AV-Comparatives: Real-World Protection Test (October 2014)

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[Ashish]

basically these 3: kaspersky,bitdefender,eset always feature in the top 5 and the others fluctuate everytime. Avast is going downhill on every subsequent test results

[steven36]

basically these 3: kaspersky,bitdefender,eset always feature in the top 5 and the others fluctuate everytime. Avast is going downhill on every subsequent test results

The reason Avast and other free products like Microsoft don't score very high that most of these pay products pay off these testing sites . This is why Symantec has not preformed in this test in many years . The reason is these companies are trying to sell you something is all . But if you take a look at who does the best in the Antivirus market share that's really who is installing what Microsoft and Avast is always on top. What antivirus vendors don't want you to know is fact about Windows Updates vs. Web Threats results were that if you do windows updates your all ready 90% secure and by adding any antivirus of your choice your 99% secure.

As long as you use something + an ad blocker i really believe because I use eset and it never calls out nothing . Unless you have very dangerous habits like downloading from people you don't know there's nothing to worry about . Anyone who is not reckless and worries is just wasting there time . There going to have a stroke over installing what ever wins 1st place in next bought out test . :lol:

[212eta]

The reason Avast and other free products like Microsoft don't score very high that most of these pay products pay off these testing sites.

How do you know that av-comparatives and av-test receive pay-offs from SPECIFIC AV vendors?

Do you have any tangible proof to share with?

[steven36]

The reason Avast and other free products like Microsoft don't score very high that most of these pay products pay off these testing sites.

How do you know that av-comparatives and av-test receive pay-offs from SPECIFIC AV vendors?

Do you have any tangible proof to share with?

I read over at Symantec and Microsoft about this . I don't have to prove nothing I ran avast free for like 4 years and never caught a virus.some on here proved it themselves by doing there own test and scoring 100% and these test saying the opposite . Each test is run on a certain O/S under certain conditions . Therefore its staged because in reality not everyone runs the same O/S and under the same conditions so the test can never be accurate to your O/S . If you want to know how secure your O/S I suggest you do your own testing and stop believing every thing you read. What I read over at Symantec and Microsoft is most likely just as accurate as what you read at av-comparatives. :)

I've dealt with a real unknown threat before the scary reality is if you downloaded an unknown threat only one or two known antivirus may pick it up at all . What if you believed these test and the one that could pick it up was in 5th place and you were exposed because you believed these test and had something else installed its really happened before .

The only thing these test prove at all is everyone needs better Browser security that and antivirus is not enough because some antivirus that just a few months that scored really high on the list are way down the list . What if you bought and antivirus based on this test 3 months ago now its way down the list ? :lol:

Ad blockers , https everywhere and other Browser security addons will improve security much more than changing your antivirus every month . ;)

[darko999]

Test are just test. But seriously Norton is quite bad.

[212eta]

Still no tangible proof...

Who are the ones who attack av-comparatives and av-test ?

Naturally, avast!, Symantec, and Microsoft.

Why? Because, they received poor results.

Did you see Kaspersky, Bitdefender or another top performer AV

attacking av-comparatives and av-test ? No.

Just because avast! and Microsoft enjoy large Market Share,

it does Not necessary mean that their products are also the top performers when it comes to Protection.

Malket Share is one thing and Protection is another one; a very different one.

AVG comes in the 3^rd place (after Microsoft and avast!) when it comes to Market Share.

Does it mean that AVG offers the 3^rd best protection? Hell, no!

I trust more the results of av-comparatives and av-test,

which are both professional AV-Testing organizations dealing with thousands of verified malware,

than the results of YouTube videos made by amateurs dealing with a few handred of questionable malware.

[Yorel]

Qihoo?? :huh:

[212eta]

Qihoo?? :huh:

Oh, yes.

Qihoo

[steven36]

Who needs proof I use NOD32 and run a scan with Hitman pro every so often and it never picks up a real threat . That's all I'm worried about . I looked at this test just a few months ago and Panda and Avira scored really high now look were there at now that's proof enough for me something stinks :lol:

Here's a test done with Trend Micro Antivirus+ 2015 It only cleaned 66 percent

Hands-On Testing
To get a feel for the program's protection, I challenged it with my collection of malware samples. Its real-time protection kicked in the moment I opened the sample folder, quickly eliminating 66 percent of the samples. Note, though, that F-Secure Anti-Virus 2015 wiped out 83 percent of those same samples on sight.

Next, I launched the samples that survived the initial massacre. In several cases it reported the sample or one of its components as suspicious, in some cases with the warning "Please do not open this file unless you trust its source." That seems a bit weak to me—a user could accidentally choose to run malware detected in this way. I made sure to avoid that error.

With 89 percent detection and 8.7 points overall, Trend Micro is just behind F-Secure among products tested with this same malware collection. Note, though, that I give greater weight to ratings from the independent labs than to my simple hands-on test.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2468796,00.asp

This is what I mean by these test they all are done under certain conditions . This guy from pcmag.com have malware samples that it wont clean :)

[212eta]

pcmag "tests" have nothing to do with the TESTS

performed by the AMTSO members like

av-comparatives, av-test, and Virus Bulletin.

There are "tests" and TESTS...

[steven36]

pcmag "tests" have nothing to do with the TESTS

performed by the AMTSO members like

av-comparatives, av-test, and Virus Bulletin.

There are "tests" and TESTS...

You take other big test just like this one .

Decent Lab Results

Trend Micro earned certification at the B level, below the A, AA, and AAA levels.

AV-Test Institute rates antivirus products on three criteria: protection, performance, and usability. Trend Micro got 6.0 points for protection, 5.0 for performance, and 5.5 for usability, for a respectable total of 16.5 points. Note, though, that Bitdefender, Kaspersky, and Panda all earned a perfect 18 points in this same test.

Seems to me most big testing outfits rated Trend Micro quite poor far worse than pc mag did :lol: makes me think av-comparatives received quite a donation to put that not so good antivirus in 1st place :P

[Blackchildcx]

It realy makes no diffrent if U use something from the first 5 places....then U r protected up to 99%......We all know which softwares 2 choose 4 top level protection...

cmon guys...Kaspersky and Bitdefender eset and avira fsecure emsisoft and so on...

Qihoo AVs usin Bitdefender signatures with multiple engines and has a bit better detection... Like many others...

BUT what if it coms to a repair after a Virus attack or if it comes down to system slowdons and BSOD.... :angry: There is so much more to look close if choosin a AV..

I used G DATA way back cause they use Bitdefender Signatures with there own closegap signatures...And its a great software because its a german product and dont uses patriot act...But its a system slowdown and I found out that even they collect data..then its not that good in cleaning a Virus...So for me and my system which 8 GB Ram and i5 core is Bitdefender-GDATA or Kaspersky the one and only choise...

There are so much more reasons why 2 choose smart....

U need a good FW...Me usin a speedport w 724 which got a great FW..So I picked Bitdefender..Great performance...great protection...avarage Firewall

A AV has do do good repairs after Virus attack...it should be lightning fast and offer many features like web protection..online payment..and so on...and so on

Its not only in protection....Its the stearing wheel for ya PC to come safe trough the world wide webbbbbbe! ;)

[sry for postin to much] :lol:

[steven36]

.Great performance...great protection...avarage Firewall

A AV has do do good repairs after Virus attack...it should be lightning fast and offer many features like web protection..online payment..and so on...and so on

Its not only in protection....Its the stearing wheel for ya PC ;)

This is why a lot antivirus suites have removed the firewall and only using windows firewall in there suite most of them are less than to be desired . windows firewall works just as good if not better with a few controls for it added . All these 3rd party Firewalls were invented for XP .Windows 7 and latter come with good firewalls built in .

[212eta]

Seems to me most big testing outfits rated Trend Micro quite poor far worse

than pc mag did makes me think av-comparatives

received quite a donation to put that not so good antivirus in 1st place

Do Not confuse the Real-Time Test of av-comparatives

with the File Detection Tests!

The last File Detection Test (September 2014)

of av-comparatives ranked Trend Micro on the 5^th place; not on the 1^st one.

[steven36]

Seems to me most big testing outfits rated Trend Micro quite poor far worse

than pc mag did makes me think av-comparatives

received quite a donation to put that not so good antivirus in 1st place

Do Not confuse the Real-Time Test of av-comparatives

with the static (On-Demand Tests) done by others.

That's the point is all confusing if anyone believed this utter nonsense were one month this antivirus sores really high and the next its in 6th place . You would have to install a new anti virus every month to stay protected . But in reality hardly anyone gets infected using any antivirus anymore . 6 years ago you had to really worry because disinfection in all antivirus was not that great so needed to make sure had real good one like Kaspersky for prevention.

[212eta]

-Is it possible that Trend Micro improved their product in the last couple of months?

Why Not?

Now, accusing av-comparatives of taking pay-offs by Trend Micro

WITHOUT offering a single Proof of this bribery

is something beyond any further comment.

[steven36]

-Is it possible that Trend Micro improved their product in the last couple of months?

Why Not?

Now, accusing av-comparatives of taking pay-offs by Trend Micro

WITHOUT offering a single Proof of this bribery

is something beyond any further comment.

I dont know bro they may have but after reading several scam reports on them were they auto charged peoples credit cards to much I wouldn't buy it . I'm using NOD32 right now but if I had to buy it I just join the masses in the market share and use Avast for free. Most people on on message boards i say 80% use what ever because of giveaways or warez they dont use it because they buy it . And if it came down to it they would use free to if they had no choice . I see the big picture do you?

[darko999]

-Is it possible that Trend Micro improved their product in the last couple of months?

Why Not?

Now, accusing av-comparatives of taking pay-offs by Trend Micro

WITHOUT offering a single Proof of this bribery

is something beyond any further comment.

I dont know bro they may have but after reading several scam reports on them were they auto charged peoples credit cards to much I wouldn't buy it . I'm using NOD32 right now but if I had to buy it I just join the masses in the market share and use Avast for free. Most people on on message boards i say 80% use what ever because of giveaways or warez they dont use it because they buy it . And if it came down to it they would use free to if they had no choice . I see the big picture do you?

Trend micro has improved a lot, I can tell ya that. It does not perform as good as ESET or Kaspersky, neither offer same level of settings. But does a quite good job, protecting any computer for daily use. It's detection is based on execution, since it performs some heuristics/behavior checks. What it does not detect on context menu scan, it will detect when executing. The thing is, AV-Comparatives is a good reputation organization. Symantec left and they did perform worse than Trend micro in my personal testing. The only one leaving that was good, was Gdata. But they said that they didn't accept "Real world test" to be the way AV protection level should be measured, which is a fair point. They never complained about it being corrupted for paychecks anyway. Todays best free AV is quihoo IS, top detection rates as high as Kaspersky or ESET, free.

PD: I'm stick to ESS 8.

[steven36]

The main reason I switch from AVAST to NOD32 I got tired of false positives I used AVAST free for years and never got infected so it had nothing to do with protection . One of the cons of Trend micro is it has false positives . I sure dont want back in the same boat I would just install Avast back if wanted those . :D

[212eta]

• AV-Comparatives is a good-reputation organization.

• The only one leaving that was good, was Gdata. They (Gdata) never complained about it (AV-Comparatives) being corrupted for paychecks anyway.

:cheers: