ROLLBACK RX VS AX 64 TIME MACHINE

[loyal]

I HAVE SEARCHED ABOUT ROLLBACK AND AX64 TIME MACHINE...BUT I AM CONFUSED ...SHOULD I GO FOR ROLLBACKRX OR AX64 TIME MACHINE

I FOUND FOLLOWING POINTS

Following are the advantages of Rollback RX over AX64 Time Machine:

• Speed: the snapshots and rollbacks with Rollback RX normally take only 3-5 sec, while AX64 takes 10-40 sec to do the same.
• More features (like advanced scheduling, taking snapshots at certain events)

However RollbackRX has significant flaws:

• Cannot be used as a backup program, because there is no way to recover from a disk failure
• No way to recover from a corrupted MBR caused by rootkits or other malware
• No way to backup to other drives such as external drives, network drives etc
• Power failure may corrupt the data on the drive
• Bad compatibility with imaging, defragmentation, file recovery, and other programs
• Decreases SSD performance and life by blocking TRIM commands
• Snapshots need defragmentation, uninstallation is a pain
• Prevents use of Multiboot system, because modifying the volume from another OS corrupts the snapshots
• Disables Windows recovery environment, because running the latter may corrupt the snapshots
• Prevents normal OS use of paging file, as a result some of OS functionality doesn't work properly
• Messes with the disk MBR
• Stability issues - lot of disk corruption reports

AX64 Time Machine is free of all above-mentioned problems. It's easier to use. Also it adds efficient means to browse the backups and recover old or deleted files/folders.

please help me regard this issue ...which one is better

[software182]

Both of them are good, but for me, i choose AX64 now, since Rollback RX 10.2 doesn't have medicine till now :p

[loyal]

Both of them are good, but for me, i choose AX64 now, since Rollback RX 10.2 doesn't have medicine till now :P

you are doing same...increasing confusion i have old shield file for rollback....

and a legit key for ax64

[Myna]

I think this might help..... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1h4vh3_ax64-vs-rollback-rx_tech

[Myna]

To be honest, I haven't tested these two products. I've AX64 installed from a long long time but never needed to use it. Roger D has a good idea about both of these products. Let him come....

[loyal]

I think this might help.....

its all about rollback rx....nothing about ax64....

[avmad]

Didn't you answer your own question in the first post?

List of faults with RX must be enough to show you which to use.

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[nyanny]

I am also looking for a disaster recovery solution and read about both of these products. What I don't understand is why you put such a huge list of supposed flaws (that are very biased btw) of one and not of the other. What's worse, you pulled it off of AX64's website, so obviously it is going to be skewed.

From what I have read, some things are not true. Rollback does support TRIM, for example. A flaw I found of AX64 when reading about it is that it cannot access the console before Windows boots up.

[AlexCross]

I am also looking for a disaster recovery solution and read about both of these products. What I don't understand is why you put such a huge list of supposed flaws (that are very biased btw) of one and not of the other. What's worse, you pulled it off of AX64's website, so obviously it is going to be skewed.

From what I have read, some things are not true. Rollback does support TRIM, for example. A flaw I found of AX64 when reading about it is that it cannot access the console before Windows boots up.

You can use a recovery media for AX64, like an USB, it takes just about 300 mb. I find Ax64 better if you're looking for a compatible product. If you look for speed, go for Rollback. It's best to unninstall Rollback every month when the windows updates comes out and reistall it after you do the updates, otherwise you risk to loose all your snapshots. It happened to me too many times when you get BSODs afer BSODs or your windows won't boot and the RBrx console is full of hexazecimals.

But a year ago, RBrx really worked so well that i never thought that i will have any problem with backups anymore. Microsoft proved me wrong, on a monthly basic.

[nyanny]

Thanks for the response Alex, I just saw this. You tell me that you had to uninstall and reinstall Rollback every single time there was an update?

Wouldn't it be much easier if you just took a snapshot? Losing your snapshots does not make any sense. As for the BSOD, this software claims to recover BSOD from the sub-console - it works below Windows.

I am also looking for a disaster recovery solution and read about both of these products. What I don't understand is why you put such a huge list of supposed flaws (that are very biased btw) of one and not of the other. What's worse, you pulled it off of AX64's website, so obviously it is going to be skewed.

From what I have read, some things are not true. Rollback does support TRIM, for example. A flaw I found of AX64 when reading about it is that it cannot access the console before Windows boots up.

You can use a recovery media for AX64, like an USB, it takes just about 300 mb. I find Ax64 better if you're looking for a compatible product. If you look for speed, go for Rollback. It's best to unninstall Rollback every month when the windows updates comes out and reistall it after you do the updates, otherwise you risk to loose all your snapshots. It happened to me too many times when you get BSODs afer BSODs or your windows won't boot and the RBrx console is full of hexazecimals.

But a year ago, RBrx really worked so well that i never thought that i will have any problem with backups anymore. Microsoft proved me wrong, on a monthly basic.

Thanks for the response Alex, I just saw this. You tell me that you had to uninstall and reinstall Rollback every single time there was an update?

Wouldn't it be much easier if you just took a snapshot? Losing your snapshots does not make any sense. As for the BSOD, this software claims to recover BSOD from the sub-console - it works below Windows.

[AlexCross]

Every time MS releases the monthly update packs Rollback starts to react really badly, if you do not unninstall it, update, and then reinstall it, you might end with corrupted snapshots, as it happened to me, and a corrupted subconsole, which means that there's no way to recover your system since you cannot boot in your Windows or restore the snapshots, and when you boot in the subconsole, it gives you errors for every option you take, as the subconsole breaks, showing lots of hexazecimals and you end in a loop (restart - boot, error booting - restart booting error booting etc).

Rollback used to be a solid software, considering that it's based on snapshot it was a huge advantage, but for now it became unreliable. AX64 made a huge step forward, and it's more compatible and safe to use.

[medp7060]

After playing with Rollback RX 10.2 for a few months and have to stop testing it. It is simply an unusable rollback tool on Windows 7 64bit (the system I am on). It ended up with several system restores from previous image backups. I thought it would save me time by reducing the need of using the image backups. I tried all the tricks getting Rollback out of good use, but I am afraid it just does not work as advertised. I just tried AX64TM 1.4.1 and I found it was far better than Rollback RX. As put in the first post, it is free of any the undesirable things listed for Rollback RX. I bet AX64TM is the future. It is a reliable backup/snapshot tool. Have not tried version 2 yet, but I think it will not disappoint me.

[dcs18]

[spinalgr1998]

RbRx is much better than AX64 Machine !

[steven36]

The experiences I had with RollBack years back even I think not, the same bugs that were in it then still exist today . unlike rollback rx AX 64 TIME MACHINE can be ran in doss even . The same bad stuff I said about RollBack back in 2010 . People are still saying it today . Unlike RollBack RX I may be willing to give AX 64 TIME MACHINE a chance . But you could not pay me good money to ever install RollBack RX Again.

[dcs18]

I HAVE SEARCHED ABOUT ROLLBACK AND AX64 TIME MACHINE...BUT I AM CONFUSED ...SHOULD I GO FOR ROLLBACKRX OR AX64 TIME MACHINE

I FOUND FOLLOWING POINTS

How about - "neither of the above?"

I would suggest going in for a full-blooded backup program in BootCD variant, instead - it is also important to place reliability & success of the (backup + restore) far ahead of other useless factors like speed and convenience.

[steven36]

Really Image backup I think would be your best alternative If you must use any If you play with programs like these really you should use both . :lol: The only time I ever had to do a restore is when I installed something that windows 8.1 didn't like . And Windows restore fixed it still using the same windows 8.1 install I done a few days after getting this computer . I mean come on now in reality most normal every day joe never uses 3rd party software to back up there computer . If your hard on your computer Image backup would be best.

[2635599]

I think this might help..... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1h4vh3_ax64-vs-rollback-rx_tech

that was truly worthless since it only covers rollback.

[2635599]

Didn't you answer your own question in the first post?

List of faults with RX must be enough to show you which to use.

please put down the crack pipe. unless he show the problems eith ax as well his post means nothing. fti rollback rx does correct mbr viruses, rootkits, etc...

[2635599]

The experiences I had with RollBack years back even I think not, the same bugs that were in it then still exist today . unlike rollback rx AX 64 TIME MACHINE can be ran in doss even . The same bad stuff I said about RollBack back in 2010 . People are still saying it today . Unlike RollBack RX I may be willing to give AX 64 TIME MACHINE a chance . But you could not pay me good money to ever install RollBack RX Again.

as i said in the other thread there is nothing weong with rollback. i have been running it for years and other than having to wait a bit for a version that was compatibale with 7 and then a compatible version for 8.1 rollback has never been a problem.

[steven36]

Didn't you answer your own question in the first post?

List of faults with RX must be enough to show you which to use.

please put down the crack pipe. unless he show the problems eith ax as well his post means nothing. fti rollback rx does correct mbr viruses, rootkits, etc...

I dont do drugs dude :lol: last-time I got infected was many moons ago someone put a Trojan in a keygen and only 3 antivirus on virus total could pick it up . But your firewall and win patrol coud pick it up I just went to the process and used unlocker and deleted it on reboot. That was back in like 2008 on XP x86 ...I now use x64 win 8.1 .

[steven36]

The experiences I had with RollBack years back even I think not, the same bugs that were in it then still exist today . unlike rollback rx AX 64 TIME MACHINE can be ran in doss even . The same bad stuff I said about RollBack back in 2010 . People are still saying it today . Unlike RollBack RX I may be willing to give AX 64 TIME MACHINE a chance . But you could not pay me good money to ever install RollBack RX Again.

as i said in the other thread there is nothing weong with rollback. i have been running it for years and other than having to wait a bit for a version that was compatibale with 7 and then a compatible version for 8.1 rollback has never been a problem.

Help yourself ...only time Ive ever needed restore to begin with is if I install something not compatible with Win 8.1 to began with and windows restore worked to fix it . When I used Rollback on XP it would not even defrag right anymore and you could see in disk keeper were it messed with your MFT in the boot sector . So your going have come up with a better reason than doing restores , A Virus or what ever . if I had a virus I couldn't get rid of Id just reformat . But that's not happened since like 2001. Some people are overly paranoid about security programs and install everything they can find . When using your brain prevents infection . A good anti virus and conman sense is more effective than installing a million programs .

[avmad]

Didn't you answer your own question in the first post?

List of faults with RX must be enough to show you which to use.

please put down the crack pipe. unless he show the problems eith ax as well his post means nothing. fti rollback rx does correct mbr viruses, rootkits, etc...

Mr Troll did you even read the first pot?

AX64 Time Machine is free of all above-mentioned problems. It's easier to use. Also it adds efficient means to browse the backups and recover old or deleted files/folders.

please help me regard this issue ...which one is better

Seems pretty obvious to me.

Rollback has screwed many systems and continues to do so.

I would suggest using 1 of these.

Macrium

Drive Snapshot

Easus ToDo

Shadow Protect

Image for Windows

Aomei Backupper

Take a full image weekly or whatever suits you.

Then Instal AXTM V1 latest beta or latest V2 (untested by me) and play with it. Do hourly auto snapshots, restores whenever you want.

I've used them all and would be happy to use again. My fav is AXTM V1, with Macrium as a failsafe.

[2635599]

first things first ax64 is not free. second the makers of rollback rx made it clear that microsour changed things in the way things are backed up effecting rollback on 8.1. horizonday has sibce come out with a fix and rollback work perfectly on 8.1. lasty horizonday states that you should not defrag your hdd or sdd while rb is install for it will make any new restore points larger. now i have taken a good look at ax and i will say it has a couple of asvantages over rx, but rx also has a couple of advantages over ax as well. at this point i'd say it's a matter of personal preference as to which to run.