LeeSmithG Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Sup gangstas! Is this o.k.? New processor, want to make sure it's good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israeli_Eagle Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 CPU Voltage is a bit too high and Temp Core displays wrongly VID-NB (still a bug), but even more way too high (standard would be 1.1375V)! So better check with CPU-Z and maybe you should check the BIOS version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALLONN7 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 If it's running stable... It's pretty fine!!! In any case, please share mobo brand / model / BIOS... What are you using to overclock?! Mobo BIOS or an app?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israeli_Eagle Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, WALLONN7 said: What are you using to overclock?! Mobo BIOS or an app?! Hopefully only BIOS settings, because AMD OverDrive sets wrong voltages for FX 83xx. Was never upgraded for these CPUs... And CPU voltage is very useful for overclocking, but usually never needed for CPU-NB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeSmithG Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 Hello and thanks for the replies! Here is what I gained. Windows 10 Manager - System Information v1.9 (Hardware) Basic Hardware information Enclosure: System Enclosure Chassis Types: Desktop Manufacturer: Chassis Manufacture Serial Number: Chassis Serial Number Lock Present: False Security Status: None Mainboard: System Product Name Basic I/O System (BIOS): BIOS Date: 11/18/16 08:57:16 Ver: 05.02 Central Processing Unit (CPU): AMD FX(tm)-8300 Eight-Core Processor Physical Memory X 4 8GB 8GB 8GB 8GB Hard Disk X 2 Corsair Neutron XTI SSD ATA Device (0.9TB) Seagate Expansion Desk SCSI Disk Device (1.8TB) Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Monitor: AOC 2470W1E Audio Device X 4 HD Pro Webcam C920 Realtek High Definition Audio NVIDIA High Definition Audio DFX Audio Enhancer Network Adapter Ethernet - Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (Connected) Keyboard: Microsoft Hardware USB Keyboard Mouse: Microsoft Hardware USB Mouse Invalid or Disabled Devices Unknown USB Device (Device Descriptor Request Failed) Manufacturer: (Standard USB Host Controller) Service: Device ID: USB\VID_0000&PID_0002\5&6032F3F&0&2 PNP Device ID: USB\VID_0000&PID_0002\5&6032F3F&0&2 Class Guid: {36fc9e60-c465-11cf-8056-444553540000} Error: Unknown Hardware Score (Base score: 7) Processor (Calculations per second): 7.9 Memory (Memory Operation per second): 7.9 Graphics (Desktop performance for Windows Aero): 8.3 Gaming graphics (3D business and gaming graphics performance): 9.9 Primary hard disk (Disk data transfer rate): 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALLONN7 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, LeeSmithG said: Mainboard: System Product Name Basic I/O System (BIOS): BIOS Date: 11/18/16 08:57:16 Ver: 05.02 Try CPU-Z... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israeli_Eagle Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Win10 is (sorry) only trash for such... We still not see the motherboard and BIOS version. 13 minutes ago, WALLONN7 said: Try CPU-Z... CPU-Z for the clock & voltage and also motherboard & version. Example: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALLONN7 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, Israeli_Eagle said: We still not see the motherboard and BIOS version. CPU-Z for the clock & voltage and also motherboard & version. I've never had erroneous information about motherboard and BIOS provided by CPU-Z... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israeli_Eagle Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 20 minutes ago, WALLONN7 said: I've never had erroneous information about motherboard and BIOS provided by CPU-Z... Yes, for such is CPU-Z the best! But only the main CPU voltage, not CPU-NB which displays CoreTemp bugly. And too high CPU-NB can fry the chipset quite fast... Here as example you can see the standard CPU-NB (1.1375V): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeSmithG Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 Here is CPU-Z v1.7.9 x64 information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israeli_Eagle Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 17 minutes ago, LeeSmithG said: Here is CPU-Z v1.7.9 x64 information. Ok... The normal CPU Voltage is ok (overclocked). If you have ever any weird crash then rise the CPU voltage to 1.25V. Only the CPU-NB voltage to chipset (from CoreTemp) is already way too high. In CoreTemp I also saw that most probably Turbo-Clocks are enabled which is not good, because when overclocked then turbos are actually downclocking and not every BIOS can set all 3 clocks (most only base clock). So the Turbos are quite useless anyway and better disable them. And also send the tab of Mainboard, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 The first core is downclocked btw those who saying voltage is too high, have no idea about AMD Chipsets. Voltage is extremely great, AMD have different pipe design, that more Voltage use less wattage because of their pipes. AMD CPU can work even with 1.6V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israeli_Eagle Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 39 minutes ago, saeed_dc said: The first core is downclocked Exactly... And only one core can have the highest Turbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALLONN7 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 2 hours ago, LeeSmithG said: Here is CPU-Z v1.7.9 x64 information. No mobo / BIOS info yet... Select mainboard tab... post its image... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeSmithG Posted May 2, 2017 Author Share Posted May 2, 2017 Hello again, hope one is keeping up with this saga. Here is some more information: https://valid.x86.fr/72rfq0 Only problems I have suffered, is a frozen screen saver twice, probably caused by RollBackRX Pro, happened before. Couple of times didn't come out of sleep had to cold boot. I appreciate every ones responses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israeli_Eagle Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 1 hour ago, LeeSmithG said: Hello again, hope one is keeping up with this saga. Here is some more information: https://valid.x86.fr/72rfq0 Only problems I have suffered, is a frozen screen saver twice, probably caused by RollBackRX Pro, happened before. Couple of times didn't come out of sleep had to cold boot. I appreciate every ones responses The weird part is that the motherboard uses the ChipSet AMD 780G (from 2009) and is only AM3 (but not AM3+). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_700_chipset_series So sadly it's not fully supported for CPU FX Vishera and needs usually minimum AMD 970. Hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALLONN7 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 1 hour ago, LeeSmithG said: Hello again, hope one is keeping up with this saga. Here is some more information: https://valid.x86.fr/72rfq0 Only problems I have suffered, is a frozen screen saver twice, probably caused by RollBackRX Pro, happened before. Couple of times didn't come out of sleep had to cold boot. I appreciate every ones responses Thanks for complete info... Not returning from sleep seems OS problem to me, not hardware... If these are the only issues you've faced I'd consider your system as stable... I speak hardware side... 29 minutes ago, Israeli_Eagle said: The weird part is that the motherboard uses the ChipSet AMD 780G (from 2009) and is only AM3 (but not AM3+). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_700_chipset_series So sadly it's not fully supported for CPU FX Vishera and needs usually minimum AMD 970. Hmmm... Chipset does support FX CPUs via BIOS implementation... But it has its lacks, I agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israeli_Eagle Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 I found a bit more here: https://community.amd.com/thread/211453 I can sadly only agree: "not appropriate for powerful FX CPU" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeSmithG Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 On 02/05/2017 at 9:44 AM, Israeli_Eagle said: I found a bit more here: https://community.amd.com/thread/211453 I can sadly only agree: "not appropriate for powerful FX CPU" Well the system decided to die last Wednesday, will be getting replacements tomorrow. So hopefully problem will be sorted. Thata why I originally posted as there was something bothering me. Changing the m.o.b.o. to a Gigabyte. I realised there was problems as even from a night of sleep processor temperatures was around 47 degrees Celsius. Another point was the 120 c.m. front fan sounded clunky. On cold boot I got past the first screen however all I got was a grey screen. So many clues evolved telling me I got sold poor electronics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALLONN7 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, LeeSmithG said: Changing the m.o.b.o. to a Gigabyte. I'm a Gigabyte mobo user and I commercialize mounted computers only having them as a base. Which model did you buy?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Israeli_Eagle Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 hour ago, LeeSmithG said: Well the system decided to die last Wednesday, will be getting replacements tomorrow. So hopefully problem will be sorted. Thata why I originally posted as there was something bothering me. Changing the m.o.b.o. to a Gigabyte. I realised there was problems as even from a night of sleep processor temperatures was around 47 degrees Celsius. Another point was the 120 c.m. front fan sounded clunky. On cold boot I got past the first screen however all I got was a grey screen. So many clues evolved telling me I got sold poor electronics. Well........... I have a good reason that I would never buy any ready-made PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeSmithG Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 29 minutes ago, Israeli_Eagle said: Well........... I have a good reason that I would never buy any ready-made PC. I agree but....... The ready built P.C. had the exact components except the s.s.d. and normally I build my own systems, except this saved me a few pounds and I get three (3) years warranty rather than one (1). So I thought let someone else do the work. Maybe not in the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeMasteR Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 All that bla bla, it's a PITA. You have normal values. Your hardware is fine. Pre-made setups are often okayish, more often too pricey compared to custom builds, it's not a secret. With like 100 bucks spend more more, you could hive it to something more beefy. Almost every month new hardware comes out, i'm 100% sure some people with custom setups are going to bite their a$$ for not waiting a month longer. Repeat every month, there is no perfect setup and i understand there are people not going to waste their time with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeSmithG Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 On 2017-5-10 at 1:08 AM, n0_risk! said: All that bla bla, it's a PITA. You have normal values. Your hardware is fine. Pre-made setups are often okayish, more often too pricey compared to custom builds, it's not a secret. With like 100 bucks spend more more, you could hive it to something more beefy. Almost every month new hardware comes out, i'm 100% sure some people with custom setups are going to bite their a$$ for not waiting a month longer. Repeat every month, there is no perfect setup and i understand there are people not going to waste their time with that. The melts sent me a replacement. Wow I was shocked, video card did not work, DvD drive did not work, the connector for the side fans was tied with ties on opposite side of unit, so unless ties were cut off one could not connect and run fans, the fan connector had a metal pin sticking out and further more they returned and old power cable with a bent up pin so could not be plugged in, it was filthy. So I am doing my own, parts will be here in next few days. A question, s.s.d. does not work in a caddy, never worked in a caddy when my previous system ran, worked fine in a system running windows, shows up in bios and also on boot showed RollBackRX signature but did not boot after that, I think or should say hope it works, should it be still o.k. I will uninstall RollBacRX by pressing home then pop in windows install disk see from there, what do you greatest minds think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted May 13, 2017 Administrator Share Posted May 13, 2017 Good to hear that you have decided to make it yourself. If you need any help then let us know about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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