Western states block Russia’s initiatives to investigate Syria chemical attack

[dufus]

Western states block Russia’s initiatives to investigate Syria chemical attack

21.04.2017 | Source: 

Pravda.Ru

 

AP photo

Russia continues to insist on investigation into the chemical attack in Syria's Idlib Province. However, Western countries block Russia's initiatives on the matter. The Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, without explanation, blocked Russia's suggestions to send experts to the area of the alleged chemical attack, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said.

According to Lavrov, the OPCW prohibited sending specialists to the scene of the incident. "This has demonstrated the complete failure of the position of our Western colleagues," Lavrov said.

The minister added that Western countries obviously intend to change the ruling regime in Syria. The false information about the alleged use of chemical weapons by the Syrian government "is used to avoid the implementation of Resolution 2254, which provides for a political settlement involving all Syrian parties, and switch to the long-cherished idea of regime change," Lavrov stated.

Several days ago, Russia found a number of inconsistencies in photos from the site of the chemical attack in Syria's Idlib province. Russia provided the evidence to experts of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) claiming that the chemical attack may have been staged.

Pravda.Ru

http://www.pravdareport.com/news/russia/kremlin/21-04-2017/137571-russia_syria_chemical-0/

No shills just normal peoples reply not personal words either very serious stuff

[dMog]

should really  shut this one down now as we all know by post 5 it will be a three ring circus

 

[WALLONN7]

13 minutes ago, dMog said:

should really  shut this one down now as we all know by post 5 it will be a three ring circus

 

 

Calm down...

Who knows things go in a different way this time...

[dMog]

well aside from the fact that ASSAD  actually dropped, has dropped chemical and will continue to drop weapons on his own people is now secondary to the truth I really do not see why there should be a problem with Russia "investigating " this incedent....not to mention Russian air force  themselves dropping a bomb on the hospital a few hours later and Assad claiming that the "victims" were not really hurt..and also Assad claiming the victims were all acting for the cameras...yea no real issues at all

[nIGHT]

My news source are CNN, 3 national tv news channels and topics here on nSane.

Pretty much lost on the current events and the real truth behind it.

 

I remember few years ago we had two members here.

They have same religion, they belong to the same country (Syria) but differs on political views.

They both post different facts and videos claiming one is fabricating the other just like what is happening now, referring to the recently locked topic.

They also got the mannequin post videos as I can remember claiming the other sides' videos were fake and just acting to show such alleged horrific event.

They both debunked one another and they really got mad at each other.

Most of the topics these two got involved were either locked or hidden.

They both demonstrated hatred here on nSane.

Then the war intensify in Syria, I never heard from any of them anymore.

Or, maybe they got banned and re-registered and changed nicks here?

How are those two nSane brother of ours?

I hope they're fine and safe, as well as their families.

I forgot their nicks already.

But one thing is clear, repeating what they did here, at that time, does not solve problems but only fasten the incoming war (for them in Syria).

 

It seems topics like these just escalates the matters up to the point it becomes irreconcilable and just fuels hatred.

My brothers and sisters here on nSane, I hope we may find a way to prevent war than fuel it.

Who started what, who lies and how to stop the ongoing conflict? I don't know.

But instead of fueling hatred to our people against the people of other countries, we should stay passive and not be hostile on any way.

Nobody's going to win this war and the conflict of these superpowers will destroy this little fragile planet.

 

 

 

 

[dufus]

3 hours ago, dufus said:

No shills just normal peoples reply not personal words either very serious stuff

 

[nIGHT]

These three youtube videos will show you how Americans in USA and Russians think about of each other.

 

 

 

The people on both sides actually want to be friends with the people on the other country.

 

 

[nIGHT]

Sorry @dufus, I meant no disrespect, but we need to spread love and friendliness.

[dufus]

of course they do it psychopaths in government finance and military who do not

5 minutes ago, nIGHT said:

These three youtube videos will show you how Americans in USA and Russians think about of each other.

 

 

 

The people on both sides actually want to be friends with the people on the other country.

 

 

 

[dufus]

4 minutes ago, nIGHT said:

I meant no disrespect, but we need to spread love and friendliness.

none taken we are on same side we need to spread awareness also or none of that will be enough

[dufus]

UN accuses Syrian rebels of carrying out sarin gas attacks which had been blamed on Assad's troops

• Carla Del Ponte said UN Commission investigating war crimes in Syria has 'strong, concrete suspicions' that rebels used chemical weapons
• Her remarks contradict statements by the U.S. and UK which said intelligence indicated Syrian soldiers used the weapons
• Today fighting continued across Syria as rebels advanced on a northern airbase and shot down helicopter in the east

By DAMIEN GAYLE and MAIL FOREIGN SERVICE

PUBLISHED: 14:18 BST, 6 May 2013 | UPDATED: 07:31 BST, 7 May 2013

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320223/UN-accuses-Syrian-rebels-carrying-sarin-gas-attacks-blamed-Assads-troops.html

history repeating

[steven36]

5 minutes ago, dufus said:

By DAMIEN GAYLE and MAIL FOREIGN SERVICE

PUBLISHED: 14:18 BST, 6 May 2013 | UPDATED: 07:31 BST, 7 May 2013

Wikipedia bans Daily Mail as 'unreliable' source

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Online encyclopaedia editors rule out publisher as a reference citing ‘reputation for poor fact checking and sensationalism’

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/08/wikipedia-bans-daily-mail-as-unreliable-source-for-website

 

[dufus]

U.N. has testimony that Syrian rebels used sarin gas: investigator

 

 

 

U.N. human rights investigators have gathered testimony from casualties of Syria's civil war and medical staff indicating that rebel forces have used the nerve agent sarin, one of the lead investigators said on Sunday.The United Nations independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law, said commission member Carla Del Ponte"Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated," Del Ponte said in an interview with Swiss-Italian television.

"This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities," she added, speaking in Italian.Del Ponte, a former Swiss attorney-general who also served as prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, gave no details as to when or where sarin may have been used.The Geneva-based inquiry into war crimes and other human rights violations is separate from an investigation of the alleged use of chemical weapons in Syria instigated by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, which has since stalled.President Bashar al-Assad's government and the rebels accuse each another of carrying out three chemical weapon attacks, one near Aleppo and another near Damascus, both in March, and another in Homs in Decembehttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-crisis-un-idUSBRE94409Z20130505

will rothchild rag do

 

 

 

[steven36]

5 hours ago, dufus said:

Pravda.Ru

 

The Russians  killed  this newspaper once after 84 Years  of fake news  and the Communist party brought  it back from the grave.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pravda

 

[dufus]

try this

[steven36]

The whole pravda about Russian propaganda

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t’s an absurd situation; more people read articles on the danger of Russian propaganda than the propaganda itself

https://www.opendemocracy.net/od-russia/moritz-gathmann-colleagues/whole-pravda-about-russian-propaganda

 

1 hour ago, dufus said:

need to spread awareness

 There is more people read about the fact the news you post  is propaganda than actually reads it!

 

If you look at the comments  here  at this addon  More Russian  users use it than anybody.

 

Stop Russian Propaganda

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stop-russian-propaganda/

 

[steven36]

5 hours ago, dMog said:

well aside from the fact that ASSAD  actually dropped, has dropped chemical and will continue to drop weapons on his own people is now secondary to the truth I really do not see why there should be a problem with Russia "investigating " this incedent....not to mention Russian air force  themselves dropping a bomb on the hospital a few hours later and Assad claiming that the "victims" were not really hurt..and also Assad claiming the victims were all acting for the cameras...yea no real issues at all

Like  we people in the west suppose to believe  Russia's word for it?  The part  this topic leaves out is the fact Russia Veto the UN  because they say they will blame Assad . So Russia dont want the UN too investigate ether ..  Why should we take a country who supports  Assad  word for it? will it just be a cover up job just too sweep it under the Rug.?

 

Russia Vetoes United Nations Probe of the Syria Gas Attack
 

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-12/russia-vetoes-united-nations-investigation-of-syria-gas-attack

 

[dufus]

1 hour ago, dufus said:

try this

Wesley Kanne Clark, Sr. (born December 23, 1944) is a retired General of the United States Army. He graduated as valedictorian of the class of 1966 at West Point and was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship to the University of Oxford, where he obtained a degree in Philosophy, Politics and Economics. He later graduated from the Command and General Staff College with a master's degree in military science. He spent 34 years in the U.S. Army, receiving many military decorations, several honorary knighthoods, and the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

 

He no russian you not believe american general

[WALLONN7]

I must confess I was wrong...

 

[dufus]

1 minute ago, WALLONN7 said:

must confess I was wrong...

no you not trying to stop swerve from topic if you had not noticed

[steven36]

11 minutes ago, dufus said:

 

He no russian you not believe american general

Lol not really Obama's general  was a lair  that Obama patron  before he left office . I dont trust no one in the Militarily who blabs there mouth , I hate a snitch 

 

Obama pardons James Cartwright in leak case

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/314674-obama-pardons-james-cartwright-in-leak-case

 

[dufus]

10 minutes ago, dufus said:

no you not trying to stop swerve from topic if you had not noticed

told you

Gabbard's Stop Arming Terrorists Act Introduced in Senate

Washington, DC—Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s Stop Arming Terrorists Act has been introduced in the U.S. Senate by Senator Rand Paul. The bipartisan legislation (H.R.608 and S.532) would prohibit any Federal agency from using taxpayer dollars to provide weapons, cash, intelligence, or any support to al-Qaeda, ISIS and other terrorist groups, and it will prohibit the government from funneling money and weapons through other countries who are directly or indirectly supporting terrorists.

The legislation is currently cosponsored by Reps. John Conyers (D-MI), Scott Perry (R-PA), Peter Welch (D-VT), Tom Garrett (R-VA), Thomas Massie (R-KY), Barbara Lee (D-CA), Walter Jones (R-NC), Ted Yoho (R-FL), and Paul Gosar (R-AZ), and endorsed by Progressive Democrats of America (PDA), Veterans for Peace, and the U.S. Peace Council. 

“For years, the U.S. government has been supporting armed militant groups working directly with and often under the command of terrorist groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda in their fight to overthrow the Syrian government. Rather than spending trillions of dollars on regime change wars in the Middle East, we should be focused on defeating terrorist groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda, and using our resources to invest in rebuilding our communities here at home,” said Rep. Tulsi Gabbard. “The fact that American taxpayer dollars are being used to strengthen the very terrorist groups we should be focused on defeating should alarm every Member of Congress and every American.  We call on our colleagues and the Administration to join us in passing this legislation.”

“One of the unintended consequences of nation-building and open-ended intervention is American funds and weapons benefiting those who hate us,” said Dr. Rand Paul. “This legislation will strengthen our foreign policy, enhance our national security, and safeguard our resources.”

Background: The Stop Arming Terrorists Act prohibits U.S. government funds from being used to support al-Qaeda, ISIS or other terrorist groups. In the same way that Congress passed the Boland Amendment to prohibit the funding and support to CIA backed-Nicaraguan Contras during the 1980’s, this bill would stop CIA or other Federal government activities in places like Syria by ensuring U.S. funds are not used to support al-Qaeda, Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, ISIS, or other terrorist groups working with them. It would also prohibit the Federal government from funding assistance to countries that are directly or indirectly supporting those terrorist groups. The bill achieves this by:

• Making it illegal for any U.S. Federal government funds to be used to provide assistance covered in this bill to terrorists. The assistance covered includes weapons, munitions, weapons platforms, intelligence, logistics, training, and cash.
• Making it illegal for the U.S. government to provide assistance covered in the bill to any nation that has given or continues to give such assistance to terrorists.
• Requiring the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) to determine the individual and groups that should be considered terrorists, for the purposes of this bill, by determining: (a) the individuals and groups that are associated with, affiliated with, adherents to or cooperating with al-Qaeda, Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, or ISIS; (b) the countries that are providing assistance covered in this bill to those individuals or groups.
• Requiring the DNI to review and update the list of countries and groups to which assistance is prohibited every six months, in consultation with the House Foreign Affairs and Armed Services Committees, as well as the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
• Requiring the DNI to brief Congress on the determinations.
• https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-releases/gabbards-stop-arming-terrorists-act-introduced-senate

[steven36]

18 minutes ago, dufus said:

told you

LOL  both sides of the story should be told  problem is you trying to post hate messages about my country and pass it off as news it was bad enough when we had another member who use too post them in the chat bar but you try pass it off as news. you spread a one sided message  , this is the internet  were people can look up some news  to fit there own agenda  be it politics , software  ,tech or whatever . It's  like YouTube  you can even go  and  hear what the KKK  has too say and people who say Hitler  is great  .You should not  believe everything you read on the internet and take it for face value just because its posted.

[dufus]

11 minutes ago, steven36 said:

LOL  both sides of the story should be told  problem is you trying post hate messages about my country you spread a one sided message  , this is the internet  were people can look up some news  to fit there agenda  be it politics , software  ,tech or whatever . It's  like YouTube  you can even go  and  hear what the KKK  has too say and people who say Hitler  is great  .You should not  believe everything you read on the internet and take it for face value just because its posted.

first amendment belongs you then up to individual to critical asses information without being verbal bullied remember forum rules

[steven36]

6 minutes ago, dufus said:

first amendment belongs you then up to individual to critical asses information without being verbal bullied remember forum rules

. I dont even believe much of my own countries news ether   because there bad about posting  stuff on a 100 sites without even checking the facts because we have freedom of the press so it;s nothing personal  I  like people from all countries . But posting news from sources that are known  too never check facts is senseless regardless of were it .is from