kasper Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Local media carried reports that some of them were trapped on the roof of the building as 40 fire engines and 200 firefighters tackled the blaze. The London Fire Brigade said two people received treatment for smoke inhalation whilst city police said that a number of people were being treated for various injuries. Specialist medical teams were also called into to deal with fire related injuries. Police have set up a wide cordon around Grenfell Tower, which was built in 1974, as they fear it could collapse. Source http://www.euronews.com/2017/06/14/fire-engulfs-london-tower-block https://www.rt.com/uk/392135-west-london-tower-inferno/ http://news.sky.com/story/west-london-fire-live-fire-service-chief-confirms-there-have-been-fatalities-10915010 http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-40269625 http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/13/europe/london-fire-live-updates/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufus Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Many residents who gathered outside the smoldering ruins of the building said the fire had been caused by a faulty fridge in one of the flats, but the fire service told MailOnline it could not confirm the reports at this stage http://countdowntozerotime.com/2017/06/14/london-massive-building-fire-multiple-people-trapped-jump-off-grenfell-tower-in-notting-hill-london-never-seen-anything-like-it/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubhouse Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Awful, 17 dead and the number will rise..This is a disgrace and bought about by lack of finance..The officials who authorised this so called "improvement" must be identified and pay with long prison sentences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tao Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Grenfell Tower fire: This is what you can do to help: < http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/40272565/grenfell-tower-fire-this-is-what-you-can-do-to-help > A Refusal To Mourn The Death, By Fire, Of A Child In London - by Dylan Thomas: Never until the mankind making Bird beast and flower Fathering and all humbling darkness Tells with silence the last light breaking And the still hour Is come of the sea tumbling in harness And I must enter again the round Zion of the water bead And the synagogue of the ear of corn Shall I let pray the shadow of a sound Or sow my salt seed In the least valley of sackcloth to mourn The majesty and burning of the child's death. I shall not murder The mankind of her going with a grave truth Nor blaspheme down the stations of the breath With any further Elegy of innocence and youth. Deep with the first dead lies London's daughter, Robed in the long friends, The grains beyond age, the dark veins of her mother, Secret by the unmourning water Of the riding Thames. After the first death, there is no other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virge Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Spoiler Experts have said a blaze like this in a tower block was 'a disaster waiting to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 86 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 RIP for the dead, this is a tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togijak Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 When 17 people die by terror, the screaming is great, if there are other reasons, there are hardly any consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc71520 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 U.K. again. As deadly as a terrorist attack... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy2004 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Actually its LONDON again.. guess they can't get a break.. what with 3 attacks by muslims..was it 3... the single muslim stabbing the PC outside, the 3 armed muslims stabbing and killing at will, oh and another one which was stopped before it started, one muslim who got flattened before trying to get on a bus, and now this.. I'm just waiting for the truth about how it started.. i have my idea of HOW and WHO... but so far someone's said it was a fridge exploding??? I've never heard of that ever happening before, but i guess its possible.. but still not what I think happened, but will see.. I'm not posting what i think started it, in case my idea was correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straycat19 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 15 minutes ago, andy2004 said: but so far someone's said it was a fridge exploding??? Possible, refrigerators contain compressors, and it would be possible for it to explode because of high pressure, but this contains Freon (old fridges) or Hydrochlorofluorocarbon (new fridges), which doesn't burn. Though an electrical short in the compressor pump would be able to cause a fire if there were surrounding combustible materials. So, possible yes. But there would be early signs of the fire if the occupant were home, such as a burning odor, then later visible smoke, and finally flames. And even then there would have been early signs in neighboring apartments. It seems like it went up too fast and without any warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nIGHT Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 What happened to their sprinklers and smoke detectors? It appears that the exterior of the building were flammable. My sympathy to the victims and their families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straycat19 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Information concerning construction from the BBC and Telegraph webpages. The fire safety advice for Grenfell Tower residents was to "stay put" - unless the fire was affecting their own flat. David Sibert, Fire Brigade Union fire safety expert, said: "The principle that tower blocks are built on is that every flat is a fire-resisting box - every flat is completely surrounded by fire-resisting construction from the rest of the building. "So you should be able to set fire to your own flat and leave it to completely burn out and it won't affect anybody else in the building." Experts said the fire spread at unusual speed and raised concerns whether the cladding may have contributed to this. The tower, which was built in 1974, recently underwent a major refurbishment. It also emerged the cladding used in Grenfell Tower was behind a rapidly spreading blaze at a tower block in Melbourne in 2014. An eighth-floor fire raced up 13 floors to the roof of the 21-storey building in 11 minutes. The spread was “directly associated” with the external cladding, said the fire brigade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubhouse Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 That is the really worrying thing, lets suppose it was a kitchen fire of some sort, how on earth can that lead to a 24 storey block of flats (apartments in USA) be completely engulfed from the ground floor to the 24th floor in 30 mins!...There is something VERY wrong with building regulations and its clearly a disaster waiting to happen again in other so called renovated blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tao Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 At least 58 feared dead in London tower fire, PM May admits failings Please read it < here >. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 this lady not happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, knowledge said: this lady not happy UK government got nothing to say? lol DJ Ila for president!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tao Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Would a White British Community Have Burned in Grenfell Tower? Please, if interested, read it < here >. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, adi said: Would a White British Community Have Burned in Grenfell Tower? Please, if interested, read it < here >. Just look at that, first the government tries to hide and show the victims are a lot less than the real number, then we see most of these are Muslims. I can recognize some Persian words as well. what was the cause anyway? wasn't it a terrorist attack done by Christians in a stupid retaliation to recent UK attacks done by terrorists? plot thickens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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