karachidude Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 hey peeps, Now let me tell this never use to happen before, i have been using PCs since Win 98, am lazy, forgetful and not a pro, but not a novice either. Since i have upgraded and its been a while, to Windows 10 a problem persists, mostly 8 out of 10 times, when ever there's a power outage (it happens here often) the Windows wont boot again, something i guess gets corrupted each time and i have to install a fresh copy of Win 10, i have probably installed Win 10 like 50 times, once twice in one day..lol..the fancy recovery, repair and reset features don't work and no my CMOS is not bad i think, i bought a new Motherboard less then a year ago. whats up with that? i remember the old XP times, it used to boot back up and start auto without a problem ever automatically ready to use..haha anyone suggestions or solutions besides the one telling me to go back to 7 or 8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezsez Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Uncheck Fast Boot Up in power options and see if that cures it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 If your talking about the Self Back On option its already Off, i manually start the computer when ever there's power outage! Is Fast Boot Up another thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezsez Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Go to power options and the click click on Choose What the Power Button Does,, Then click on Change Settings that are Currently Available.. Then you will see that Fast Start up is Ticked, Un tick it and Save Changes. Your PC won't start up as fast but may cure your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 oh thanks just unticked it lets see what happens the next time power goes out and if it makes a difference! any other suggestions mates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 sometime if windows is updateing and power cut it can make problems this have happen to me 3 times on windows 10 or use program like Shadow Defender so if have problems it cant break things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezsez Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 It could also be the Hard Drive loosing its Integrity if its Quite old which prevents it booting up. One of the worst things to damage a Hard Drive is for it to be shut down suddenly and if you have had a lot of Power Outages it may have damaged Sectors on the Hard drive. A Laptop as got a battery and you would have to shut it down. Install a Hard drive test program and check Read/Write and Spin Up Speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, knowledge said: sometime if windows is updateing and power cut it can make problems this have happen to me 3 times on windows 10 or use program like Shadow Defender so if have problems it cant break things hey mate, isnt shadow defender a security program, how would it help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Just now, karachidude said: hey mate, isnt shadow defender a security program, how would it help. it can stop things from been changed when u not want things to change without your knowledge or ok i use to stop much things from happen to pc its save me lots of times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, dezsez said: It could also be the Hard Drive loosing its Integrity if its Quite old which prevents it booting up. My HDD cant be more then 2 years old i think, is that old ? and also the computer works fine once i do a fresh install no BSOD or anything. 1 minute ago, knowledge said: it can stop things from been changed when u not want things to change without your knowledge or ok i use to stop much things from happen to pc its save me lots of times ok mate i will install it and check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 11 minutes ago, dezsez said: It could also be the Hard Drive loosing its Integrity if its Quite old which prevents it booting up. And also the HDD is not making that weird constant sound it usually makes when its close to dying, its silent i can only hear the CPU fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezsez Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 One of the worst things to damage a Hard Drive is for it to be shut down suddenly and if you have had a lot of Power Outages it may have damaged Sectors on the Hard drive. A Laptop as got a battery and you would have to shut it down. Install a Hard drive test program and check Read/Write and Spin Up Speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 15 minutes ago, dezsez said: One of the worst things to damage a Hard Drive is for it to be shut down suddenly and if you have had a lot of Power Outages it may have damaged Sectors on the Hard drive. A Laptop as got a battery and you would have to shut it down. Install a Hard drive test program and check Read/Write and Spin Up Speed ok mate doing that now, will post the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nastrahl Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Windows 10 isn't a piece of shit ; a computer isn't suitable for unstable electrical environment. You need a backup power protection solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Nastrahl said: Windows 10 isn't a piece of shit ; a computer isn't suitable for unstable electrical environment. You need a backup power protection solution. well win 7 and 8 worked fine under such circumstances, so yes win 10 is a piece crap in that way 8 minutes ago, Nastrahl said: You need a backup power protection solution. There has to be another way, cause the hardware is not failing only windows is! The system is good as new after fresh install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 29 minutes ago, dezsez said: One of the worst things to damage a Hard Drive is for it to be shut down suddenly and if you have had a lot of Power Outages it may have damaged Sectors on the Hard drive. A Laptop as got a battery and you would have to shut it down. Install a Hard drive test program and check Read/Write and Spin Up Speed i have put the hard drive on the Seagate Seatool long generic test, i will let know what it says! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobrPatty Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Run Server 2016 much faster and more stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbleck Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 https://www.cnet.com/news/9-things-you-should-know-about-surge-protectors/ get one of these if u don't have it yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSlayer Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 How are your power options configurated? It seems that your PC is "sleeping" and turning your HDDs of after some idle time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46&2 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 If I was in your situation I would buy a UPS (Uninterruptible power supply). Since power outage is the real problem for you I would concentrate on fixing it instead of fixing Windows. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 59 minutes ago, RobrPatty said: Run Server 2016 much faster and more stable. Hey mate, my processor is 8 years old e5400 dual core with 4gb ddr2, if it can run on the rig it in your opinioni will give it a try. 49 minutes ago, jbleck said: https://www.cnet.com/news/9-things-you-should-know-about-surge-protectors/ get one of these if u don't have it yet thanks mate, i will buy one of these to be safe and thanks for pointing out but power surge is not a problem here normally only outages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 36 minutes ago, DarkSlayer said: How are your power options configurated? It seems that your PC is "sleeping" and turning your HDDs of after some idle time... mate i am not sure let me append a photo or two of the power settings. windows 7 print screen img hosting screen shot windows 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 52 minutes ago, 46&2 said: If I was in your situation I would buy a UPS (Uninterruptible power supply). Since power outage is the real problem for you I would concentrate on fixing it instead of fixing Windows. Good luck! mate i have never used a UPS for the past 18 years i have spent on my computer, and there has never been a problem like this, its ridiculous whats happening with Windows 10 and only Windows 10 to me, and also the outages are much fewer and far between now then they were before when i was a kid! 55 minutes ago, DarkSlayer said: How are your power options configurated? It seems that your PC is "sleeping" and turning your HDDs of after some idle time... i hope you can help me with the screen shots i posted of the current settings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8commodore Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Shut Down in Windows 10 is not shutdown as in previous versions of windows, Win 10 actually hibernates when when you click shut down ( part of fastboot ) so disableing fastboot will auctaully shutdown your computer. Your harddrive is still being powered when you shutdown in windows 10. You can see for yourself by turning off the power switch at the wall and you will hear thhe computer shut off like when you do a hard shutdown by holding ing the power switch on your computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karachidude Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 27 minutes ago, v8commodore said: Shut Down in Windows 10 is not shutdown as in previous versions of windows, Win 10 actually hibernates when when you click shut down ( part of fastboot ) so disableing fastboot will auctaully shutdown your computer. Your harddrive is still being powered when you shutdown in windows 10. You can see for yourself by turning off the power switch at the wall and you will hear thhe computer shut off like when you do a hard shutdown by holding ing the power switch on your computer. thanks, so what should i do with the settings as posted in the screen shots do i change any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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