Windows 8.1 Now the Only Windows Version Gaining Users on Steam

[MidnightDistortions]

MS has a lousy reputation for listening to user feedback. I don't even think Windows 7 was purely 'consumer feedback' oriented although it fixed many of the issues that Vista had (even though they have fixed Vista in itself). I find it hard to believe that MS would add a search function into the start menu thus making it far more useful then cluttering your desktop with shortcut icons, then change it around to make users upset, frothing at the mouth with anger and frustration. MS continues to flaunt the start screen even though users still are begging MS to put the menu back.

MS could have easily made a way into their 'fancy tablet screen' without the removal of the start menu and make it apparent they want people to try it out. But instead they try to force it into the desktop side forcing users to get a 3rd party replacement instead. All the while they are abandoning XP users (they do have that right though) and in those people's minds they want something else then Windows. Despite there really is no competition against MS, MS themselves are not invincible against the threat of it happening. I think that if MS wants to ensure they will have little or no competition they'd start by giving users what they want otherwise they would be :fool: :fool: :fool: :fool: to think they can do what they want instead of what consumers want. I myself will be using Linux for internet purposes. I can use Windows 7 offline if i need to use a certain program or if worst comes to worst, i'll simply find a pirated version of whatever Windows version i need and tweak it. But i will not give my cash to Microsoft, ever. They want my money, then they should be releasing an OS where i don't need to spend days updating or tweaking it.

[dcs18]

Windows 8.1 only gained from those users stuck with Windows 8 who upgraded to it because 8.1 is preferable to 8.

It doesn't show Windows 8.x becoming more popular.

Are you aware that the 8.1 is not a new OS - but, just a Service Pack (SP1) for Windows 8 - are you aware that Update 1 is not another new OS but just the upcoming Service Pack (SP2) for Windows 8?

Are you aware that last month, the Admins of this very site had to literally close down the gigantic Windows 8.1 (and Office 2013) threads for fear of an over-load degrading the very act of browsing the forums.

Are you even aware that new threads had to be re-created for Windows 8.1 and Office 2013 - so, what's now your improvised definition of the term 'popular?'

Please note . . . . . . . . the above links are only for the 8.1 - not Windows 8 (the size of that thread will bring a warm trickling sensation to your loins were I to link them, here.) :lol:

[BTJB]

I am forced to downgrade from Win 8.1 to Win 8 because of bad compatibility with my application. Also... look at the bug in front! From Metro in Win 8.1 you can't control "turning on" or "turning off" internet connection. When you go to Settings -> Network is inactive!

Internet Explorer 11 does not integrated with my important application that is required only Internet Explorer. Every one browser can work to every new released OS, only IE can't work! And there is no downgrade for the Microsoft browser! Microsoft force users to go to every new OS if they want using new browser. FUCK THEM! I already fucked them! :rolleyes:

Edited April 2, 2014 by BTJB

[dcs18]

From Metro in Win 8.1 you can't control "turning on" or "turning off" internet connection.

Internet Explorer 11 does not integrated with my important application that is required only Internet Explorer.

Long ago, I learned my valuable lessons through experience - before the ModernUI (Metro) and IE could teach those lessons, to me. Had also compiled a neat little article on recommended components to be disabled and/or replaced.

FWIW, have replaced my ModernUI (Metro) with a Desktop Dock and IE with Firefox. :)

[CODYQX4]

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Edited April 28, 2019 by CODYQX4

[dcs18]

@ CODYQX4

Hopefully, young Karlston would clean his soda-bottle glasses, pull down his erect tie before redefining the meaning of the term - popular.

[Karlston]

Jeez you people are bloody sensitive. :)

In respect to the original post which stated that "Statistics provided by Valve’s Steam platform for the month of March 2014 show that Windows 8.1 is the only Windows version that actually boost its share, while the other builds currently supported by Microsoft lost ground in the last 30 days."...

I was simply pointing out firstly that the increase in Windows 8.1 (AS STATED IN THE ORIGINAL POST) mostly/all came from Windows 8 users upgrading/updating/migrating (select whichever term you prefer) to 8.1, and secondly that that increase does NOT necessarily mean that Windows 8.x (any version/update/upgrade/service-pack/..., again select whichever term you prefer) is any more popular (used/installed/running/, yep again choose whichever term you prefer).

And... "Young" Karlston has been involved with computers since High School days in 1973 (a DEC PDP-8 mini if anyone cares), and also has a degree in Mathematics, so :P

[dcs18]

And... "Young" Karlston has been involved with computers since High School days in 1973 (a DEC PDP-8 mini if anyone cares), and also has a degree in Mathematics, so :P

With all due respects to your degree, can you please solve the riddle to my neck-to-neck statement - I'd appreciate that? :)

This is not a challenge - if you're not able to or don't want to, just say so and I'll post the arithmetical calculations (with no pretensions of being a mathematical genius.)

FWIW, the one who made brave fart sounds about opening a new topic has fled under the safety of Mama's lactating apron (maybe your mathematical abilities might educate him.)

ps:--

Did not bother to quote and comment upon the rest of your comments - have stopped rendering social service WRT delusional statements. ;)

[dcs18]

M$ has learned that they better listen to their users..

It's naive to believe that Microsoft listened to their users. :nono:

• Users requested them for the Start Menu - Microsoft gave us a Start Button, instead.
• Users requested them to be able to login directly to Desktop, at boot - at default, Microsoft continues to make us login to the Start Screen, instead.

Before the Start button from the 8.1, it was still possible to login into the desktop after editing the registry, manually - with the 8.1, there is now just an option for the same on the GUI. :dunno:

Microsoft isn't intent on listening to us - not while Windows flaunts such a major chunk of the OS market share. They will start listening only when we shift loyalties to other platforms - that unfortunately, is not gonna happen as long as Windows remains the best option with the second best trailing far far behind. :(

My apologies psy, the situation has changed - you were right (and I'm glad I was wrong.) :)

Microsoft has learned that they better listen to their Users, thankfully so - with the latest 8.1 Update, they have addressed the point highlighted in red. Windows 8.1 Update now boots right into desktop, by default - no need to configure this boot (this is going to be very well taken by the general public and System Buiders.)

Nothing in Update 1 is substantial

Since it's not yet released, that statement is just an hypothetical claim - I'd rather reserve my comments until I'm able to check out Update 1 for myself over a protracted period of time from the :pirate: :pirate: point-of-view, in a real-life environment.

You were right, too buddy - I had the opportunity to test-drive the 8.1 Update, for myself (not on my own system, though.)

Yes, there's nothing substantial - the one little change (not substantial, though) is the point that I wrote to psy about. It's such an small thing yet something that will cause the biggest & loudest bang, something which Microsoft should've implemented on the very base Windows 8 - would've ensured those Morons did not lose so many of their Users. Nevertheless, with this latest 8.1 Update - Windows 8 has just grown into a formidable OS.

They've promised to deploy the Start Menu later this year - had they deployed it with the 8.1 Update, we could've considered the whole package, as substantial - anyways your description was quite right. :)

[Karlston]

With all due respects to your degree, can you please solve the riddle to my neck-to-neck statement - I'd appreciate that? :)

Sure, happy to help, but first you'll need top explain what a "neck-to-neck" statement is, or what it is that you're referring to.

This is not a challenge - if you're not able to or don't want to, just say so and I'll post the arithmetical calculations (with no pretensions of being a mathematical genius.)

Please do so, I'm waiting with bated breath. :)

ps:--

Did not bother to quote and comment upon the rest of your comments - have stopped rendering social service WRT delusional statements. ;)

In other words you can't or won't refute what I posted.

Let me see if I can make it simple...

Premise from original post: Windows 8.1 percentages went up.

Premise from original post: Windows 8 percentages went down.

Conclusion: Windows 8.x (all flavours of Windows 8 combined) percentage (AKA "popularity") increased.

No! Without knowing the underlying numbers making up the percentages, this conclusion is not necessarily true, and is therefore invalid.

The percentage changes can also be explained by some users moving from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1.

Edited April 4, 2014 by Karlston

[dcs18]

With all due respects to your degree, can you please solve the riddle to my neck-to-neck statement - I'd appreciate that? :)

Sure, happy to help, but first you'll need top explain what a "neck-to-neck" statement is, or what it is that you're referring to.

My neck-to-neck remark was made at post # 6 with reference to the respective market shares of Windows 8 and Windows 7 - neck-to-neck means that the competition is quite close (do give it a shot - I'll join you, too.) ^_^

[Karlston]

My neck-to-neck remark was made at post # 6 with reference to the respective market shares of Windows 8 and Windows 7 - neck-to-neck means that the competition is quite close (do give it a shot - I'll join you, too.) ^_^

OK thanks... so that's what it means. I've known the phrase as "neck and neck", should've understood, sorry... :)

At the risk of opening another can of worms, may I politely and gently ask how Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 (which is what you said in post #6), according to the market share in the original post, at 62.3% and 13.38% respectively, can be considered neck and/to neck?

Even Windows 8.x (Windows 8 + Windows 8.1) has only 23.03% versus Windows 7 at 62.3%.

[dcs18]

At the risk of opening another can of worms, may I politely and gently ask how Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 (which is what you said in post #6), according to the market share in the original post, at 62.3% and 13.38% respectively, can be considered neck and/to neck?

Even Windows 8.x (Windows 8 + Windows 8.1) has only 23.03% versus Windows 7 at 62.3%.

Just give some time for Windows 8.1 (with Update 1).

I'm sure that will beat Windows 7. Not so quickly but it will. Just in time.

In fact, right now - Windows 8.1 is neck-to-neck with Windows 7. :)

OK, fair enough - as you rightly pointed out, my neck-to-neck statement was made at post # 6, also reproduced above to highlight the context under which that statement was made. Besides, I'd also left behind a clue on the same point to the Clueless.

Anyways, here's my calculation for the neck-neck statement:--

[sujith]

A new Steam Hardware Survey has been released for the month of March and it now shows a small decline in the Linux user base, although it might be too small to actually count.

Every month Valve publishes a comprehensive hardware and software survey that reflects what is being used to run the Steam client. It’s been pretty accurate until now, but a couple of months ago Valve made a few small modification and eliminated most of the inconsequential entries for various other distros.

It’s interesting to note that March actually shows a decline in comparison with February, but the change is small enough that it can easily be attributed to statistical error.

Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit – 0.36%
Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS 64 bit – 0.15%
Linux Mint 16 Petra 64 bit – 0.10%
Ubuntu 13.10 – 0.07%
Linux 3.10 64 bit – 0.09%
Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS – 0.05%

There are very few variations from one month to another, which is actually somewhat of a letdown for the Linux users who have been hoping that Steam would make a bigger impact.

The percentages might change after the release of the Steam Machines, the PC / console hybrids that are expected to arrive later this year. The new hardware designed by Valve will run SteamOS, which is a Debian-based distribution.

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