steven36 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 NBC News published a predictably viral story Friday, claiming that “experts who track websites and social media linked to Russia have seen stirrings of a possible campaign of support for Hawaii Democrat Tulsi Gabbard.” But the whole story was a sham: the only “experts” cited by NBC in support of its key claim was the firm, New Knowledge, that just got caught by the New York Times fabricating Russian troll accounts on behalf of the Democratic Party in the Alabama Senate race to manufacture false accusations that the Kremlin was interfering in that election. To justify its claim that Tulsi Gabbard is the Kremlin’s candidate, NBC stated: “analysts at New Knowledge, the company the Senate Intelligence Committee used to track Russian activities in the 2016 election, told NBC News they’ve spotted ‘chatter’ related to Gabbard in anonymous online message boards, including those known for fomenting right-wing troll campaigns.” What NBC – amazingly – concealed is a fact that reveals its article to be a journalistic fraud: that same firm, New Knowledge, was caught just six weeks ago engaging in a massive scam to create fictitious Russian troll accounts on Facebook and Twitter in order to claim that the Kremlin was working to defeat Democratic Senate nominee Doug Jones in Alabama. The New York Times, when exposing the scam, quoted a New Knowledge report that boasted of its fabrications: “We orchestrated an elaborate ‘false flag’ operation that planted the idea that the [Roy] Moore campaign was amplified on social media by a Russian botnet.'” That fraud was overseen by New Research’s CEO, Jonathon Morgan. At the same time Morgan was fabricating Russian troll accounts and using them to create a fraudulent appearance that Putin was trying to defeat the Democratic Senate candidate, he was exploiting his social media “expertise” to claim that Russians were interfering in the Alabama Senate election. In other words, Morgan used his own fake Russian accounts to lie to the public and deceive the national media into believing that Kremlin-linked accounts were trying to defeat the Democratic Senate candidate when, in fact, the accounts he was citing were ones he himself had fabricated and controlled. Even worse, Morgan’s firm is behind one of the recent Senate reports on Russian social media election interference as well as the creation of “Hamilton 68,” the pseudo-data-driven dashboard constantly used by U.S. media outlets to claim that its enemies are supported by the Kremlin (that tool has so been abused that even some of its designers urged the media to stop exaggerating its meaning). During the Alabama race, Morgan – in a tweet he deleted once his fraud was exposed – cited the #Hamilton68 data that he himself manipulated with his fake Russian accounts to claim that Russia was interfering in the Alabama Senate race: In response to this scam being revealed, Facebook closed the accounts of five Americans who were responsible for this fraud, including Morgan himself, the “prominent social media researcher” who is the CEO of New Knowledge. He also touts himself as a “State Dept. advisor, computational propaganda researcher for DARPA, Brookings Institution.” Beyond Morgan’s Facebook suspension, the billionaire funder and LinkedIn founder who provided the money for the New Knowledge project, Reid Hoffman, apologized and claimed he had no knowledge of the fraud. The victorious Democratic Senate candidate who won the Alabama Senate race and who repeatedly cited New Knowledge’s fake Russian accounts during the election to claim he was being attacked by Russian bots, Doug Jones, insisted he had no knowledge of the scheme and has now called for a federal investigation into New Knowledge. This is the group of “experts” on which NBC News principally relied to spread its inflammatory, sensationalistic, McCarthyite storyline that Gabbard’s candidacy is supported by the Kremlin. While NBC cited a slew of former FBI and other security state agents to speculate about why the Kremlin would like Gabbard, its claim that “experts” have detected the “stirrings” of such support came from this discredited, disgraced firm, one that just proved it specializes in issuing fictitious accusations against enemies of the Democratic Party that they are linked to Russia. Just marvel at how heavily NBC News relies on the disgraced New Knowledge to smear Gabbard as a favorite of Moscow: Experts who track inauthentic social media accounts, however, have already found some extolling Gabbard’s positions since she declared. Within a few days of Gabbard announcing her presidential bid, DisInfo 2018, part of the cybersecurity firm New Knowledge, found that three of the top 15 URLs shared by the 800 social media accounts affiliated with known and suspected Russian propaganda operations directed at U.S. citizens were about Gabbard. Analysts at New Knowledge, the company the Senate Intelligence Committee used to track Russian activities in the 2016 election, told NBC News they’ve spotted “chatter” related to Gabbard in anonymous online message boards, including those known for fomenting right-wing troll campaigns. The chatter discussed Gabbard’s usefulness. “A few of our analysts saw some chatter on 8chan saying she was a good ‘divider’ candidate to amplify,” said New Knowledge’s director of research Renee DiResta, director of research at New Knowledge. What’s particularly unethical about the NBC report is that it tries to bolster the credentials of this group by touting it as “the company the Senate Intelligence Committee used to track Russian activities in the 2016 election,” while concealing from its audience the fraud that this firm’s CEO just got caught perpetrating on the public on behalf of the Democratic Party. The only other so-called “expert” cited by NBC in support of its claim that Russian accounts are supporting Gabbard is someone named “Josh Russell,” who NBC identified as “Josh Russel.” Russell, or Russel, is touted by NBC as “a researcher and ‘troll hunter’ known for identifying fake accounts.” In reality, “Russel” is someone CNN last year touted as an “Indiana dad” and “amateur troll hunter” with a full-time job unrelated to Russia (he works as programmer at a college) and whose “hobby” is tracing online Russian accounts. So beyond the firm that just got caught in a major fraudulent scam fabricating Russian support to help the Democratic Party, that’s NBC’s only other vaunted expert for its claim that the Kremlin is promoting Gabbard: someone CNN just last year called an “amateur” who traces Russian accounts as a “hobby.” And even there, NBC could only cite Russel (sic) as saying that “he recently spotted a few clusters of suspicious accounts that retweeted the same exact text about Gabbard, mostly neutral or slightly positive headlines.” NBC also purported to rely on its own highly sophisticated analysis by counting the number of times Gabbard was mentioned by RT, Sputnik and Russia Insider, and then noting what it seems to regard as the highly incriminating fact that “Gabbard was mentioned on the three sites about twice as often as two of the best known Democratic possibilities for 2020, Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, each with 10 stories.” But in contrast to Gabbard, who announced her intent to run for President almost a month ago, neither Biden nor Sanders has done so. Perhaps that fact, rather than – as one of the NBC reporters adolescently gushed: “The Kremlin already has a crush on Tulsi Gabbard” – is what explains the greater amount of coverage? Quote The Kremlin already has a crush on Tulsi Gabbard https://t.co/bCpTdWG0Bo — Ben Popken (@bpopken) February 2, 2019 In any event, NBC News, to smear Gabbard as a Kremlin favorite, relied on a group that it heralded as “experts” without telling its audience about the major fraud which this firm just got caught perpetrating in order – on behalf of the Democratic Party – to fabricate claims of Kremlin interference in the Alabama Senate race. That’s because the playbook used by the axis of the Democratic Party, NBC/MSNBC, neocons and the intelligence community has been, is and will continue to be a very simple one: to smear any adversary of the establishment wing of the Democratic Party – whether on the left or the right – as a stooge or asset of the Kremlin (a key target will undoubtedly be, indeed already is, Bernie Sanders). To accomplish this McCarthyite goal, this Democratic Party coalition of neocons, intelligence operatives and NBC stars will deceive, smear and even engage in outright journalistic deception, as NBC (once again) just proved with this report. Source Hows that for US mainstream news propaganda ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dMog Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 and yet NOBODY talks about the crap fox news says and does Bottom line, politics is not a business for widows and orphans or the faint of heart, because the the big fish often get eaten alive the little ones do not stand a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 20 minutes ago, dMog said: and yet NOBODY talks about the crap fox news says and does Bottom line, politics is not a business for widows and orphans or the faint of heart, because the the big fish often get eaten alive the little ones do not stand a chance Most sites i visit don't be posting Fox News .. I don't even post Fox news unless not about politics .. But fact is Fox News have a much higher viewership than NBC on cable in the USA for many years they been the 1# viewed network on TV in the USA tells you most people dont even watch NBC news. If you Google the News what do you see? Not Fox in Google News , it be mostly center and left wing news sites . The reason you don't see much said about Fox the left don't want to give them no publicity be it negative or positive because they make way more money than others do anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dMog Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 that still does not stop the fact that fox news was brought into existence and remains today, a political arm and mouthpiece of one particular party. Fox News has also posted extreme amounts of untruth, purposefully misguided facts or just plain opinion disguised as news, even if one is apolitical you have to admit if you are pointing fingers at biased news coverage fox news get overlooked all the time for the bias they have always admitted is the basis of their coverage. news is news opinion is something totally and far different from actual news and fox has always blurred that line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 42 minutes ago, dMog said: that still does not stop the fact that fox news was brought into existence and remains today, a political arm and mouthpiece of one particular party. Fox News has also posted extreme amounts of untruth, purposefully misguided facts or just plain opinion disguised as news, even if one is apolitical you have to admit if you are pointing fingers at biased news coverage fox news get overlooked all the time for the bias they have always admitted is the basis of their coverage. news is news opinion is something totally different news and fox has always blurred that line Fox News are only considered a right wing news site by the left anymore . Most people on the Right consider them to be far to the left to be right wing there like bloomberg there more to the center than they are the right. A real Right Wing news station would be OAN News,. As far as I know when FOX News got caught doing things they made the news just like CNN ,NYT and NBC do. they have a whole page on it at wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_controversies The difference in NBC doing it wikipedia don't have a whole page on them, that kind of behavior is normal for CNN and FOX it's well documented at lest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC_News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dMog Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 fox news takes days to make retractions, that is IF they make a retraction at all. others do it right away when proven wrong, and are proven wrong FAR less than fox. if one is going to post about ANY news site making false or misleading stories they should not just point them out from one single source when there are others that are doing far more of it...especially when pointing out political news ...it just makes them look biased themselves when they totally overlook one of the biggest biased sites going, now if you were to say you never quote info wars you would have had creds... it does seem you see fox as biased though but again you never seem to point them out, only single out others that perhaps do not agree with your personal views? If so it does not excuse the wrong that sites do that happen to agree with you. Or, they do not agree with you, it is interesting as to why you never point out their wrongs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dMog Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 the thing is these two competing news sites constantly are reporting black to be white as the other site reports white to be black... both cannot be right, but one thing is certain, using a political yardstick to measure truth is always wrong. NO SINGLE PARTY has all the right or correct ways and means to do everything all the time, and that is my point here...too many people are led to believe otherwise on both sides of the equation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, dMog said: fox news takes days to make retractions, that is IF they make a retraction at all. others do it right away when proven wrong, and are proven wrong FAR less than fox. if one is going to post about ANY news site making false or misleading stories they should not just point them out from one single source when there are others that are doing far more of it...especially when pointing out political news ...it just makes them look biased themselves when they totally overlook one of the biggest biased sites going, now if you were to say you never quote info wars you would have had creds... it does seem you see fox as biased though but again you never seem to point them out, only single out others that perhaps do not agree with your personal views? If so it does not excuse the wrong that sites do that happen to agree with you. Or, they do not agree with you, it is interesting as to why you never point out their wrongs Well both CNN and Fox News both have whole pages of things they do wrong at wikipedia here is CNN page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN_controversies What the hell do Fox News got to do with NBC News slandering the left in favor of the mainstream Democratic party they done the same thing to Bernie Sanders and failed to get HRC elected if they would of stayed out of it ,things may not even be the way they are now? This topic is not about Fox News they are not the ones who done it stay on topic. Last I checked 2 wrongs don't make a right .Fox-news is a whole other topic when they mess up again and i 'm sure they will ,post the topic. I don't appreciate you coming in a topic i started and start going on about some mainstream right winged news site that has nothing to do with the topic .I'm not a right winger I'm a independent and what NBC done concerns me. Also this is proof that the Democratic party are making up non existent Russian Trolls and trying blame there losses off on Russia and got in the way of the peace process . Even after they done all that ,all you want to do is say, look at what this right winged site did like it justify what NBC done when it don't . 2 wrongs don't make a right. Some of the Democrats are the trolls if you don't believe me go to reddit any day of the week and see them hating on other countries and on the independent and right wing parties. The main news subs are over run with left winged trolls that sit around and judge people all day . I come here to get away from hearing them talk bad about people, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dMog Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 i am not vilifying political parties by name...you are. What I am saying is both do it..you, on the other hand, tend to only vilify one single party and totally discount wrongdoing of the other...gives you no credibility at all when you must obviously see wrong on both parties, or do you pretend one party never does wrong or actually think that to be true. Or just never report one but cherry pick the bad and not so bad of the other party as your proof of them being wrong all the time. In other words simply put, WHY do logic and objectivity become the first casualty in politics. The best things that ever comes of ANY democratically elected government is when BOTH PARTIES work for the common good of the Country as opposed to the power of one party over the other party. I have never seen the USA so divided as it is now, it seems your country is on the verge of another civil war, and for what, over what and why does nobody in power seem to wish NOT to stop it BUT to work on ensuring even more divisiveness. strongly suggest you let all that become rhetorical questioning, and not answer here...this thread most likely is about to be shut down before it gets too heavy ... again i am not looking for a political fight but wish things to improve in this world... starting with the USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 40 minutes ago, dMog said: i am not vilifying political parties by name...you are. What I am saying is both do it..you, on the other hand, tend to only vilify one single party and totally discount wrongdoing of the other...gives you no credibility at all when you must obviously see wrong on both parties, or do you pretend one party never does wrong or actually think that to be true. Or just never report one but cherry pick the bad and not so bad of the other party as your proof of them being wrong all the time. In other words simply put, WHY do logic and objectivity become the first casualty in politics. The best things that ever comes of ANY democratically elected government is when BOTH PARTIES work for the common good of the Country as opposed to the power of one party over the other party. I have never seen the USA so divided as it is now, it seems your country is on the verge of another civil war, and for what, over what and why does nobody in power seem to wish NOT to stop it BUT to work on ensuring even more divisiveness. strongly suggest you let all that become rhetorical questioning, and not answer here...this thread most likely is about to be shut down before it gets too heavy ... again i am not looking for a political fight but wish things to improve in this world... starting with the USA Still what you say has nothing to with this topic so why bother to comment at all ? if you have nothing to add to the topic , if you want to get that rant of a message across go speak before congress because it just bores me . The USA has always been divided and far worse than it is now . it was so divided before the civil war ,we was so divided, we had a war and killed each other, we were split in two at one time. Then after we came back together, minorities didn't even get equal rights tell like a 100 years latter. Things just got a little better was all, but the division we have has always been here, it never went away. It even goes back further than that before we became a nation and was ruled under the British Empire .Part of the people were for the British and part of them were not and that's how we became a nation is being divided and coming together when needed. We had our freedom long before the British Empire left Canada in the frontier days governing all the trade. We had to fight for ours. Quote From the sound up in Long Island out to San Francisco Bay And ev'ry thing that's in between them is our home And we may have done a little bit of fighting amongst ourselves But you outside people best leave us alone Cause we'll all stick together and you can take that to the bank That's the cowboys and the hippies and the rebels and the yanks You just go and lay your head on a Pittsburgh Steeler fan And I think you're gonna finally understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Claim Russia do this and do that and soon u see more bs russia did this and did that and is doing this but yes like both u have said cold war is on nowdays i think with us and russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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