OrbingStorm Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Parents who do not vaccinate their children will lose welfare payments of up to $2100 per child under a federal government policy set to be announced before the May budget.Under changes that could save more than $50 million a year, Social Services Minister Scott Morrison is preparing to scrap a "conscientious objection" provision which allows anti-vaccination parents to still claim welfare benefits including childcare assistance and Family Tax Benefit A.Fairfax Media understands the Family Tax Benefit A is worth up to $2100 per child.Parents of about 39,000 children have signed "conscientious objection" forms that certify they have a "personal, philosophical, religious or medical" objection to immunisation. This form, which requires a consultation with a doctor or immunisation nurse, is necessary for the parents to receive Family Tax Benfit A. But access is means tested so not every one of those parents would be receiving the payment. While the change has been discussed as a future budget measure, Fairfax Media understands an announcement is imminent.Many pro-vaccination groups and doctors are expected to welcome the policy as a way of further encouraging people to vaccinate their children, but other immunisation policy experts argue it would not lift immunisation rates and would discourage discussions about vaccination with doctors.The policy comes amid rising concern about whooping cough deaths and fears of disease outbreaks in some parts of Australia where many unvaccinated children live in small communities.Mr Morrison believes proper immunisation of children against severe diseases protects them and other children from deadly diseases and as such should be a prerequisite for receiving taxpayer assistance. He said the rules need to be tightened.Earlier this week, Mr Morrison said the current exemptions for access to welfare payments "clearly need to be tightened"."We've got to think about the health and wellbeing of all the other children that are put at risk, and it's their health that also matters," he said."And in fact, you know, those parents have taken decisions to immunise their children, and that's obviously the sensible thing to do. We're a free country, and we're for free society, but that doesn't mean you get to take taxpayers' money if you don't want to go along with the rules."sourcehttp://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/abbott-government-to-announce-antivaccination-parents-will-lose-benefits-20150410-1mie6x.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigmatism Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Forced vaccines? Of course! Land of the free, home of the brave right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODYQX4 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Forced vaccines? Of course! Land of the free, home of the brave right?You prefer infected little bastards spreading the plague?People are only anti vaccine because some scumbag falsified evidence and claimed they cause Autism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dMog Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Forced vaccines? Of course! Land of the free, home of the brave right?...it was not that long ago in time that all over the world most children died before the age of 4...yea i can see why you would want o go back to that freedom..also fyi ...this was not about your favorite country to hate ...it was australia.... not america Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODYQX4 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Forced vaccines? Of course! Land of the free, home of the brave right?...it was not that long ago in time that all over the world most children died before the age of 4...yea i can see why you would want o go back to that freedom...critical thinking is something you personally are not capable ofalso fyi bonehead...this was not about your favorite country to hate ...it was australia.... not americaI remember my parents talking about Measles and Mumps, and they said it was gone forever because of mandatory shots by 1st Grade.I guess not, because the kids who don't get the shots, they grow up, go to the college dorms, and that stuff spreads like airborne AIDS would.We've also got Whooping Cough going around, something I thought was a 3rd World disease.How long before we get Polio and the Black Plague back? The world seems to be, despite technology, in some ways reverting to the early 1900s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbingStorm Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 Ive had a lot of vaccines in my time with no ill affects but i have seen some ppl have not so good reactions to them.Theres alot of conspiricy theorys that the new world order is putting cancer in them ect that is scareing ppl.But in the end it should be a choice I think not forced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CODYQX4 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Ive had a lot of vaccines in my time with no ill affects but i have seen some ppl have not so good reactions to them.Theres alot of conspiricy theorys that the new world order is putting cancer in them ect that is scareing ppl.But in the end it should be a choice I think not forced.Why bother putting cancer in the vaccines, when EVERYTHING in the grocery store is terrible for you in one way or another?Anyway, It isn't forced, they just aren't going to foot the bill for the costs. Sure it might feel forced if you are broke though. It is sort of like your insurance going up if you are prone to crashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rasbridge Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I cannot imagine having to tell my child that they contracted polio because I was "afraid" to give them the polio vaccine. To unnecessarily expose children to preventable diseases is despicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigmatism Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Forced vaccines? Of course! Land of the free, home of the brave right?You prefer infected little bastards spreading the plague?People are only anti vaccine because some scumbag falsified evidence and claimed they cause Autism.I know people personally in my own family who took vaccinations and were harmed from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigmatism Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I cannot imagine having to tell my child that they contracted polio because I was "afraid" to give them the polio vaccine. To unnecessarily expose children to preventable diseases is despicable.Let’s have a look at what GlaxoSmithKline says inside thier own Polio vaccinations insert under the name of KINRIX (their brand name for the Polio vaccine)"If Guillain-Barré syndrome occurs within 6 weeks of receipt of a prior vaccine containing tetanus toxoid, the decision to give any tetanus toxoid containing vaccine, including KINRIX, should be based on careful consideration of the potential benefits and possible risks. When a decision is made to withhold tetanus toxoid, other available vaccines should be given, as indicated."This indicates that the vaccine CAN give you Guillain-Barre which can paralyze a person. INFANRIX is the other name GlaxoSmithKilne uses for thier vaccine. What else does the vaccine say it does as for adverse reactions go:So that sounds lovely right? That's just the Polio vaccine that GlaxoSmithKline created, go have a look at the "Inserts of drug vaccines" which contain a lot of info that you as a parent may want to view before getting your children vaccinated. The fact sheet alone is not enough, request at the Pharmacy the next time you should visit SPECIFICALLY for the drug insert pamphlet, they normally don't give them out because people rarely ask for them.Additional Polio Vaccine insert information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dMog Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 so how many have issues with ALL vaccines compared to the amount of lives saved..... one is miniscule one is a very large number.... here is a hint... the lives saved is not the miniscule number....and once again you bastardized and totally misinterpreted or worse, misrepresented the papers you are quoting... i have two doctors in my family and they routinely run into parents spouting off misinformation about vaccines and the risks and the bad thing is they ARE putting their children at risk by listening to false and exaggerated claims of a.......... trying to scam them for money...having a quadruple bypass or your appendix or gallbladder removed OR simply taking an aspirin all have inherent risks also.... and you do see too many idiots refusing the medications or operations even there are many who feel they do not need such medical intervention edit spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazycanuk Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 LoL Sixty years ago today, April 12, 1955 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpacker Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 yet older generation lives longer without these chemicals..... :tooth: :tooth: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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