rasbridge Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 2/24/2017 Climate Change: We're often told by advocates of climate change that the "science is settled." But in fact, "science" itself is in a deep crisis over making claims it can't back up, especially about climate. As BBC News Science Correspondent Tom Feilden noted last week, "Science is facing a 'reproducibility crisis' where more than two-thirds of researchers have tried and failed to reproduce another scientist's experiments, research suggests." This isn't just his journalistic opinion, but the conclusion of the University of Virginia's Center for Open Science, which estimates that roughly 70% of all studies can't be reproduced. And this includes the field of climate change, by the way. It's a disaster. Being able to reproduce others' experiments or findings from models is at the very heart of science. Yet, radical climate change advocates would have us spend 2% of global GDP, or roughly $1.5 trillion a year, to forestall a minuscule amount of anticipated warming based on dubious modeling and experiments. Meanwhile, the federal government spends literally billions of dollars a year on climate change, with virtually none of the money funding scientists who doubt the climate change threat. There is no serious debate. This is a problem for all of science. Worse, our government's own science fraud is a big problem. Dr. John Bates, a former top scientist at National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, recently detailed how a government paper that called into question the 18-year "pause" in global warming was based on "experimental" data and politicized. That "paper" was used to justify President Obama's signing of the Paris climate agreement. Meanwhile, Georgia Institute of Technology climatologist Judith Curry recently retired, blaming the "CRAZINESS (her emphasis) in the field of climate science." Even so, mythical claims of a "consensus" among scientists about climate change continue in an effort to shut up critics. Those who dissent, and literally thousands of scientists and engineers do, are shouted down and harassed. As Princeton University physicist Will Happer told the left-wing British newspaper the Guardian earlier this week: "There's a whole area of climate so-called science that is really more like a cult. ... It will potentially harm the image of all science." It's time for some science Glasnost. New EPA Director Scott Pruitt has called for an open debate on climate science, rather than the name-calling and outright dishonesty of the past. Real science has nothing to fear from more openness and discussion, but everything to fear from more politicized dishonesty. Source: http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/is-global-warming-science-just-a-fraud/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Quote Is Global Warming Science Just A Fraud? A fraud because 'Climate Change' is something totally different - the climate has been changing for millions of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tao Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 It is an unsettled subject, which makes not a fraud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dMog Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 33 minutes ago, J.D said: A fraud because 'Climate Change' is something totally different - the climate has been changing for millions of years i can see this post is going to get ugly fast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB7 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Right ... the effect that humans have had... producing rapid climate change is all just fake news ?? I doubt that any information posted will change anyone's mind and yes... the views are completely polarized.. alt-right have successfully convinced .a large part of the population that any info from the gov .. or mainstream news orgs, that it must be false as it comes from the "those" sources.. gone are the days when people actually spent anytime just thinking about what they are presented with. If it doesn't fit with what they currently believe, then it must be fake. Hey , how about all of these folks who seem to agree that , maybe ,just maybe we are actually having a significant and negative affect on the planet and maybe we do sometime about it instead of burying out heads in the dry , hot sand. https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/ Oh that's right , they must all be liars because they are educated ... and we all know that educated people just can't be trusted. Truth = lies , black = white, freedom is slavery, ignorance equals strength ... at this rate , we'll have the strongest population in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tao Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 12 hours ago, SB7 said: ... Oh that's right , they must all be liars because they are educated ... and we all know that educated people just can't be trusted. Truth = lies , black = white, freedom is slavery, ignorance equals strength ... at this rate , we'll have the strongest population in no time. Well all problems are solved, really. How?: warming = cooling. [So, global warming = local cooling and local warming = global cooling.] All is cool when discussing with a warm, friendly feeling. ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ryrynz Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 " I was wondering if you would know what the mechanisms are that cause carbon dioxide to trap heat inside the atmosphere? Submitted by: Colleen Answer: The mechanism by which carbon dioxide traps heat in the atmosphere is commonly referred to as the "greenhouse effect." Stated very simply, carbon dioxide, or CO2, is nearly transparent to the solar radiation emitted from the sun, but partially opaque to the thermal radiation emitted by the earth. As such, it allows incoming solar radiation from the sun to pass through it and warm the earth's surface. The earth's surface, in turn, emitts a portion of this energy upwards toward space as longer wavelength or thermal radiation. Some of this thermal radiation is absorbed and re-radiated by the atmosphere's CO2 molecules back toward earth's surface, providing an additional source of heat energy. Without water vapor, CO2, and other radiatively-active trace gases in the air, the planet's average temperature would be about 34°C cooler than it is at present. " Wanna hazard a guess at how much carbon we've helped emit over the last hundred years and how much foilage has been removed during the expansion of the human plague? Let me simply answer that for you.. A fucking shit ton. Do the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtmulc Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Again, Even if, hypothetically, all the climate scientists are wrong, how is creating a less polluting world a Bad Thing? I live in a town once referred to as "The Smokey City". In 1868, Boston writer James Parton described it as "hell with the lid off". By 3pm it was as black as night. If you left the house in the morning wearing a white shirt, it would be gray by the time you came home. Asked on how to improve it, Frank Lloyd Wright famously quipped, "Abandon it". Instead, we took measures to curb pollution, clear our skies, clean up our rivers, and we are much better for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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