SURbit Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 This is an older topic and was just wondering if any of you could add anything New to it... I find a Jan. 2015 and a Nov. 2015 article - I'll share these here. January 26, 2015 Tech Giants Compete in Space Race to Connect the World The Internet is so pivotal to commerce and communication that access is starting to be considered a human right. Several tech giants are now setting out with the noble agenda to provide every human on earth with the possibility of going online and change their lives and communities. Of course there are big bucks to be made as well, and the business arena has recently become so charged that the competition has been dubbed “The New Space Race”. We will start by introducing the most unknown player in this competition. As you probably guessed it is neither Space X’s Elon Musk nor Facebook’s Mark Zuckerburg (although we will get to them later), but a man named Greg Wyler. This serial entrepreneur, and former Google executive, is on a mission to connect the world. Wyler has appeared frequently in the tech press lately for several reasons, however most notably for launching his new venture OneWeb – a company aspiring to bring Internet access to everyone on earth by the use of several hundreds of low-orbit satellites. In a recent interview with The Wall Street Journal, Whyler says that he hopes that the spectrum and the number of satellites will allow the service to deliver a lot of data, while the low orbit will make the service faster than other satellite-based offerings. Below is a video of the entrepreneur and his project, by Bloomberg Business: As to date, companies such as Google and Facebook have received a lot of attention for their philanthropic plans to bring the Internet to the developing world, although these giants have been launching their projects with a different altitude in mind. Facebook, with its Internet.org initiative, aims to bring internet access to the two-thirds of the world’s population that do not currently have access by using drones, which may or may not be solar-powered. According to NewMag, Facebook founder Marc Zuckerberg’s goal is to attract new users, but he believes a constellation of drones and satellites will enable him first to provide needed internet access to the 6 billion people not yet using his service. Similarly, Google has its Loon project which applies a network of balloons designed to connect people in rural and remote areas, help fill coverage gaps, and bring people back online after disasters. The balloons and drones have both advantages and disadvantages when compared to satellites. Firstly, these solutions will beam Internet access to the ground at speeds similar to today’s 3G networks, which might sound reasonable at a first look. However, Gizmodo reports that the projects using satellites for Internet distribution would provide fiber-like speeds to the dwellers down on the surface. The drones and balloons have the advantage of being cheaper, but they also might fall back down to earth during the wrong circumstances or due to technical error. Thus, they need maintenance every once in a while (however, whereas the balloons will need to come down every 100 days the Facebook drones might be in the air for several years). This is not merely a disadvantage though, since the units can actually be repaired and serviced, whereas satellites would probably be irreparable, list and useless if they got damaged or something went wrong with the electronics. In any case, what truly speaks for a satellite solution is, because of the high altitude of operations, it would require far less units to cover the whole surface of our planet. However, there is not only healthy competition going on between different technologies but also between OneWeb and another major player attempting a satellite based solution. According to Information Space, Elon Musk (CEO of SpaceX, the private spacecraft venture) was actually working together with OneWeb’s Greg Wyler as late as a few months back. Now their collective effort has been split into two similar battling satellite initiatives. As if this was not intricate enough, two major giants recently chose to back each entrepreneur. Fortune reports that Google and Fidelity Investments have made a $1 billion investment in the SpaceX-project whereas SpaceX’s largest rival, Richard Branson’s Virgin Group, has come to back the Greg Wyler’s initiative. Bloomberg Businessweek recently featured a huge article regarding the competition, and judging by the quotes from Elon Musk and Richard Branson the rivalry seems quite fierce. As Musk tells the reporter: “We want a satellite that is an order of magnitude more sophisticated than what Greg [Whyler] wants, I think there should be two competing systems.” Whereas Branson states: “I don’t think Elon [Musk] can do a competing thing, if Elon wants to get into this area, the logical thing for him would be to tie up with us.” Judging from the investment costs, Musk might not be lying when he says that his project is more sophisticated, but such aspirations also comes with a downside. Wired writes that the OneWeb project will likely cost $2 billion, which substantially less than Elon Musk’s $10 billion plan to launch his own system of satellites. Also, according to Ars Technica, OneWeb’s advantage is that it already secured the rights to a block of radio spectrum that it will use for Internet service through the International Telecommunication Union. Whoever wins the race, and whatever underlying capitalistic incentives might be present, the currently occurring event is probably going to bring some serious flip-sides. As Greg Wyler says in the final sentence of the Businessweek interview, “this second Internet, it will be there for everybody”. SOURCE: November 19, 2015 _________________ Progress reports: Updating three high tech giants plans to bring cheap internet to everyone in the world A year ago we ran an article headlined “Three high-tech giants developing different plans to bring cheap internet to everyone in the world. Including you”. So it seems like a good time to circle back and see what kind of progress Google, Facebook, and Space-X are making. As we said in that article: While many Americans complain about the exorbitant monthly cost of internet access, there are billions of people around the world with no internet access. No hard-wired access, no wireless access, no internet access at all. But now three iconic high-tech companies are rapidly developing competing plans to solve both problems. Think back to the days when you were sitting in class, watching the clock and thinking the final twelve minutes of English lit would never end. Well, it’s been twelve months since we reported on the efforts of these three high tech titans, and twelve months is an eternity in the world of Silicon Valley. It’s a place where mind boggling progress can be made overnight. So let’s take another look at what we reported a year ago and what kind of progress (if any) has been made. Google Loon: Then Last year we reported that Google had teamed up with Telstra, Australia’s dominant phone company, to test the concept by launching 20 internet-delivering helium-filled balloons over a remote section of western Queensland. This followed other tests in New Zealand, Central California, Brazil and Sri Lanka. We editorialized that the concept sounded crazy, but admitted that the company has a long history of making the impossible possible. Here’s how Google described its concept: “Project Loon balloons float in the stratosphere, twice as high as airplanes and the weather. In the stratosphere, there are many layers of wind, and each layer of wind varies in direction and speed. Loon balloons go where they’re needed by rising or descending into a layer of wind blowing in the desired direction of travel. People can connect to the balloon network using a special Internet antenna attached to their building. The signal bounces from this antenna up to the balloon network, and then down to the global Internet on Earth.” Google Loon: Now The United Kingdom’s highly-respected BBC.com just reported that “Google believes it is on course to have enough internet-beaming balloons in the stratosphere to form a ring over part of the world next year.” In theory, It told the BBC the balloon network will allow Google to beam internet service to anyone living below the balloons. Three of Indonesia’s mobile networks intend to start testing Project Loon transmissions in 2016, and Sri Lanka is also signed on for future testing. Each lighter-than-air balloon carries all the gear necessary to send and receive data streams, a back-up radio, flight computer, GPS location tracker, and an altitude control system that allows ground controllers to shift the balloons to find winds that will take it to the proper location, and, of course, solar panels to power the whole shebang. The progress is astonishing on a number of fronts: For example, internet speeds have increased from 3G-like data speeds in the early tests to 10 megabits per second today. Balloon lifespan is another area that’s seen tremendous progress. The early balloons lasted only five to ten days, but the latest generation of Google Loon balloons now last as long as 187 days. Google has also improved the launch process. “It used to take 14 people an hour or two to launch a balloon,” said Project Loon VP Mike Cassidy in a BBC interview. “Now with an automated crane we can launch a balloon every 15 minutes with two or three people.” Cassidy believes Google Loon could become a reality in 2016. “We hope next year to build our first continuous ring [of balloons] around the world, and to have some sort of continuous coverage for certain regions,” Cassidy continued. “And if all goes well after, then after that we will start rolling out our first beta commercial customers.” Facebook’s internet.org: Then The second entrant in the worldwide cheap internet sweepstakes was Facebook, the social media giant, and its partners. Here’s how we reported the situation in November, 2014. Last year, we reported that “[Facebook], in partnership with Finnish phone giant Nokia and San Diego’s Qualcomm, has put together a worldwide cheap internet program that’s built around solar-powered drones, satellites, and lasers. It has everything except Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader and we assume he’d like it to function like Vader’s Death Star against competitive systems from Google and Elon Musk. TechCrunch.com said their partnership intends “to use these air- and space-born methods to bring Internet to the 5 billion people who currently lack it. Zuckerberg says that Internet.org and Facebook will work on inventing new technologies to complete the mission.” Facebook’s internet.org: Now Here’s how Facebook’s internet.org now describes its mission: Since we launched Internet.org, it’s been our mission to find ways to provide internet connectivity to the more than 4 billion people who are not yet online. Many of these people live within range of at least a 3G wireless signal, and our work in the last year with mobile operators across 17 countries has provided more than a billion people with access to relevant basic internet services. But 10 percent of the world’s population lives in remote locations with no internet infrastructure, and the kinds of infrastructure technologies used everywhere else — things like fiber-optic cable, microwave repeaters and cell towers — may be a challenge to deploy cost-effectively in these regions. That’s where the Connectivity Lab comes in. Our goal is to accelerate the development of a new set of technologies that can drastically change the economics of deploying internet infrastructure. We are exploring a number of different approaches to this challenge, including aircraft, satellites and terrestrial solutions. Our intention is not to build networks and then operate them ourselves, but rather to quickly advance the state of these technologies to the point that they become viable solutions for operators and other partners to deploy. It’s easy to put pretty words on the internet, but can Facebook and its internet.org partners report any real progress? You bet they can. internet.org’s Connectivity Lab recently announced a major achievement: A full-scale version of Aquila, the partnership’s high-altitude, long-endurance aircraft, has rolled off the assembly line and is now ready for flight tests. Get this. Aquila has the wingspan of a 737 but because of its unique design and and carbon-fiber construction, it weighs a tiny fraction of the giant Boeing aircraft. It gets even more amazing. Aquila aircraft will be able to cruise above remote regions of the globe for as long as three months at an altitude of up to 90,000 feet, beaming internet signals down to anyone who lives below. Elon Musk and SpaceX: Then Last year we reported that Elon Musk and SpaceX had a plan to deliver worldwide cheap internet access with a network of 700 low-orbit satellites. (SpaceX, of course, is the company that’s figured out how to launch low-cost payloads into orbit — an accomplishment that’s eluded the braintrust at NASA for 60 years.) ExtremeTech.com reported, “Elon Musk, capitalizing on SpaceX’s unique ability to cheaply launch stuff into space, has announced that he’s working on deploying a constellation of some 700 satellites, for the purpose of bringing ‘very low cost’ internet access to everyone on Earth. Satellite internet access could be very useful in rural parts of North America and Europe, but it’s the under-connected parts of the world (Asia, Africa, South America) that will be of more interest to Musk, both financially and ideologically.” Elon Musk and SpaceX: Now So how’s it going for the founder of PayPal and Tesla Motors? Any progress? According to IFLscience.com, the third time may not be the charm for Musk. Elon Musk is currently seeking government approval to begin testing on a project to broadcast the Internet from 4,000 satellites orbiting the Earth. He claims he wants to beam high-speed Internet to all corners of the world. The plan would transform SpaceX from a company based solely on rockets and spaceflight into an Internet provider to rival the likes of Comcast, Verizon, and other telecom companies in a worldwide market thought to be worth over $2.1 trillion annually. Musk’s plan is to send his Falcon 9 rocket up into space, and then deploy a fleet of satellites around the planet. He announced his plan earlier in the year, but it has just been released that SpaceX has made a formal request for permission from the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to begin testing next year. Musk wants to find out if the current antenna on his satellites would be strong enough to send the signals back down to Earth. Grand as his scheme may be, and even if the FCC grant him permission to start his testing, the logistics of beaming high-speed Internet across the globe still make his chances of pulling this off fairly slim. Musk himself has already conceded that getting permission to operate in countries across the world would be “difficult, if not impossible.” Looks like we were wrong — there has been progress. In the wrong direction. What was originally a cost-prohibitive plan for 700 satellites has now increased to an even costlier plan for 4000 satellites. It costs NASA as much as $50,000,000 to put a single satellite in orbit, but Musk hopes Space-X can bring that cost down to a mere $1,000,000 per satellite. A little quick math (4000 satellites x $1,000,000) brings the cost of just the launch project to a mind-boggling $4 billion. With a “b”. As they say in those annoying television toy commercials, “Batteries not included.” (MARK – IS MY MATH RIGHT? Although a cost like that makes would most billionaires blanch, Elon Musk isn’t like most billionaires. Still, Musk’s success is entirely dependent on a technology that does not yet exist, and has suffered several very public failures. Most rockets are designed to be expendable, to burn up on reentry. But Musk’s SpaceX rockets are designed to reenter the atmosphere, return to a landing site, and make a vertical landing, so that they can be refueled and quickly reused. SpaceX claims it’s made great strides toward this goal, but the bottom line is that they’ve had nothing but failures so far. “If one can figure out how to effectively reuse rockets just like airplanes, the cost of access to space will be reduced by as much as a factor of a hundred,” Musk said on the Space-X website. “A fully reusable vehicle has never been done before. That really is the fundamental breakthrough needed to revolutionize access to space.” Can Elon Musk pull it off? We’re no rocket scientists, but we do have a calculator and even if SpaceX can figure out how to bring its rockets back home and reuse them, its still left with an unimaginably large price tag on its 4000-satellite network. Our best guess on the future? A year ago, we laughed at the concept of Google Loon’s balloon network, but twelve short months later Google may have the last laugh. If this were a horserace and we were handicappers, we’d pick Google to win, Facebook to show, and SpaceX to be put out of its misery after breaking a leg going around the first turn. But let’s do this review again next November. We’ve been surprised before and we hope to be surprised again. Because nothing would be better for the world’s poor — and nothing would make us happier — than having all three of these systems bringing cheap internet to the world. SOURCE: I think the concept of this offering to the worlds peoples is a great ideal, be it as far fetched and costly as it seems to be, I'm not to sure about 4,000 satellites in space that could fall back to earth though. What do you think and have you seen any resent News on anyone of these companies in this area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davmil Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 A colossal waste of money. A few will benefit and use it, but what a cost for Facebook to serve ads to people with no resources. Oh well, they got it to burn it appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURbit Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 On 1/24/2016 at 8:08 PM, davmil said: A colossal waste of money. A few will benefit and use it, but what a cost for Facebook to serve ads to people with no resources. Oh well, they got it to burn it appears. Yeah you got that right, only reason of investments from these companies is higher gains of returns, though the little guy will not be involved as much as companies buying into the marketing of themselves on these platforms. I fear the day when terrorists groups hundreds of miles from any town inter-structures can then use one of these to cause havoc and harm somewhere else in the world. Terrible day that will be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudrax Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Waiting for something like this to happen and put a hard slap on cellular data providors who can't even provide promised services after taking our hard earned money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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