humble3d Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem Earlier this year Microsoft warned users that Windows 7 has serious problems. In short: Microsoft has made a seemingly small yet completely bizarre tweak to Windows Update on Windows 7 and confirmed it is crippling many users’ PCs. It switched the status of Windows 7 update KB3133977 from ‘Optional’ to ‘Recommended’. . . Earlier this year Microsoft MSFT +0.22% warned users that Windows 7 has serious problems. I dismissed its claims as a desperate attempt to shift copies of Windows 10 (and I still do), but now Microsoft has warned of a new serious Windows 7 problem that is very real – even though it makes no sense whatsoever… In short: Microsoft has made a seemingly small yet completely bizarre tweak to Windows Update on Windows 7 and confirmed it is crippling many users’ PCs. The tweak? It switched the status of Windows 7 update KB3133977 from ‘Optional’ to ‘Recommended’. The bizarre part? Despite acknowledging the problems, Microsoft knew they would occur in advance and it has no plans to do anything about it. Windows 7 users are being pushed to upgrade to Windows 10. Windows 7 users are being pushed to upgrade to Windows 10. Ok, let’s put some meat on these bones. PCs That Suddenly Won’t Start It all centres around Asus motherboards. Now 27 years old, Asus is one of the largest PC component makers and supplies motherboards to many of the world’s biggest PC makers. Recently it enabled Secure Boot in UEFI on all its motherboards. This wasn’t a problem for older PCs because Windows 7 didn’t support Secure Boot, that is until KB3133977 came along in March and enabled it. Recommended by Forbes Initially the fallout was small. Asus confirmed the problem, Microsoft confirmed the problem. But the best news was KB3133977 was an optional Windows 7 update so it had to be manually installed to take effect. The solution was simple: just steer clear of KB3133977 (aka do nothing) and you’d be fine. Then last month – for some bizarre reason – Microsoft made KB3133977 a ‘Recommended’ update. The result was every user running Windows 7 and default Windows Update settings (the vast majority) would find the update now installed automatically. And then everyone with an Asus motherboard was hit. A Global Problem As InfoWorld’s Windows expert Woody Leonhard notes “I’m now seeing problems reported from all over the globe about Windows 7 machines that suddenly won’t boot”. Affected machines simply show a red box which says: The Windows 7 warning screen hitting PC owners with Asus motherboards who install update KB3133977. Image credit: Asus All of which does nothing to pinpoint the problem or solve it for those without a second secured boot device. In short: you’d be screwed. The Good News And Staying Safe The good news is Asus has now issued a workaround to get PCs booting up again. Furthermore Asus must take some of the blame for not reacting faster when KB3133977 presented a potential landmine and issuing new updates to its motherboards. How do you know if you have an Asus motherboard in your Windows 7 PC? Go to: All Programs > Accessories > System Tools and select System Information. This will list your PC’s components, including the motherboard. One downside: some major PC makers like Dell and HP rebrand the motherboard as the computer’s model number. In which case you should do a web search on your model or call the manufacturer directly. The Bad News And What Comes Next As for the bad news? It’s Microsoft’s reaction. On the plus side, Microsoft did update the support document for KB3133977 with a warning which states: “After you install update 3133977 on a Windows 7 x64-based system that includes an Asus-based main board, the system does not start”. But Microsoft also uses the document an opportunity to promote upgrades to Windows 10: Microsoft's KB3133977 support page now advises users to install Windows 10 to fix their problems. Microsoft’s KB3133977 support page now advises users to install Windows 10 to fix their problems. Microsoft has also done nothing to modify KB3133977 or release a new patch so users with Asus motherboards don’t run into this problem in the first place. Furthermore, at the time of publishing, KB3133977 remains a ‘Recommended’ in Windows Update for Windows 7. Needless to say, conspiracy theorists will have a ball seeing it as yet another new way Microsoft can push users to Windows 10. Especially with upgrade rates slowing in April. This in itself is remarkable given the increasing number of heavy handed and devious ways Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 onto Windows 7 and Windows 8 users. Regardless, the message is clear: life is going to become increasingly uncomfortable for Windows 7 users from now on. Whether they like it or not… http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/05/04/microsoft-warns-windows-7-boot-up-problem/?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=partner&utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix#58776a66395e --MORE-- REFUSE TO LET MSFT OWN YOU... READ ON... https://www.grc.com/never10.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gipsy Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, humble3d said: Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem oh boy! tomorrow right now startin' update my old windows to 10th.... f*ck i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straycat19 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 On 5/13/2016 at 6:13 PM, humble3d said: Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem Yes, it works and for that reason people are not upgrading to Windows 10. Microsoft has a serious problem if they cannot secure an OS after trying to do so with a thousand updates over 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jango Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 my mobo desktop is not ready for Windows 10 so i need to stick Windows 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Any problems like these on any version of windows is caused by Microsoft themselves take xp for example Microsoft drooping support for updates is catching up with it most modern browser run like crap in it now or dont support it at all . Now Microsoft refuses to fix anything in windows 7 because full support ran out long ago even if there update causes it but any updates in Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 can be removed and hidden if it causes problems . But in 4 years from now people on Windows 10 can look forward to the same thing Microsoft has never gave full support for no more than 5 years and if you remove update it just installs back, even if they was to make windows 10 as a service you would need too buy it again to keep getting support and upgrades . If its true there's not going to be a Windows 11 they must have some kind of kill switch on updates for windows 10 they not revealed because they been having a fit about people using windows 7 every since 5 years of its 10 years promised update cycle, no way in hell will Microsoft give Windows 10 support very long without having to buy it or ether they will make windows 11 or what ever they will call it. If my pc stops running because of a update its time to leave windows and use something else and people on windows 10 have no way of not taking updates i see the big picture were in the future they will be able to force you to pay up.for hotfix support. If they can force you to take updates they can do anything they want to you, stop you from getting updates deactivate windows etc. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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