Busted! Obama's Plan for World War Starting in Ukraine Was Exposed in 2008 by Russia!

[dMog]

but the thing is...you WANT it to be true and that is why you looked for it in the first place...you did not just accidentally find it... you were actively seeking that crap and other crap out...99 9999% of all of what you find you know to be questionable but your need to find stuff to feed you conspiracy need to and tend to over look shit and think it is gold...or you would not post it

[jackieo]

no topic changed to fags talking about nothing in particular why dont you guys F off and send love notes to each other over private chat and get out of my thread

quebec politics like crack smokers?

Wow buddy....This is pretty much un called for, yes we did go off topic but what right do you have insulting people like this? With the member title "Shining Light Into Darkness" .....well its clear! peddle your beliefs and spared the "good news" but lashing out to people wont help your cause

ya know what? if You have nothing to contribute to the topic, then its simple ... ---[ Staff Edit ]

dont post anything.

Edited March 31, 2014 by majithia23

[Arachnoid]

This topic isn't due for release till tomorrow is it?

[majithia23]

Edited and hid some posts .

Debate , discuss , criticize like grown ups . Dont end presenting yourself as if in a pig fight !

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[jackieo]

from 2007 source http://eng.globalaffairs.ru/number/n_9123

Sovereign Democracy: A New Russian Idea or a PR Project?

8 august 2007
Andrei Okara

A discussion in absentia with the leading forces of the Georgian and Ukrainian ’colored revolutions’ surfaces only once, and yet everything suggests that this is the main point of reference on which the metaphysical and technological legitimacy of the whole concept of sovereignty hinges. “The multiplication of entertaining ’revolutions’ and democracies governed by external forces, which seems artificial, is a natural fact precisely in such countries,” Surkov writes. This is to say, the countries that do not set themselves the goal of attaining genuine sovereignty and hence exist under the patronage of other states. He defines Russia as “non-Ukraine” and “non-Georgia.” “Long-lasting foreign rule is inconceivable here.”

[stylemessiah]

On topic: almost everything that you quote is propoganda, and theyre winning, because you have taken it hook line and sinker.

Your real crime is that you continue to post it and try and present it as factual and incite fear and hatred <- this IS against forum rules and then attack other members who dont agree with your narrow and totally nutty views <- again, this IS against forum rules

Edited March 31, 2014 by majithia23

[jackieo]

from the voice of russia website: http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_03_21/Obama-to-start-WWIII-from-Crimea-2008-political-analyst-forecast-4562/

quote:

In 2008 a number of political analysts claimed Barack Obama would initiate the third world war with Crimea as the starting point. “Under the new president Barack Obama, Crimea will be facing the armed conflict scenario, which, under Obama, is a lot more likely than under McCain,” Russian political analyst Andrey Okara predicted during a round table in Kiev in 2008. This became clear when Obama’s team was announced. These people come from Wall-street and their job is to create so-called “controlled chaos technologies”.
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_03_21/Obama-to-start-WWIII-from-Crimea-2008-political-analyst-forecast-4562/

According to Okara, Ukraine, and Crimea in particular, was targeted by the controlled chaos group after Georgia.

“This is the perfect time bomb for a potential armed conflict to spark a world war and this scenario, unfortunately. looks closer than one might want,” the political analyst claims.

Another political analyst, from the Institute for Russia studies, Andrey Blinov, claims that Russia has no interest in encouraging the conflict.

US ambitions toward Crimea were backed up by the charter on strategic cooperation signed in December 2008, which provided American recognition of Ukraine’s sovereignty, its integration into NATO, increasing American presence in Crimea and other forms of cooperation. Though the then US ambassador to Ukraine, William Taylor, assured that the charter does not imply using military force, he still added that should the borders be violated, further steps would be discussed.

The charter also underlines the fact that the two countries’ are interested in a strong, independent and democratic Ukraine which should have integration with European structures as its priority.

The charter also provided for an increased American presence in Crimea but with consular properties.

The document envisages the possible support of Kiev in confrontation with Moscow regarding the Black Sea Fleet withdrawal.

There has always been some speculation about Ukraine being under Barack Obama's close scrutiny as President. According to a 2008 forecast by political analyst, Sergey Taran, “At first, the Ukrainians might be off Obama’s agenda, as he would be too occupied by his internal problems. But in the perspective, Obama will reinstate US influence in Europe with a gradual increase of attention toward Ukraine which might counterbalance Russia in the region”.

Ukraine remains the constraining tool for the US against Russia, according to Ukrainian political analyst, Andrey Ermolaev. He also says that, for the US, Ukraine has been and will be a tool for the US to be used in a very cynical way.

Voice of Russia
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_03_21/Obama-to-start-WWIII-from-Crimea-2008-political-analyst-forecast-4562/

[jackieo]

source http://www.shiftfrequency.com/richard-presser-russian-article-from-2008-obama-will-trigger-world-war-iii-starting-from-the-crimea-peninsula/

Richard Presser ~ Russian Article From 2008: “Obama Will Trigger World War III Starting From The Crimea Peninsula”

RichardPressersBlog March 20 2014

From 2008: Under the new U.S. President Barack Obama in the Crimea will be implemented scenario of armed conflict. ” It is the American scenario , and under Obama the probability is much higher than under McCain, ” – said at a roundtable in Kiev, Russian political scientist Andrei Okara , said ” New Region ” .

Expert explains : “It became clear when it was announced that what people will represent the Obama team . These are people whose professional registration – Wall Street. These people are engaged in a technology called ” technologies of controlled chaos . ”

According to Okara , after Georgia area ” controlled chaos ” in the first place , was to be the Ukraine, namely – Crimea . ” This is the point of a fire , including global conflicts that escalate into a world war , which, unfortunately , is one of the scenarios , the implementation of which at the moment from the real ” – says the analyst.

There is a link at the bottom to the entire article in Russian. Google will translate it for you.

It seems our Russian friends were expecting all of this, perhaps as an attempt to trigger global war.

http://www.utro.ru/2008/12/26/peredovica/

Note from Gillian ~ What’s very interesting is the end paragraph in the Google translated article. The Russians believed this crisis would occur 3 years ago, not 2014. Either timelines are shifting radically or our controllers are woefully delayed in their implementation. They’re losing the frequency battle. Humanity is much more awake and aware in 2014 that it was in 2011. Lots more eyes open to the charade than would have been in 2011.

Translated by Google:

Most “visionary” already heard

rehearsing for the upcoming bout Crimea

: from the opera – held recently in Kiev command post exercise on “Actions volunteer units on the Crimean theater of operations after the Russian military aggression.” Organizers merrymaking (National Salvation Committee, which includes the party “Brotherhood” and “New Force” and association “Northern Brotherhood”) argue that

the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, which will be held no later than 2011,

the entire burden of resistance will be on voluntary organizations. Scenario Campaign General Staff of the Armed Forces has already been developed, sure “roleplayers”.

One thought on “Richard Presser ~ Russian Article From 2008: “Obama Will Trigger World War III Starting From The Crimea Peninsula””

1. Kevin March 20, 2014 at 2:24 pm

   God bless Putin and Russia. They are always several steps ahead of the western bankster cabal with its gaggle of insane neo-cons. Putin has them figured out and knows exactly how to keep them in a permanent state of ‘checkmate’. I still believe that salvation (ugh I hate that word) for our world will originate from Russia and the BRICs.

Edited March 31, 2014 by jackieo

[jackieo]

I just think its kinda weird that that guy could nail whats happening right now from so far off...

and frankly im not saying anything else. I just found it interesting..thats all ...

you guys are the ones making all the fuss... not me.

[ Staff Edit ]

have a nice day, . :)

Edited March 31, 2014 by majithia23

[stylemessiah]

Its alright the mods seem to be editing the sane and normal people and showing no spine by banning you like they should.

this forum is getting to be a joke

[Mr Orus]

The argument is degenerating into a discussion .... offensive outburst of words between members. The topic is closed to put an end to this situation.