Matrix Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 In a letter to the US Department of Commerce, the RIAA is calling for stronger measures to curb piracy and counterfeiting that takes place through online marketplaces. The music group points out that copyright infringement is widespread on many services, including Amazon and eBay, where a significant percentage of the CDs and box-sets are sold without permission. Responding to a request from the US Department of Commerce, the RIAA submitted its views on several copyright infringement matters. Specifically, it informed the Government about counterfeit and pirated goods that pass through online third-party marketplaces, and what can be done about that. The music group sent a letter that encourages the Government to take action where possible. For example, by encouraging online platforms to share names and contact information of possible infringers. In addition, the Government can also clarify when online intermediaries should be held liable for acts carried out by sellers of counterfeit and pirated goods. When it comes to piracy and e-commerce platforms, the RIAA believes that any such changes should apply to mobile, Kodi or browser apps, and to the storefronts that distribute them. This refers to pirate apps on mobile stores, but also devices that are sold through Amazon and eBay. “As online commerce goes increasingly mobile and distributed, there shouldn’t be different rules that apply to apps that can access the Internet via any connected device, as opposed to just the traditional website,” the RIAA writes. When it comes to counterfeit goods, the RIAA is particularly concerned with large platforms that sell unauthorized music recordings. These counterfeit products are sold very frequently by large retailers, the music group explains. This year, the RIAA conducted two studies into the sale of counterfeit music. For the first, it made various tests buys on Amazon and eBay, focusing on current and evergreen album titles released by major U.S. record labels. This revealed that a significant portion of the CDs on these platforms are unauthorized. This is also true for the CDs that were marked as “fulfilled by Amazon.” “The study showed that 16% of the CDs purchased via eBay were counterfeit, and 11% of the CDs purchased via Amazon were counterfeit. Alarmingly, 25% of the purchased CDs that were ‘Fulfilled by Amazon’ were counterfeit,” the RIAA writes. In another study, the RIAA searched for “brand new” box sets of selected titles on eBay and AliExpress, and then bought the four lowest-priced box sets on each platform. The result, again, revealed that copyright infringement is rampant. “On both eBay and AliExpress, 100% of the test buys of the box sets were counterfeit. This is of particular concern as box sets are premium physical music products designed for the superfan that often contain the most significant sound recordings in an artist’s repertoire,” the RIAA notes. Where appropriate, platforms that willingly distribute copyright-infringing content should be held liable. At a minimum, these platforms should deter repeat infringers, the RIAA argues. The music group hopes that the US Department of Commerce will take its findings and comments into account and come up with possible solutions to curb piracy and counterfeiting on online platforms. A copy of the RIAA’s letter, providing input for the upcoming report on the state of counterfeit and pirated goods trafficking and recommendations, is available here (pdf). VIEW: Original Article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In a letter to the US Department of Commerce, the RIAA is calling for stronger measures to curb piracy and counterfeiting that takes place through online marketplaces. The music group points out that copyright infringement is widespread on many services, including Amazon and eBay, where a significant percentage of the CDs and box-sets are sold without permission. Responding to a request from the US Department of Commerce, the RIAA submitted its views on several copyright infringement matters. Specifically, it informed the Government about counterfeit and pirated goods that pass through online third-party marketplaces, and what can be done about that. The music group sent a letter that encourages the Government to take action where possible. For example, by encouraging online platforms to share names and contact information of possible infringers. In addition, the Government can also clarify when online intermediaries should be held liable for acts carried out by sellers of counterfeit and pirated goods. When it comes to piracy and e-commerce platforms, the RIAA believes that any such changes should apply to mobile, Kodi or browser apps, and to the storefronts that distribute them. This refers to pirate apps on mobile stores, but also devices that are sold through Amazon and eBay. “As online commerce goes increasingly mobile and distributed, there shouldn’t be different rules that apply to apps that can access the Internet via any connected device, as opposed to just the traditional website,” the RIAA writes. When it comes to counterfeit goods, the RIAA is particularly concerned with large platforms that sell unauthorized music recordings. These counterfeit products are sold very frequently by large retailers, the music group explains. This year, the RIAA conducted two studies into the sale of counterfeit music. For the first, it made various tests buys on Amazon and eBay, focusing on current and evergreen album titles released by major U.S. record labels. This revealed that a significant portion of the CDs on these platforms are unauthorized. This is also true for the CDs that were marked as “fulfilled by Amazon.” “The study showed that 16% of the CDs purchased via eBay were counterfeit, and 11% of the CDs purchased via Amazon were counterfeit. Alarmingly, 25% of the purchased CDs that were ‘Fulfilled by Amazon’ were counterfeit,” the RIAA writes. In another study, the RIAA searched for “brand new” box sets of selected titles on eBay and AliExpress, and then bought the four lowest-priced box sets on each platform. The result, again, revealed that copyright infringement is rampant. “On both eBay and AliExpress, 100% of the test buys of the box sets were counterfeit. This is of particular concern as box sets are premium physical music products designed for the superfan that often contain the most significant sound recordings in an artist’s repertoire,” the RIAA notes. Where appropriate, platforms that willingly distribute copyright-infringing content should be held liable. At a minimum, these platforms should deter repeat infringers, the RIAA argues. The music group hopes that the US Department of Commerce will take its findings and comments into account and come up with possible solutions to curb piracy and counterfeiting on online platforms. A copy of the RIAA’s letter, providing input for the upcoming report on the state of counterfeit and pirated goods trafficking and recommendations, is available here (pdf).
halvgris Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 my own study shows riaa and others are wasting money on this. stop wasting money on these studies no one cares. besides a non experienced buyer will believe any silver pressed cd with nice inlays are original anyhow. try something new for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 51 minutes ago, Mach1 said: the RIAA searched for “brand new” box sets of selected titles on eBay and AliExpress, and then bought the four lowest-priced box sets on each platform. Making the RIAA an accomplice of the infringement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 2 hours ago, mp68terr said: Making the RIAA an accomplice of the infringement. You must not even know who the RIAA is ? Its members consist of record labels and distributors .They own the copyright so there buying there own music that they own the rights too. it's called evidence .The problem is the people who are making copies don't own the rights to sell it. Back before the internet and when the internet was new they use to go around flea markets and Tape and CD shops and raid them with custom agents .They been around since the 1950s . CD BOOTLEGGERS FACE THE MUSIC July 14, 1997 https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1997/07/14/cd-bootleggers-face-the-music/f2af9db5-0bda-4015-bc41-0469e1b4a152/?noredirect=on If you get caught selling pirate media in the USA you can get 3 or 4 years in jail . In the UK you can get 10 years in jail just for uploading you don't have to be selling. In the USA if your not selling it's just a civil matter so it's up too right holders to sue you. Microsoft done the samething in Asia researching PCs loaded with pirated windows like last year. they own the rights to windows so it's evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Difficult not to know what the riaa is. Record labels and distributors should know the price of the items they produce/sell. The riaa acted knowingly and willfully when buying the lowest-priced sets, thus helping the market of copyright-infringing contents, even if trying to gather evidences. If they consider that these items/rights have been stolen from them, it could be possession of stolen goods. Gathering evidences is not a simple task and is often at the edge; even harder when the evidences are in/from another country. Buying items is probably not the same as raiding displayed ones. Would be interesting to have the point of view of lawyers about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, mp68terr said: Difficult not to know what the riaa is. Record labels and distributors should know the price of the items they produce/sell. The riaa acted knowingly and willfully when buying the lowest-priced sets, thus helping the market of copyright-infringing contents, even if trying to gather evidences. If they consider that these items/rights have been stolen from them, it could be possession of stolen goods. Gathering evidences is not a simple task and is often at the edge; even harder when the evidences are in/from another country. Buying items is probably not the same as raiding displayed ones. Would be interesting to have the point of view of lawyers about that. what the RIAA is doing is trying get the government to do more about it. Right Now it's sort of like they do to people on YouTube the RIAA reports you to Amazon and have your page removed . Policy Warning RIAA https://sellercentral.amazon.com/forums/t/policy-warning-riaa/417729 It's not nothing they not knew about it for years. One Out of Every 4 CDs Sold on Amazon Is Counterfeit October 31, 2016 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/10/31/amazon-counterfeit-cds/ They want too go after Amazon and eBay for allowing Chinese counterfeiters on there platforms . what it boils down too they losing lots of CD sales to counterfeits on legal sites and CD sales are down for them. Streaming & Vinyl Up In 2018; CD & Download Sales Down According To RIAA Report https://metalinjection.net/its-just-business/record-sales/streaming-cd-download-sales-down-according-to-riaa-report Same reason they going after YouTube and YouTube Rippers as they want to go after Amazon and eBay they losing sales on it. A few times they even went after cnet for having mp3 software downloads even RIAA again asks CNET to remove conversion software from Download.com. https://www.cnet.com/news/riaa-to-cnet-follow-google-nix-video-to-mp3-conversions/ But CNET want do it without a federal judge ruling it is against copyright laws. Google been blocking YouTube to mp3 sites since 2012 and still never stopped it. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachnoid Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Quote “The study showed that 16% of the CDs purchased via eBay were counterfeit, and 11% of the CDs purchased via Amazon were counterfeit. Alarmingly, 25% of the purchased CDs that were ‘Fulfilled by Amazon’ were counterfeit,” the RIAA writes. Alternately this could be read as 84% of the CDs they purchased after considering them counterfeits via eBay were not counterfeit after all, and 89% of the CDs purchased via Amazon they purchased after considering them counterfeits were not counterfeit after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Most pirates are not going to buy CDs to began with unless there blank CDs ,Ive not burned a music CD in years its a dead technology i been downloading mp3s for over 17 years now most all my local stuff came from legal music portals that has the drm removed that i got for free the others was ripped from CDs . Many pirates nowadays no longer download music at all , they stream music they think blocking ads with spotify is piracy . You can download open source Nuclear and stream music and not worry about ads at all it's just as easy as me clicking on my Brave Apps in my start menu and listing to spotify for free in the web player with and adblocker .Then i have Kodi with music addons , Good vibes internet radio app . Only time i even use my FM radio anymore is when the power goes out .With local downloads witch been around since napster and now with streaming who needs CDs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkc21 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 lol let me tell you not only music, it's everything!!! songs software videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, mkc21 said: lol let me tell you not only music, it's everything!!! songs software videos Software Piracy is almost dead except for what little the scene targets and a few web crackers .Back when i was testing the web scene were better than the real scene . We had all kinds of cracking teams once PCs stop selling good in 2011 it sort of died out. It's subjective to skill , It not like music and videos . Music piracy has slowed down a lot because of free legal sites , but ripping CD and removing drm from vulnerable music platforms you can use free open source software to do this . You can use shareware and open source to remove drm from DVDs and BLU-Ray but the scene not going to share there tools with us to rip drm protected video streams . And since it's available on 100s of websites there no need to rip your own like it was back when we were on dial up witch was too slow download or stream. Most free videos offering are and on top that geo locked so video piracy is still very active .Maybe one out of a 1000 TF articles will be about software piracy because most of it but few apps you can use a open source or free alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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