Reefa Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 On Tuesday, Motherboard reported that the FBI had carried out an “unprecedented” hacking campaign, in which the agency targeted at least 1,300 computers that were allegedly used to visit a site hosting child pornography. While it looks like several of those already charged will plead guilty to online child pornography crimes, one defense team has made the extraordinary step of arguing to have their client's case thrown out completely. Their main argument is that the FBI, in briefly running the child pornography site from its own servers in Virginia, itself distributed an “untold” amount of illegal material. “There is no law enforcement exemption, or statutory exemption for the distribution of child pornography,” Colin Fieman, one of the federal public defenders filing the motion to dismiss the indictment, claimed in a phone interview earlier this week. Jay Michaud, a Vancouver teacher arrested in July 2015, is also being represented by Linda Sullivan. Quote “THE GOVERNMENT'S OPERATION OF THE WORLD'S LARGEST ‘HIDDEN SERVER’ CHILD PORNOGRAPHY SITE AND ITS GLOBAL DISTRIBUTION OF UNTOLD NUMBERS OF PICTURES AND VIDEOS IS OUTRAGEOUS CONDUCT THAT SHOULD RESULT IN DISMISSAL OF THE INDICTMENT,” a court filing dated November 20, 2015 reads. Fieman and Sullivan reason that if the methods of the investigation that supposedly identified his client “cannot be reconciled with fundamental expectations of decency and fairness,” then the indictment should be dismissed. A section of the filing, which outlines the defense lawyers' argument. In February 2015, the FBI seized the server of “Playpen,” which court documents described as “the largest remaining known child pornography hidden service in the world.” Instead of shutting the site down straight away, however, the FBI moved Playpen to a government controlled server in Virginia, and deployed a network investigative technique (NIT)—the agency's term for a hacking tool—in an attempt to identify people logging into the site. This NIT, according to other court documents, collected approximately “1300 true internet protocol (IP) addresses” between February 20 and March 4. In their argument, Fieman and Sullivan point to the Department of Justice's own view on the harm caused by the proliferation of child pornography. “Once an image is on the Internet, it is irretrievable and can continue to circulate forever,” the Department of Justice website reads. In an April 2015 press release, US Attorney Josh J. Minkler said that “Producing and distributing child pornography re-victimizes our children every time it is passed from one person to another.” In essence, the lawyers' point is that the FBI was, by running Playpen from its own servers, essentially distributing child pornography. So, according to their argument, it is unclear how the “Government can possibly justify the massive distribution of child pornography that it accomplished in this case.” They then posit that, rather than taking over the site to deploy a bulk hacking technique, and allowing the site to continue to distribute child pornography material in the process, the FBI could have posted individual links to malware-laden files on the site without running it from their own servers. Or, after seizing the site, the agency could have redirected users to a spoofed version of it, minus the child pornography material. Instead, the FBI “continued to distribute thousands of illicit pictures and videos to thousands of visitors,” the filing states. It compares the case to “Operation Fast and Furious”: Between 2009 and 2011, law enforcement agents infamously proliferated illegal weapons in an attempt to trace them to Mexican drug cartels. Some of the weapons, however, ended up being used in the murder of a US Border Patrol agent. The Department of Justice did not reply to repeated requests for comment. The FBI did not respond to a request for comment in time for publication, but a spokesperson previously told Motherboard, “We are not able to comment on ongoing investigations, or describe the use of specific investigative techniques.” This argument to dismiss the indictment is just one of the more recent phases of a heated legal back-and-forth between Michaud's lawyers and the government. Since October, dozens of documents have been filed in the case, including motions to seal documents, affidavits, modifications to protective orders, and delays to responses. “We are in a protracted street fight with the Department of Justice and the FBI,” Fieman told Motherboard. Some of the issues circle around evidence: the defense argues that its client has not had access to important discovery information. It has had some success on that front though: on December 10, the Government wrote that the defense counsel will be provided with the computer code of the NIT under a protective order. The defense is also expected to receive a detailed list of the number of child pornography materials on Playpen while it was being run from an FBI server. The government's response to the motion to dismiss the indictment is currently sealed. It's unclear how the government has replied to the lawyer's arguments, but this move to have the indictment against a suspected online child pornographer totally scraped is a surprising and dramatic turn in a case that continues to grow in scope. 11 20 2015 Motion to Dismiss Indictment...https://www.scribd.com/doc/294902927/11-20-2015-Motion-to-Dismiss-Indictment http://motherboard.vice.com/en_uk/read/defense-lawyers-claim-fbi-peddled-child-porn-in-dark-web-sting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 FBI already put one of there own employees in jail for this before http://wjla.com/news/local/keith-dietterle-fbi-analyst-accused-of-distributing-child-pornography--82698#ixzz2E9FX2LlC But still the ones on the site should be punished as well two wrongs don't make a right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straycat19 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 2 hours ago, steven36 said: FBI already put one of there own employees in jail for this before http://wjla.com/news/local/keith-dietterle-fbi-analyst-accused-of-distributing-child-pornography--82698#ixzz2E9FX2LlC But still the ones on the site should be punished as well two wrongs don't make a right. Steven36 I have to disagree with you and so does our Supreme Court which is why it is called a Sting. The case you posted had nothing to do with a Sting but with an agent who was a pedophile. Stings have been and will be run from everything to Pawn Shops to Drugs to Pedophiles. Even civilian groups have set up stings for pedophiles and then reporting them to law enforcement. Personally I would rather catch a pedophile than a drug pusher or a thief pawning stolen goods. And people who don't like our laws in the US are always welcome to leave, while those who don't live here really have no right to criticize our way of life. Especially when they don't have all the facts and don't know what they are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 11 hours ago, straycat19 said: Steven36 I have to disagree with you and so does our Supreme Court which is why it is called a Sting. The case you posted had nothing to do with a Sting but with an agent who was a pedophile. Stings have been and will be run from everything to Pawn Shops to Drugs to Pedophiles. Even civilian groups have set up stings for pedophiles and then reporting them to law enforcement. Personally I would rather catch a pedophile than a drug pusher or a thief pawning stolen goods. And people who don't like our laws in the US are always welcome to leave, while those who don't live here really have no right to criticize our way of life. Especially when they don't have all the facts and don't know what they are talking about. All I was saying its happened before that guy got 3 and a half years for sending another FBI Agent CP through yahoo so the FBI has put there own in jail for it before . http://dccrimestories.com/ex-fbi-analyst-sentenced-to-3-12-years-for-possession-of-child-porn/ if they suspect any kind foul play the people running the sting could get jail time . The FBI agents are not beyond the law ether . . If they thought the guy to be a real one he would had got more than 3 and half years They just gave a guy in Texas 70 years for it . Its Federal Law there's a minimum of 15 years for it. http://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/citizens-guide-us-federal-law-child-pornography Saying civilian groups has a right to possess it is not right ether because its not protected under the 1st amendment if they get caught with it they would get in serious trouble . What you're taking about what civilian groups do don't nothing to do with CP , Some just acted as minors on the internet and get pedos real names and turn them in to police that's not the same thing at all , because no cp is involved that's solicitation . So really you don't what you're talking about there. That can be just harmful as helpful Quote Law enforcement officials warn that sloppy civilian investigations will push predators further underground, and that civilians may be endangering their own safety. But it can be helpful to the police if done the right way. Quote An advantage for police, she added, is that an "investigation" begun by a civilian rather than by law enforcement removes the entrapment defense. http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/news/2006-04-28-online-predators_x.htm Here is a case were the police caught 22 people in a solicitation sting in 2015 http://www.wrdw.com/home/headlines/22-arrested-in-undercover-child-sex-sting-304100521.html?abc=iy199jL6 Seems its very conman for lawyers to use the entrapment defense against law enforcement. though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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