karachidude Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 3 hours ago, dezsez said: One of the worst things to damage a Hard Drive is for it to be shut down suddenly and if you have had a lot of Power Outages it may have damaged Sectors on the Hard drive. A Laptop as got a battery and you would have to shut it down. Install a Hard drive test program and check Read/Write and Spin Up Speed Unfortunately i think the Hard drive test failed i think i am appending the status it shows, i think it has bad sectors and will run the SeaTools for DOS to try to repair, will have to burn the .ISO on a CD to run it and see if can repair the bad sectors. Could this be the reason why Windows doesn't boot after power outages? and this boot thing has been going on for a year? pic upload Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atasas Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 (late), but even errors can be avoided by having particular part excluded from operational part of HDD. Firsts-first, run Yamicsof Manager to check repair options and extract FULL windows credentials. You need to establish where corrupted section is first, for that purpose you need to format disk in to several partitions (my weapon of choice would be gParted partition manager, either CD or USB(bit more complicated) http://gparted.org ) then run the tests, which partition to delete using any basic partition testing software Then you'd install OS on one part (40gb+) and make other part active for the files, never activating failed part of HDD, where to you cut-paste your Documents Pictures Music and Videos (maybe even Download path and files) Result?-! and in case next time failure, your files will remain safe, for the next OS install-reboot.... and make those boots several, with one of them Win7, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airstream_Bill Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 7 hours ago, dezsez said: Uncheck Fast Boot Up in power options and see if that cures it. Uncheck that stupid feature even if you are not having any problems. Good advice dezsez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tao Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 No. Shit is shit. And Windows 10 is windows 10; no shit. Millions use it productively. Hope you solve your problem soon and satisfactorily.Thanks and Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debebee Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Your frequent power outages is taking a toll on your hard disk..... And could be the reason for your bad sectors First Consider a UPS if you value your Hardware's health.. Second. Try an app like HDD regenerator that can revive bad sectors may be caused by weak magnetism (a consequence of basly shutdown OSes).. Bad sectors cause by physical errors are not fixed by this software.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straycat19 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 16 hours ago, 46&2 said: If I was in your situation I would buy a UPS (Uninterruptible power supply). Since power outage is the real problem for you I would concentrate on fixing it instead of fixing Windows. Good luck! This is the only sure method of maintaining a system during a power outage. I have a UPS on every desktop and NAS system in my home. I use APC 1300 and 1500 systems and have them attached to the computer with the included cables so if the power goes out the computers will shut down automatically. The NAS units when not active draw very little power and will run for several hours, during which I can shut them down if the power is still off. My modem and routers are also connected to UPS units and will run for over 8 hours with no power. If you have a single PC then one of these UPS units mentioned above will power your monitor, PC, modem and router for an hour or so (possibly longer depending on your system) and allow you to shut them down normally if the power doesn't come back on. Their is a caveat though to using UPS systems, the batteries have to be changed periodically and they cost about half as much as the UPS. I have tried using non-APC batteries in them but have had to replace them much more often than the actual APC brand, so it doesn't save any money, may actually cost more over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 i 14 hours ago, Atasas said: (late), but even errors can be avoided by having particular part excluded from operational part of HDD. Firsts-first, run Yamicsof Manager to check repair options and extract FULL windows credentials. You need to establish where corrupted section is first, for that purpose you need to format disk in to several partitions (my weapon of choice would be gParted partition manager, either CD or USB(bit more complicated) http://gparted.org ) then run the tests, which partition to delete using any basic partition testing software Then you'd install OS on one part (40gb+) and make other part active for the files, never activating failed part of HDD, where to you cut-paste your Documents Pictures Music and Videos (maybe even Download path and files) Result?-! and in case next time failure, your files will remain safe, for the next OS install-reboot.... and make those boots several, with one of them Win7, 11 hours ago, Airstream_Bill said: Uncheck that stupid feature even if you are not having any problems. Good advice dezsez. 10 hours ago, adi said: No. Shit is shit. And Windows 10 is windows 10; no shit. Millions use it productively. Hope you solve your problem soon and satisfactorily.Thanks and Regards. 9 hours ago, teodz1984 said: Your frequent power outages is taking a toll on your hard disk..... And could be the reason for your bad sectors First Consider a UPS if you value your Hardware's health.. Second. Try an app like HDD regenerator that can revive bad sectors may be caused by weak magnetism (a consequence of basly shutdown OSes).. Bad sectors cause by physical errors are not fixed by this software.. 1 hour ago, straycat19 said: This is the only sure method of maintaining a system during a power outage. I have a UPS on every desktop and NAS system in my home. I use APC 1300 and 1500 systems and have them attached to the computer with the included cables so if the power goes out the computers will shut down automatically. The NAS units when not active draw very little power and will run for several hours, during which I can shut them down if the power is still off. My modem and routers are also connected to UPS units and will run for over 8 hours with no power. If you have a single PC then one of these UPS units mentioned above will power your monitor, PC, modem and router for an hour or so (possibly longer depending on your system) and allow you to shut them down normally if the power doesn't come back on. Their is a caveat though to using UPS systems, the batteries have to be changed periodically and they cost about half as much as the UPS. I have tried using non-APC batteries in them but have had to replace them much more often than the actual APC brand, so it doesn't save any money, may actually cost more over time. thanks mates, i have decided to buy a new Hard Drive, i have started transferring the Data to the external drive, i have not gone on to repair and isolating the bad parts of the HDD yet, i want to get Data transfer done first so that it doesn't die on me first, i will put in a new hard drive as the main OS and then put the current one as the secondary and then try to repair the damage/bad sectors! I don't have the budget to buy a UPS right now but will do it soon. But still this never used to happen before, windows not booting up stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atasas Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 how about USB xp just to boot up and access the system etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Just now, Atasas said: how about USB xp just to boot up and access the system etc? yes mate will do it i think as a precaution and keep it handy until i get the UPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 19 hours ago, knowledge said: sometime if windows is updateing and power cut it can make problems this have happen to me 3 times on windows 10 or use program like Shadow Defender so if have problems it cant break things Now i understand what your saying but will it help while the OS is updating(the hard drive is writing stuff down) and the power suddenly goes out, how do i set it like that? Because the damage on the Hard Drive is not physical when power goes out mostly, only the system files get corrupted right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 17 hours ago, jbleck said: https://www.cnet.com/news/9-things-you-should-know-about-surge-protectors/ get one of these if u don't have it yet i read some where that power outages don't cause any physical damage to the hard drive only power surges do, so if there are bad sectors on my hard drive as the Sea Tool result indicates i have a problem of power surges too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atasas Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, karachidude said: Now i understand what your saying but will it help while the OS is updating(the hard drive is writing stuff down) and the power suddenly goes out, how do i set it like that? Because the damage on the Hard Drive is not physical when power goes out mostly, only the system files get corrupted right? Wrong! Power cuts physically fry up everything and anything from cheapest HDD to CPU's and MOBO's capacitors etc and it is one of those really hard to pin point exactly what's broken down, if it "starts to work" intermittently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Atasas said: Wrong! Power cuts physically fry up everything and anything from cheapest HDD to CPU's and MOBO's capacitors etc and it is one of those really hard to pin point exactly what's broken down, if it start to work intermittently. yes mate but in this case the system is working fine after every fresh install that's why i am asking that somehow only the system files are getting corrupted after each outage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atasas Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, karachidude said: yes mate but in this case the systems is working fine after every fresh install that's why i am asking that somehow only the system files are getting corrupted after each outage! Could be mobo, could be RAM... could be HDD as system, before fully set up warmed up and loaded suddenly BSOD's etc, nasty stuff to make good Initial install might mean nothing or even mean graphics card... Tough one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Atasas said: Could be mobo, could be RAM... could be HDD as system, before fully set up warmed up and loaded suddenly BSOD's etc, nasty stuff to make good Initial install might mean nothing or even mean graphics card... Tough one yes mate true, the 4GB RAM seems to be working fine and the Motherboard is still under warranty and newish (though old tech) and i have the AMD Radeon 7770 on which is also newish, don't understand what the frick is happening, and this only started since i have started using Win 10! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atasas Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Idealy need to run process of elimination one by one removed components... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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