New OS data shows a loss for Windows 8.1 while Windows 10 makes an appearance

[steven36]

​The Windows 10 Technical Preview has started showing up in the operating system market share numbers from Net Applications, in their recently revealed statistics for December. However, those same numbers displays a loss in market share for Windows 8.1.

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Windows 10 is now being used on 0.06% of all PCs worldwide, according to Net Applications's data, which is gathered by unique visitors to the websites it monitors. As expected, Windows 10's share is very small due to its preview status, but that share is expected to grow slowly in the months ahead as Microsoft will release more stable preview builds, leading up to its commercial release sometime in late 2015.

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As far as Microsoft's current and older versions of Windows, December saw a loss in market share for Windows 8.1, which had been gaining share over the past few months. December saw its share drop to 9.49%, well below that of November's 12.10%. The older Windows 8 claimed 4.04% in December, which again is a drop from 6.55% in November.

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Windows 7 remains the top used operating system for PCs, with a 56.26% share in December, up from 53.71% in November. Windows XP, which Microsoft no longer supports, had an 18.26% share in December, higher than the 13.57% it had in November.

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​Source: http://www.windowscentral.com/new-os-data-shows-loss-windows-81-while-windows-10-makes-appearance

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​More News About it Windows XP Again Has More Users than Windows 8.1 and Windows 8 Combined

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-XP-Again-Has-More-Users-than-Windows-8-1-and-Windows-8-Combined-468797.shtml

[player]

Yeah I confess dropping Win8 for XP :troll:

Web analytics firms kick off New Year with more suspicious statistics

In October, the company reported a sudden drop in Windows XP usage and, after questioning, published an update acknowledging that the apparently newsworthy change occurred because they had made an adjustment to de-skew the data from "a group of large Chinese publishers" whose visitors almost exclusively use Windows XP.

[steven36]

​I 1st bought a dell windows XP in 2001 after buying and HP Windows ME . That was really a bad O/S it crashed all the time. I used XP from 2001- 2011 that was long enough then I switched to windows 7 in spring 2011 I used it for a few years and bought a new machine with windows 8 and update it through the store to windows 8.1 . Do I think windows 7 is worse than windows 8.1 no I dont .But really its not much better ether . When XP and Windows 7 1st come out they were full of bugs it was not tell a lot updates latter they be came the stable O/S you know today. Other than having installing a 3 party start menu and a few little tweaks Windows 8.1 has been very stable . I'm looking forward to using Windows 10 stable too. ;)

[The Owl]

funny thing is I started with windows 3 (NOT 3.1) then when the updates came out I moved over to 3.1 I reluctantly went to a Floppy version of windows 95 (which I still have saved) and eventually a CD of 95 went through the various updates of the 95b and the 95c versions which is why I found ME OK even to the extent I ran a FTP off it back in the day and still leaving the "Nicely running" ME FTP My new machine got put on XP and having got used to the foibles of XP I upgraded the FTP to it as well both in their day were top end machines one had a AMD 3200 Barton the other a 3000 both had 3Gb of Ram and both were running 6 x 500 gb drives (the biggest back then) funny when you think each machine had a maximum of three tera where I have one machine with multiple drives that big now I eventually changed my workhorse to W7 Ultimate and it has stayed on it ever since about six months to a year later the FTP went to W7, I have tried W8 on my test bench machine it is not far behind my three main machines but it only runs a AMD 1055T and 4 Gb of Ram (for those that don't know the 1000T range of CPUs are six layer). Mean while My Son (39) bought a managers special of a ex demo W8 lappy (Top end machine with a i7 and 8 Gb and a 750 drive) for a very cheap price, when the three year warranty runs out I am ripping out the W8 and putting 7 on.

I found W8 to be the biggest pile of Pooh going equivalent to Vista (which I never owned but did work on) the first bad point being it tells you what its going to do not you it, it is made for idiots who really are either too lazy or do not want to understand computers and CONTROL THEM, I am hoping W10 will be a move back towards User Control of the machine.

Am I surprised that W8 and W8.1 do not equal the amount of XP machines? NOPE am I surprised that the top runner is W7 NOPE it is a good operating system that can be tweaked for the more expert user and runs rock solid I can honestly say and swear on my grandkids lives that I have NEVER had a BSOD since running it.

As I say I am hoping W10 will move back to the Operator controlling the machine not the reverse and more consideration for those who do not want a touch screen Computer (WHICH IMHO is a idea made for idiots) I can understand it on a phone / tablet because there is not a mouse but on a computer nah.

[The Owl]

Quick P.S. I still have one of the Bartons (the 3200) and it still runs a digital TV card and has 6 x 500gb drives

[steven36]

I found W8 to be the biggest pile of Pooh going equivalent to Vista (which I never owned but did work on) the first bad point being it tells you what its going to do not you it, it is made for idiots who really are either too lazy or do not want to understand computers and CONTROL THEM, I am hoping W10 will be a move back towards User Control of the machine.

Am I surprised that W8 and W8.1 do not equal the amount of XP machines? NOPE am I surprised that the top runner is W7 NOPE it is a good operating system that can be tweaked for the more expert user and runs rock solid I can honestly say and swear on my grandkids lives that I have NEVER had a BSOD since running it.

One of the reasons why Windows 7 has gone over better than Vista is compatibility. Windows 7 is a less drastic departure from Vista than Vista was from XP, and this has resulted in fewer growing pains. Users are much less likely to run into programs that won’t run in Windows 7 because of compatibility problems.

​But there were still many bugs in windows 7 before SP1 more info

​http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/common-windows-7-compatibility-issues/

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​All Windows 7 was really a upgrade from vista most everything was already made compatible for vista and windows 7 ran off the same technology so most every would run for off it already .

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Most every thing ran in Windows 8.1 just as good as 7 SP1 even with less problems with people on x64 than Win 7 did just people dont like change (It takes more configuring) so there going upgrade 8.1 with stuff they promised everyone they would add back in a update and didn't do with some new stuff and re brand it Windows 10 .

I remember when windows XP SP3 1st came out it caused many things to stop working and it wasn't even a new O/S ^_^

​More info http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/advice/3394834/Windows-XP-SP3-A-courageous-download.html

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​A lot people waited to the last minute tell when microsoft killed updates for sp2 to even update .

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[The Owl]

A, Never had a Problem with XP the initial release was fairly good SP3 was better (if you knew what to tweak)

B, EVERY Tech I know and all the shop's / store's that referred stuff they couldn't handle to me agreed VISTA WAS SH*T

C, W7 is IMHO the best OS produced by windows in recent years (last fifteen certainly) thing is 3, 3.1, 95 and 98SE (the initial 98 was CRAP) although good OS's could not handle multi layered technology of today.

and as I have said before I have been working on computers since the days of 386's onwards in fact it was only a few months before Christmas I actually threw out some 30 pin simm's

[steven36]

A, Never had a Problem with XP the initial release was fairly good SP3 was better (if you knew what to tweak)

B, EVERY Tech I know and all the shop's / store's that referred stuff they couldn't handle to me agreed VISTA WAS SH*T

C, W7 is IMHO the best OS produced by windows in recent years (last fifteen certainly) thing is 3, 3.1, 95 and 98SE (the initial 98 was CRAP) although good OS's could not handle multi layered technology of today.

and as I have said before I have been working on computers since the days of 386's onwards in fact it was only a few months before Christmas I actually threw out some 30 pin simm's

The biggest problem with XP SP3 tweaking could not fix it ...many people had bought software printers etc that cease to work . Even many Cracks that were done in SP1 and SP2 cease to work in Sp3 .

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​When I think of XP it remands me of a time when you paid twice the money for half the computer . Virus were everywhere antivirus were not even as good they are today . Do I long to get these days back no I dont . When I see people using old used xp computers in 2015 it tells me 1 thing no one really has the money to buy at lest a faster computer with windows 7 or win 8.1 . How sad.

​Vista was bad but it was because of compatibility issues with programs , People were not use to using uac and a bunch of other new stuff . By the time Windows 7 came out Vista was not that bad but already carried a bad stigma .

Just like Windows 8.1 carries a bad stigma because they removed something that you can install yourself . You dont even have to fix it to log in to desktop any more they added that in windows update. It only takes me a very little bit of tweaking to have Windows 8.1 to ruining almost like windows 7.

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[The Owl]

let me get this right quoting you

".many people had bought software printers etc that cease to work . Even many Cracks that were done in SP1 and SP2 cease to work in Sp3"

so because a "Crack" stops working it is the OS at fault? CRAP

"Virus were everywhere antivirus were not even as good they are today" and that is the fault of the OS because?

Oh BTW I download lots of dodgy stuff have used Nortons since Dr Solomans got bought out by Symantec and have never had a "Virus" issue

"When I see people using old used xp computers in 2015 it tells me 1 thing no one really has the money" is not the fault of the OS

Every time a New OS comes out there is always compatibility issues again that's not the fault of the OS software companys are forewarned and in some cases get beta's to work with to sort new programs or updates and invariably they don't do anything and just issue a "Newer better" more costly version again not the fault of the OS

sorry your "Problems" are not the OS's fault for the most part although I will not say that for Vista which was brought out in a rush (they tried to release by Christmas and didn't manage it and it was released on Jan 30 2007) and IMHO was unfinished before the release and M$ decided to let the users be the beta testers, which again was not the fault of the OS but it was the fault of M$ trying to be clever

[steven36]

let me get this right quoting you

".many people had bought software printers etc that cease to work . Even many Cracks that were done in SP1 and SP2 cease to work in Sp3"

so because a "Crack" stops working it is the OS at fault? CRAP

"Virus were everywhere antivirus were not even as good they are today" and that is the fault of the OS because?

Oh BTW I download lots of dodgy stuff have used Nortons since Dr Solomans got bought out by Symantec and have never had a "Virus" issue

"When I see people using old used xp computers in 2015 it tells me 1 thing no one really has the money" is not the fault of the OS

Every time a New OS comes out there is always compatibility issues again that's not the fault of the OS software companys are forewarned and in some cases get beta's to work with to sort new programs or updates and invariably they don't do anything and just issue a "Newer better" more costly version again not the fault of the OS

sorry your "Problems" are not the OS's fault for the most part although I will not say that for Vista which was brought out in a rush (they tried to release by Christmas and didn't manage it and it was released on Jan 30 2007) and IMHO was unfinished before the release and M$ decided to let the users be the beta testers, which again was not the fault of the OS but it was the fault of M$ trying to be clever

I have and old xp box and and old win 95 upgraded to win 98 se but they dont do nothing but collect dust . Before I would use XP without windows update . I would slap free Linux lite on it or something were I can get updates at lest . Sooner or latter XP is going end up like win 98 were your only be able use old programs for it . If it would not been for a bad economy Microsoft would killed XP long before they did. I used it for 10 years that's long enough to use any accent O/S . here it is years latter than that and people are using without windows updates even . Its nothing but a worm and Trojan breeding ground . :P

[The Owl]

the main reason for windows 7 was to cope with multi layer CPU technology which XP never really got to grips with and as I said Vista was such a disaster because M$ was determined to get it out for "Christmas" and failed miserably and with all the bad coding involved and the lack of support by third party's for their peripherals and various software's it was doomed before it was released but because M$ was determined to get it right they worked hard on W7 and ensured the "Third Party's" got their backsides in gear and it has become without doubt the best OS and still because of its reliability and compatibility become the worlds main OS by a mile or two

and the reason that XP became a "Worm breeding Ground" was not down to the OS or indeed M$ but the millions of little boys with nothing better to do and having no real social interaction away from the computer sitting in their bedrooms writing them.

[steven36]

Well Modern O/S you know longer have worry about this too much

Updating Windows improves system security by over 90 per cent
93 per cent of the threats used in this test were rendered harmless by updating the Windows 7 systems fully.
Updating third-party applications separately and in isolation increased security slightly, but not in addition to
the security levels obtained through applying Windows Updates regularly.
​"> Patching supplements, but should not replace, anti-malware protection
Updating vulnerable software made a large improvement to the systems' security but additional protection was
available when adding anti-malware software, either free or paid-for. Adding Microsoft Security Essentials
increased the protection level to 99 per cent.
 Windows users who update regularly achieve much the same security regardless of which
anti-malware software they choose
Systems running anti-malware products that scored very well in our previous tests, without the benefit of
recent Windows updates, experienced minimal further advantage once these were applied. However,
Windows updates added considerable extra protection when weaker anti-malware products were installed.

​http://www.dennistechnologylabs.com/reports/s/a-m/microsoft/DTL_2014_Updates_MS.1.1a.pdf

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Microsoft has done a pretty good job patching but its been since xp no longer even has updates . If you keep windows updated and use some kind anti malware your pretty much protected against all known threats . Only thing you have really worry about know is catching some government made malware if you do what you suppose too. .

[nIGHT]

I welcome new OS as long as it's free. hehe! :yes:

[steven36]

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How much will it cost?

One thing Microsoft has been absolutely mum about regarding it's new baby is how much Windows 10 will cost. While the firm has yet to say anything concrete, we now know a bit more about how Microsoft is thinking – or rather, rethinking – how it will generate dollars from this go 'round.

"We've got to monetize it differently," Microsoft Chief Operating Officer Kevin Turner said at the Credit Suisse Technology Conference in early December, according to Wind8apps.com.

"And there are services involved," he continued. "There are additional opportunities for us to bring additional services to the product and do it in a creative way. And through the course of the summer and spring we'll be announcing what that business model looks like."

​http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/windows-10-release-date-price-news-and-features-1029245

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​So I assume anything you heard yet about it being free were just rumors , I know when they released Windows 7 it was only free to those who bought a new computer with vista right before release and they shipped a free upgrade to you only had a key good for one computer.

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