I figured it MIGHT by time... and keep my data in tact on a Privacy note.. and it worked pretty much... But then again it was an after thought of perception and knowledge of the person hacking it.. as cracking the passwords would have been short work of the matter...

EDIT: One way to check is Boot into Safe Mode and see if you can access the Admin account folder and files from your account, and Vice Versa..( being yours needs to be an admin account ).. Then make the Admin Account Private in User Accounts.. and see..

BUT as you can see there as many holes in it as there are in IE6... ( I could sift flour with it ) So I tried some other things as well.. but always having access I never thought about it .. UNTIL I did the recent install and did a clone of my HD with XP using Acronis with everything permission and Security/Data Streams in place.. Same hardware with install over the XP without a Format I still can't access the Account folder in D&S ( could however access the Windows.old backups made by Windows 7 ) or add the Backup as a startup VHD ( in Acronis ) with it because its XP..( has to be Windows 7 ) and has the SID in place with a red 'X' and/or question mark on it.. But through various methods I can access it because the Security on XP is not really that good.. an area most people don't cover is Data and Privacy loss when your not running the system... Windows 7 is quite another story...( but I am sure it can be circumvented as well )

In fact I tried to even Take Ownership.. and even owning the file and having permissions had me locked out.. :P

[DKT27]

@Atasas: I'm done with the paritioning questions/problems. About FAT, no way I'm going to format my drive to an old partition system. And Windows 7 installer will be able to format the drives so no problems fore me. But thanks for offering. :)

@heath: I'm sure that I would be able to access the accounts if I keep the security policy of every drive or folder to full control to everyone. But I'd like to check with Hiren's Boot CD's mini xp mode. So what say, safe mode or mini xp mode in live cd?

[HX1]

I would go with Safe Mode.. reason being, in XP.. I can take BartPE or any boot disk that has a File Manager.. and I can go anywhere and do anything I want regardless of the security laid out by Windows XP.. from XP to XP no issues..Its when you go to Windows 7 to XP that Windows 7 and accompanying programs start paying attention to the security laid forth... so MiniXP probably will let you in no matter what...LOL Safe Mode will have and pay attention to your Security somewhat .. which will be closer to what Windows 7 will do.. and thats what you want to try to target..

In Windows 7 when I try to boot from a PE disk even Vista PE.. I still get permissions and access violations without the OS running... ( now with no windows system loaded of any kind.. then it might be different until you hit the Bit File Encryption .... ( then you might have an issue of access )...

Point being this would be easy going from XP to XP... and you have another factor to consider with Windows 7...

[DKT27]

I did try it in safe mode. At first Admin account was not visible at all. I always have everything non-hidden.

Then logged on the admin account. Set the privileges to "Everyone". All the folders now on my current PC are allowed full control. And now I can see three admin folders in D&S folder in normal boot. One is Administrator, second is Administrator.MY PC NAME, and the third one is Administrator.My PC Name.000. :blink:

But within all this. My hard drive cached 5-10 times. So I forgot to loggin to my current account in safe mode again to see if it works. :unsure:

[HX1]

Cache or crashed? .. Have you ever recovered your XP and did a reinstall? Sometimes it will do that when you reinstall and use a different Computer name.. Let me know when you check it again.. and MAKE SURE the account is not set on Private.. and be sure to check the differences in the two..

I had to make some more changes to 7 today... Coming from MBSA.. still have to check a few things.. I have so much going on right now its ridiculous..LOL.. atleast I am busy .. but maybe too busy..

[DKT27]

Sorry I meant crashed. :P

But some cpu opening and fixing it solved it.

Will check what you said.

[Atasas]

^did you?^