Administrator DKT27 Posted July 27, 2009 Administrator Share Posted July 27, 2009 Windows 7 will be more than just a better interface. Under-the-hood changes will allow chips from Intel, Nvidia, and Advanced Micro Devices to ratchet up Windows 7 performance above previous Microsoft operating systems. Microsoft on Wednesday said it has finalized the code for Windows 7, set to ship with new PCs starting October 22. Improvements will include how Windows handles multitasking, graphics acceleration, and solid-state drives. Original Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S!X Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Microsoft on Wednesday said it has finalized the code for Windows 7, set to ship with new PCs starting October 22. Improvements will include how Windows handles multitasking, graphics acceleration, and solid-state drives.With that said, is it even worth downloading the current releases or should I just wait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted July 27, 2009 Author Administrator Share Posted July 27, 2009 Ask experts about it. For my opinion wait for a proper fix and reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shought Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 The 22nd October version will most likely be very similar to the version that's out now(RTM), I installed it today and I'm already thinking about using it as my main system, it's really great.I don't 'really' like the looks of it though, but I guess I'll have to live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted July 27, 2009 Author Administrator Share Posted July 27, 2009 Actully the main point of this thread is hyperthreading. I causes problems in some old graphics related programs but in real it is very good. It seems to me there will be an improvement in the hyperthreading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshiro Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I got a BSOD when I was photoshopping.. Think photoshop isn't 100% capable with W7.And you can wait for a good Fix by using this GL & HF ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted July 27, 2009 Author Administrator Share Posted July 27, 2009 That is why they have RTM it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpua Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 It's been RTM'd. The code is set and it's not going to change. By the time it's released to the general public on 10/22 there will be a slew of updates, but they'll all have to come through windows update. The code has been released to manufacturing (RTM). The Ultimate version you can download now, if you find the right one that matches the hashes released by MS, is the same as will be in the box (of the Ultimate version) that you will be able to buy on 10/22.I've been using various builds as my main OS for months now. Upgraded to the RTM build as soon as it was leaked. Lovin' it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S!X Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 It's been RTM'd. The code is set and it's not going to change. By the time it's released to the general public on 10/22 there will be a slew of updates, but they'll all have to come through windows update. The code has been released to manufacturing (RTM). The Ultimate version you can download now, if you find the right one that matches the hashes released by MS, is the same as will be in the box (of the Ultimate version) that you will be able to buy on 10/22.I've been using various builds as my main OS for months now. Upgraded to the RTM build as soon as it was leaked. Lovin' it.I'm gonna bite the bullet and do an upgrade from vista ultimate (cause I don't feel like making a partition to backup all my files for a clean install) and see how it is :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelrhino Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 The way I understand it is:1. Microsoft finishes the system and calls it RTM (Release To Manufacturer). This is already complete & available if you know where to look.2. The manufacturer gets the RTM. They code their products either past, present or future ie. being games apps etc so they are compatible. 3. Eventually, when Microsoft decides everyone is onboard then they release the System to consumers.4. The public updates their system with windows 7.5. The various developers who have been preparing for the consumer onslaught of demand for new games, apps etc for the new system are then prepared and simply hand over their products for profit.Usually, if you have the RTM version then you have no worries. Your working with the final product but because you in effect have a system that isn't even supposed to be on the market yet then you will have to wait for the occasional driver or support from a software company.I hope this an OK explanation. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpua Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 No, you are pretty much correct. As you said, the main problem at the moment is that most manufacturer's haven't yet released W7 specific drivers and versions of their apps designed for 7. But . . , almost everything that runs OK on Vista already runs well on 7 (some drivers and Tweak programs such as most registry cleaners, excepted) plus 7 has very good compatibility modes. And already 7 comes loaded with many 1000's of drivers that work well with it. So it really isn't much of a problem for 99% of people at this point. MS really learned some lessons from what happened with Vista and they made sure not to make those same mistakes again. So W7 is extremely refined, stable and compatible, already.When I first installed it on my Lenovo T61p laptop, there were zero yellow exclamation points in device manager, and everything just worked right after the install, (except for a few Lenovo specific keyboard shortcuts that required a special 7 version of a Lenovo driver (now Lenovo has made 7 versions of those drivers, although they were beta versions last time I checked.)Although the new UI is nice (at least I think so), the main advances really are "under the hood" so to speak and to get an idea of what they are, one can check out the W7 Engineering Blog which is a pretty interesting read, imo.I've heard that most games already run better on 7 than they do on Vista. The only game I'm running, COD4, runs really well on 7.I couldn't imagine going back to Vista or XP at this point.If you install the RTM, you get a 30 day trial period that can be "rearmed" 3 times for a total of 120 days, which should get you to the time when you can buy a legal key for it. If you use the activator that is currently going around, that will convert your RTM into an evaluation version that expires in March 2010. Better to rearm and eventually get a legal key, or wait for a better crack, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted July 28, 2009 Author Administrator Share Posted July 28, 2009 Actually after reading it again I really think the above thing is already done. It wont change. All the things mentioned in the article is already done and have released RTM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpua Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I got a BSOD when I was photoshopping.. Think photoshop isn't 100% capable with W7.And you can wait for a good Fix by using this GL & HF :PI'm using the latest version of photoshop with no problems. I hear 7 doesn't work well with the 64 bit version of photoshop, however. The 32 bit version of Photoshop CS4 runs fine on my x64 W7 RTM system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshiro Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I got a BSOD when I was photoshopping.. Think photoshop isn't 100% capable with W7.And you can wait for a good Fix by using this GL & HF :PI'm using the latest version of photoshop with no problems. I hear 7 doesn't work well with the 64 bit version of photoshop, however. The 32 bit version of Photoshop CS4 runs fine on my x64 W7 RTM system.Yea runs great here to, only that time I got a BSOD :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted July 28, 2009 Author Administrator Share Posted July 28, 2009 It is good that it is gone(BSOD ). Otherwise BSOD is not a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S!X Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 So I went ahead and installed it this morning (used upgrade feature, from vista ultimate) had audio for about an hour or two till I rebooted. Now I've spent about 3 hours searching google for a fix and tried everything people have suggested but no luck. Reinstalled my audio drivers ( Realtek AC 97), tried newer drivers, installing with vista compatibility mode etc. Looks Like I'll have to revert to vista... :frusty: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshiro Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 So I went ahead and installed it this morning (used upgrade feature, from vista ultimate) had audio for about an hour or two till I rebooted. Now I've spent about 3 hours searching google for a fix and tried everything people have suggested but no luck. Reinstalled my audio drivers ( Realtek AC 97), tried newer drivers, installing with vista compatibility mode etc. Looks Like I'll have to revert to vista... :frusty:It's recommended to do a Clean install for Windows 7. So try that.. it'll be worth it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S!X Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 So I went ahead and installed it this morning (used upgrade feature, from vista ultimate) had audio for about an hour or two till I rebooted. Now I've spent about 3 hours searching google for a fix and tried everything people have suggested but no luck. Reinstalled my audio drivers ( Realtek AC 97), tried newer drivers, installing with vista compatibility mode etc. Looks Like I'll have to revert to vista... :frusty:It's recommended to do a Clean install for Windows 7. So try that.. it'll be worth it :)I finally found the problem, it was due to a service I disabled but wasn't listed as a dependency for the windows audio/endpoint builder services.Open up services.msc from the run command.Look for a service called ‘Power’ have it set to automatic and fire it up if it is not running.Then start Windows Audio Endpoint Builder ServiceThen start Windows Audio ServiceYet more hidden service dependencies we really should no about but were not told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted July 29, 2009 Author Administrator Share Posted July 29, 2009 Never disable services that you are unsure about from services.msc. I had faced that problem for some time. I would rec. never touch services.msc until really need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpua Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Although the upgrade process works better in 7 than it ever has in previous versions, I would still recommend doing a clean install, at least if you are upgrading from Vista. If going from an RC version of 7 to the RTM, then I think an upgrade install is likely to work very well. But it's worth trying (assuming you have a good backup of your Vista installation) to do an upgrade install and see how it works. If a clean install had been done, the user would not have experienced that audio issue referred to above. But good that the problem was figured out and fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted July 29, 2009 Author Administrator Share Posted July 29, 2009 I have a question for experts here. I have XP Pro. 1) If I want to install 7 as an additional OS to my current XP. Will I be able to do it?2) Will older files and folders on the other drives able to access in 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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