Recycled Old News About Vista 10, Stressing That Not Only ’10′ is Spyware But All of Windows is

[steven36]

The “no place to hide” (therefore, might as well give up!) propaganda

Summary: How Microsoft propagandists are spinning Microsoft’s gross and potentially illegal privacy violations as a reason to ‘upgrade’ to Vista 10

WE ARE a little baffled to see a whole bunch of ‘news’ stories about Vista 10-esque surveillance being silently/covertly expanded to Vista 7 and Vista 8 through Windows Update. This is not news. It was noted in Techrights last week and also nearly a month ago. What took the corporate media so long to notice reports of these serious privacy violations which may actually be a violation of Microsoft’s EULA (hence susceptibility to legal action) and also render these operating systems inadequate (or illegal) for some firms to use, without any prior warning from Microsoft? China has banned Vista 8 or later (in government at least), but not Vista 7.

Microsoft has essentially changed the behaviour of Vista 7 for more data harvesting, making the transition to GNU/Linux more urgent if not imperative. This could potentially lead to lawsuits, too.

Microsoft Peter wrote about this (joining the spin), as did IDG‘s Microsoft apologist (after a lot of Vista 10 promotion). He wrote in an excessively promotional fashion about this. Here is his opening: “Windows 10 is a deliciously good operating system, all things considered, but its abundant user-tracking has prompted many privacy-minded individuals to stay pat with older versions of Windows. Now, Microsoft’s providing those concerned individuals a reason to upgrade.”

What?

So because Microsoft is infringing the privacy of all users now (not just Vista 10) they are urged to upgrade? Where does this spin even come from? Is this like the latest memo to come out from Redmond? It’s gross beyond belief. It’s similar to the previous spin from Microsoft boosters, who insisted that “privacy is dead” anyway (or something along those lines), hence Vista 10 is grand, inevitable, even a trailblazer.

The Microsoft propaganda regarding surveillance was covered here last night, laying much of the blame on Microsoft's Bot (Ed Bott). This is probably (at least partly) coordinated by Microsoft’s villainous PR agencies. They study what the public wants to hear and then make up some lies (or at best spin) to fulfill expectations. That’s their job. There is also a lot of AstroTurfing involved, not to mention the occasional bribery (they got caught).

Andrew Orlowski wrote about this Vista 10-esque antifeature ‘expansion’ to predecessors and he, for a change, was not spinning it like the Microsoft crowd does right now (in fact, he keeps mocking Microsoft for its hypocritical lobbying against Google).

This whole opportunistic spin (as described above) is utterly shameless and editors ought to be checking if the so-called journalists whom they hired are just Microsoft propagandists, serving more like moles for Microsoft, not reporters. Maybe they don’t even mind as long as Microsoft buys advertising space from them (the budget grew around the time of the release of Vista 10). Maybe such ‘writers’ are merely a reward or a bonus to Microsoft. It’s like advertising (sometimes with detailed marketing-like slideshows) in the “content” sections.

Earlier today Jamie Watson asked: “don’t write and ask me what I think about Windows 10. I don’t use it” (but installed on a multi-boot machine).

We are meanwhile seeing the corporate media quoting Microsoft’s claims about number of Vista 10 users as fact, despite Microsoft’s long history of making up numbers, lying, changing definitions to fit some propaganda, etc. A lot of so-called Vista 10 ‘users’ don’t even use it anymore. Some never boot into it. Some tested it as a virtual machine under another system. And so on…

Proprietary (i.e. secret) methods of measuring usage of proprietary software are about as accurate and honest as Microsoft’s characterisations of Free software and GNU/Linux.

“There’s no company called Linux, there’s barely a Linux road map. Yet Linux sort of springs organically from the earth. And it had, you know, the characteristics of communism that people love so very, very much about it. That is, it’s free.”

–Steve Ballmer

Wait, Steve, don’t you guys say Vista 10 too is “free”? Like in communism?

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[dMog]

this is kind of a load of total crap from the first word to the last it just crappier :lol:

[steven36]

this is kind of a load of total crap from the first word to the last it just crappier :lol:

makes good sense to me , because I'm not really a fanboy of any software . M$ puts in updates in windows 8 and windows 7 to collect you're data so you want have no reason to not update to windows 10 .

[Holmes]

I dont believe any of that bunch of microsoft hater's end of story..

[steven36]

I dont believe any of that bunch of microsoft hater's end of story..

Most people only believe what they want to hear . Even if the facts point the other direction . Because most people use windows they would rather believe a lie than the truth.

Fact is this really happened They made windows 10 everyone was bashing it because of the data collecting and the next thing you know sites started posting about Windows 7 and Windows 8 now does the same thing and how great windows 10 was in the same post . Great M$ strategy to take focus off windows 10 doing it.

Since when did collecting you're data become cool ? Right Now M$ is going to court tomorrow were law enforcement wants you're phone data email data etc. If M$ lose this battle next thing you know M$ will have plenty to hand over . :P

Microsoft could set precedent for future cases involving strong encryption. Microsoft is due to argue its case in a New York appellate court on Wednesday after being taken to task for refusing to serve up emails belonging to a drug trafficking suspect. As the digital correspondence was housed in servers located in Dublin, Ireland, the company said it would relinquish the emails only after U.S. authorities obtained proper documentation from an Irish court.

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[BobDude]

I dont believe any of that bunch of microsoft hater's end of story..

Most people only believe what they want to hear . Even if the facts point the other direction .

like yourself? ;-)

[steven36]

I dont believe any of that bunch of microsoft hater's end of story..

Most people only believe what they want to hear . Even if the facts point the other direction .

like yourself? ;-)

I'm open minded toward both sides I'm just a user stuck in the middle . Ive used windows 10 since the day it was officially launched. But i do block all that spying crap they try to force on me.

[straycat19]

For those of us that locked down our systems with Windows 7 and 8.1 there is no reason to upgrade because we don't have the updates on them either that enable any type of telemetry. Installing Windows 10 is about the most idiotic thing a person could do except commit suicide, which is what you are doing with your privacy. I am an equal opportunity OS user. I have windows, OSX, and linux on various machines. The only thing I really need windows for is to play games.

[steven36]

For those of us that locked down our systems with Windows 7 and 8.1 there is no reason to upgrade because we don't have the updates on them either that enable any type of telemetry. Installing Windows 10 is about the most idiotic thing a person could do except commit suicide, which is what you are doing with your privacy. I am an equal opportunity OS user. I have windows, OSX, and linux on various machines. The only thing I really need windows for is to play games.

What telemetry.? I dont have this problem anymore . I stopped that with out having block with a firewall only thing that calls out is Malicious Software Removal Tool witch i keep blocked and when i do windows updates .I used a few tools to turn most of it off and renamed the exes of the things that did still and that stooped as well.

[smallhagrid]

A request...if possible:

What telemetry.? I dont have this problem anymore . I stopped that with out having block with a firewall only thing that calls out is Malicious Software Removal Tool witch i keep blocked and when i do windows updates .I used a few tools to turn most of it off and renamed the exes of the things that did still and that stooped as well.

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Perhaps you might make a how-to or point out where to find all the right info about how this is done correctly for folks who would like to do as you've done, successfully ??

Thanks.

[smallhagrid]

Very well said; Bravo Straycat !!:

For those of us that locked down our systems with Windows 7 and 8.1 there is no reason to upgrade because we don't have the updates on them either that enable any type of telemetry. Installing Windows 10 is about the most idiotic thing a person could do except commit suicide, which is what you are doing with your privacy. I am an equal opportunity OS user. I have windows, OSX, and linux on various machines. The only thing I really need windows for is to play games.

And also it is most likely that those who feel they must worship all the m$ propaganda without questioning are mostly gamers, or those who comprehend so little that they actually think that their PC -is- mikr0$0ft.

(I've met some like that - they are truly scary !!)

Oddly enough there are those of us who remember who the REAL pirates are, and who disdain all the directives from the great mothership - and somehow - some way - we manage to stay alive & well just the same.

Amazing, ain't it ?!?

[steven36]

Windows Privacy Tweaker , O&O shutup 10 , Uninstall windows apps tweaks from here

http://www.howtogeek.com/224798/how-to-uninstall-windows-10s-built-in-apps-and-how-to-reinstall-them/

And here

http://winaero.com/blog/category/windows-10/

And I renamed wermgr.exe to wermgr.exe.bak and backgroundTaskHost.exe to backgroundTaskHost.exe.bak in system32

Also i have Win10FC witch has ip sniffer I know exactly what calls out and its blocked before it can hit the internet :)

[Holmes]

Bobdude I agree touche' with what you said about stevethirtysix. You use windows ten but bitch about it while using it isnt that hypocrital.

For those of us that locked down our systems with Windows 7 and 8.1 there is no reason to upgrade because we don't have the updates on them either that enable any type of telemetry. Installing Windows 10 is about the most idiotic thing a person could do except commit suicide, which is what you are doing with your privacy. I am an equal opportunity OS user. I have windows, OSX, and linux on various machines. The only thing I really need windows for is to play games.

Dont joke like that seriously comparing installing windows ten to committing suicide wtf. You say installing windows ten is the most idiotic thing yhou can do but you say your a equel opportunity os user and you are (chances are) using windows ten in a vm or you did) thats hypocrital. Alot of people using windows ten and bitching about what it does at the same time everyone has there own opinion but users should try not to contradict themselves.

[smallhagrid]

Great info for (vista)10 users Steven36 !!:

Windows Privacy Tweaker , O&O shutup 10 , Uninstall windows apps tweaks from here

http://www.howtogeek.com/224798/how-to-uninstall-windows-10s-built-in-apps-and-how-to-reinstall-them/

And here

http://winaero.com/blog/category/windows-10/

And I renamed wermgr.exe to wermgr.exe.bak and backgroundTaskHost.exe to backgroundTaskHost.exe.bak in system32

Also i have Win10FC witch has ip sniffer I know exactly what calls out and its blocked before it can hit the internet :)

May I ask what parts of this info may also apply for users of (vista)7 to tighten up their OSes, please ??

Thanks.

[steven36]

Bobdude I agree touche' with what you said about stevethirtysix. You use windows ten but bitch about it while using it isnt that hypocrital.

Hows it being hypocritical.? there's a lot of people who dont like fact windows 10 logs that's why there so many tweaks to stop it. really /I dont use windows 10 because im in love with it . I use it because it was free and i like to test new things. :P

Being hypocritical would be using some other O/S and talking smack . I use windows 10 and solve my own problems. what do you do just let them collect you're data ?

[steven36]

Great info for (vista)10 users Steven36 !!:

Windows Privacy Tweaker , O&O shutup 10 , Uninstall windows apps tweaks from here

http://www.howtogeek.com/224798/how-to-uninstall-windows-10s-built-in-apps-and-how-to-reinstall-them/

And here

http://winaero.com/blog/category/windows-10/

And I renamed wermgr.exe to wermgr.exe.bak and backgroundTaskHost.exe to backgroundTaskHost.exe.bak in system32

Also i have Win10FC witch has ip sniffer I know exactly what calls out and its blocked before it can hit the internet :)

May I ask what parts of this info may also apply for users of (vista)7 to tighten up their OSes, please ??

Thanks.

I know Windows Privacy Tweaker is also for these O/S and Win10FC works for it . Some time when I get bored iill fire up my win 7 machine and check it out with and ip sniffer .

[Holmes]

Bobdude I agree touche' with what you said about stevethirtysix. You use windows ten but bitch about it while using it isnt that hypocrital.

Hows it being hypocritical.? there's a lot of people who dont like fact windows 10 logs that's why there so many tweaks to stop it. really /I dont use windows 10 because im in love with it . I use it because it was free and i like to test new things. :P

Being hypocritical would be using some other O/S and talking smack . I use windows 10 and solve my own problems. what do you do just let them collect you're data ?

I said isnt it hypocrital meaning Im verifying that is it by asking you if you think Im right. In a way imho it is your going to bitch about a os and use it while your bitching about it (Im using it and Im not bitching about it). I do not like them collecting my data is there a lawsuit about privacy infringement involving microsoft if the privacy concerns are as deep as users are saying why hasnt anyone filed a lawsuit against microsoft because its all conjectures. Once again Im not a fanboy of microsoft I just dont like making assumptions this isnt a microsoft is lying unless they can proof there not situation. Assumptions is a pet peeve of mine negative assumptions. Your letting them collect your data look at how much you have done to stop it and it hasnt stopped it completely and does coming onto the forums bitching about it make them stop collecting data no it doesnt (All these threads are rants that are causing fear uncertainty and doubt over what people think they know I checked out all those techrights links they get paid by the click tabloid stories imho. In the end we are all supposed to be on the same team. Arguing about this is like a christian trying to convince a atheist that god exist's its not going to happen lets just agree to disagree.

[steven36]

Bobdude I agree touche' with what you said about stevethirtysix. You use windows ten but bitch about it while using it isnt that hypocrital.

Hows it being hypocritical.? there's a lot of people who dont like fact windows 10 logs that's why there so many tweaks to stop it. really /I dont use windows 10 because im in love with it . I use it because it was free and i like to test new things. :P

Being hypocritical would be using some other O/S and talking smack . I use windows 10 and solve my own problems. what do you do just let them collect you're data ?

I said isnt itr hypocrital meaning Im verifying that is it by asking you if you think Im right. In a way imho it is your going to bitch about a os and use it while your bitching about it (Im using it and Im not bitching about it). I do not like them collecting my data is there a lawsuit about privacy infringement about microsoft if the privacy concerns are as deep as users are saying why hasnt anyone filed a lawsuit against microsoft because its all conjectures. Once again Im not a fanboy of microsoft I just dont like making assumptions this isnt a microsoft is lying unless they can proof there not situation. Assumptions is a pet peeve of mine negative assumptions. Your letting them collect your data look at how much you have done to stop it and it hasnt stopped it completely and does coming onto the forums bitching about it make them stop collecting data no it doesnt.

Really I dont care if you dont care about your privacy at all. Only I care about my own privacy . That's you're choice but I have the right to speak against if I want that's my choice not yours to make . If Microsoft would give people any real info at all about privacy it would be helpful but since they dont we have to go by ip sniffers and stuff too see what they do. I dont even pirate windows . I bought my Machine that has Windows 10 on it . So Ill butcher Windows 10 all I want. :lol:

They probably will get sued before its over they have dont a very good track record no ways

They get sued all the time most of it for patient infringement

https://www.patexia.com/ip-research/lawsuits#showDateField=filingDate&showCharts=1&plaintiff[0][id]=380475&plaintiff[0][name]=Microsoft

[Holmes]

I do care about my privacy alot I havent said I dont your putting words in my mouth and your contradicting yourself. In the end we are going to end up agreeing to disagree I think..

[LeeSmithG]

XP had a backdoor back in the day until Gibson made sure we all knew about it.

Then it was closed immediately.

If M$ was not a U.S.A. company, o.k., discount also China, Russia and North Korea, would they be so paranoid?

I am happy on seven (7) still it floats my many boats.

I have a feeling next edition of windows will be back to basics! :thumbsup:

[Holmes]

I am happy to (I know its too and I use xp and eight to). You think microsoft created and is using a keylogger the same way a black hat hacker is using one I have had my steam account hijacked before and I got it back microsoft and black hat hackers have totally different reasoning behind there use of so called keylogger microsoft uses it to improve user experience malicious hackers use it to steal your account credentials and to piss you off microsoft is "collecting keystrokes to improve user experience". I know what the difference is a friend of mine spent three months writing a malicious keylogger he is black hat. I believe in the end everything is going to work out the way everyone wants it to work out right now whatever is happening is going to end I try to look at everything with the glass half full not half empty. Im not trying to argue with anyone if it looks like I am I truly am not Im saying its not as horrible as your making it out to be that is all.