Is legal illegal or illegal legal on this forum?

[JjakeSixteen]

The community guidelines clearly say, "posts, PM's or via the shoutbox) should be free from flaming, baiting, spam, profanities and illegal / obscene material, and as a result should be positive, polite and constructive. Yet the users on here ask and answer illegal ways of pirating, hacking and the moderators or the admin seem to take no action.

[clubhouse]

Valid question.

[Gabben]

There are keygens and cracks on frontpage so i don't see the point of these so called "community guidelines"...

[rudrax]

Legal is legal and illegal is illegal and this is what the community also say. The objectionable materials that are found here are only to promote students and non-commercial use for the sake of learning the technology who may not afford that financially. The community is not responsible for any offensive use of those.

The matter of spamming and ego problems will always be there is in such forums. The staff is doing their best to control them.

Edited February 24, 2014 by rudrax

[clubhouse]

Legal is legal and illegal is illegal and this is what the community also say. The objectionable materials that are found here are only to promote students and non-commercial use for the sake of learning the technology who may not afford that financially. The community is not responsible for any offensive use of those.

The matter of spamming and ego problems will always be there is such forums. The staff is doing their best to control them.

lol,

[JjakeSixteen]

Legal is legal and illegal is illegal and this is what the community also say. The objectionable materials that are found here are only to promote students and non-commercial use for the sake of learning the technology who may not afford that financially. The community is not responsible for any offensive use of those.

The matter of spamming and ego problems will always be there is such forums. The staff is doing their best to control them.

You make little sense or acting to be. Community is always responsible.

[SlimRock]

All interactions between community members (be it via posts, PM's or via the shoutbox) should be free from flaming, baiting, spam, profanities and illegal / obscene material, and as a result should be positive, polite and constructive. Should you come across something that isn't in accordance with Community Guidelines, please use the "Report" button next to a post or contact a staff member via a PM (Reporting Tutorial). :P

Members are reminded to respect copyrights. As such, any links or posts containing illegal content are not permitted. This includes and is not limited to cracks, keygens, serials and "licensed" software materials. Members can share such items (cracks, keygens, serials and "licensed" software materials) via the "Sharecode" system. Requests for illegal materials are not permitted. Any content copied from elsewhere should include a source link. :lol:

[unknownasphyxiated]

here legal=illegal :P

[clubhouse]

The community guidelines clearly say, "posts, PM's or via the shoutbox) should be free from flaming, baiting, spam, profanities and illegal / obscene material, and as a result should be positive, polite and constructive. Yet the users on here ask and answer illegal ways of pirating, hacking and the moderators or the admin seem to take no action.

Jjake, we all know what the site provides, that is probably its main purpose...However it does also offer the opportunity for members to add comments in all of its forums...Obviously there needs to be rules that prevent racial, sexual and religious hatred or the promotion of those things....It (although it doesn't) could say it provides software and cracks etc for students or those on low income to test the software....However most softwares are available to try for a period or limited way, although of course the upshot would be if you can't afford to buy it...Tough siht!

I tend to buy software if its offered at a sensible price...WFC for example.....Not overpriced software like AdMuncher, there's no justification for its prices....Thank god for cracks!

Edited February 24, 2014 by clubhouse

[JjakeSixteen]

The community guidelines clearly say, "posts, PM's or via the shoutbox) should be free from flaming, baiting, spam, profanities and illegal / obscene material, and as a result should be positive, polite and constructive. Yet the users on here ask and answer illegal ways of pirating, hacking and the moderators or the admin seem to take no action.

Jjake, we all know what the site provides, that is probably its main purpose...However it does also offer the opportunity for members to add comments in all of its forums...Obviously there needs to be rules that prevent racial, sexual and religious hatred or the promotion of those things....It (although it doesn't) could say it provides software and cracks etc for students or those on low income to test the software....However most softwares are available to try for a period or limited way, although of course the upshot would be if you can't afford to buy it...Tough siht!

I tend to buy software if its offered at a sensible price...WFC for example.....Not overpriced software like AdMuncher, there's no justification for its prices....Thank god for cracks!

Do I or you or any other person has the right to decide whether the price is right except the developers/owners of the softwares? Do I have the right to take anything just because I think that I deserve or own or want something? This is no complain, just an argument whether we should or shouldn't.

[clubhouse]

The community guidelines clearly say, "posts, PM's or via the shoutbox) should be free from flaming, baiting, spam, profanities and illegal / obscene material, and as a result should be positive, polite and constructive. Yet the users on here ask and answer illegal ways of pirating, hacking and the moderators or the admin seem to take no action.

Jjake, we all know what the site provides, that is probably its main purpose...However it does also offer the opportunity for members to add comments in all of its forums...Obviously there needs to be rules that prevent racial, sexual and religious hatred or the promotion of those things....It (although it doesn't) could say it provides software and cracks etc for students or those on low income to test the software....However most softwares are available to try for a period or limited way, although of course the upshot would be if you can't afford to buy it...Tough siht!

I tend to buy software if its offered at a sensible price...WFC for example.....Not overpriced software like AdMuncher, there's no justification for its prices....Thank god for cracks!

Do I or you or any other person has the right to decide whether the price is right except the developers/owners of the softwares? Do I have the right to take anything just because I think that I deserve or own or want something? This is no complain, just an argument whether we should or shouldn't.

No I agree that theft is theft, whether we choose to or not is an individual choice.....I wouldn't use the pretence that I'm a student or poor as a defence, I'd like to own a Rolls Royce...I can't afford one, but its kinda hard to steal one and be able to keep it lol.....Pirated software is just easier.

[ASIO]

if you think illegal leave us

[clubhouse]

if you think illegal leave us

You have a problem with a open discussion\debate?

[JjakeSixteen]

if you think illegal leave us

Seems I made someone angry.

[JjakeSixteen]

The community guidelines clearly say, "posts, PM's or via the shoutbox) should be free from flaming, baiting, spam, profanities and illegal / obscene material, and as a result should be positive, polite and constructive. Yet the users on here ask and answer illegal ways of pirating, hacking and the moderators or the admin seem to take no action.

Jjake, we all know what the site provides, that is probably its main purpose...However it does also offer the opportunity for members to add comments in all of its forums...Obviously there needs to be rules that prevent racial, sexual and religious hatred or the promotion of those things....It (although it doesn't) could say it provides software and cracks etc for students or those on low income to test the software....However most softwares are available to try for a period or limited way, although of course the upshot would be if you can't afford to buy it...Tough siht!

I tend to buy software if its offered at a sensible price...WFC for example.....Not overpriced software like AdMuncher, there's no justification for its prices....Thank god for cracks!

Do I or you or any other person has the right to decide whether the price is right except the developers/owners of the softwares? Do I have the right to take anything just because I think that I deserve or own or want something? This is no complain, just an argument whether we should or shouldn't.

No I agree that theft is theft, whether we choose to or not is an individual choice.....I wouldn't use the pretence that I'm a student or poor as a defence, I'd like to own a Rolls Royce...I can't afford one, but its kinda hard to steal one and be able to keep it lol.....Pirated software is just easier.

I appreciate your honesty and sensibility.

[ASIO]

if you think illegal leave us

You have a problem with a open discussion\debate?

if you think illegal leave us

Seems I made someone angry.

if you're joined nsane for debating on this types of topics then there is no place for you

Edited February 24, 2014 by ASIO

[kn_andre]

It would be nice to have a Matured and Open Minded Discussion Without it soon turning into WW IV .... I hope Contributors to this Thread will Direct all their Comments to the Topic at hand and not make it Personal ...Everybody should be Free to state their Opinion without others having to Attack them Personally because they share a Different " Unpopular " Opinion ... So Please no Cheap personal Shots ... Good Luck Guys and Cheers...

[clubhouse]

if you think illegal leave us

You have a problem with a open discussion\debate?

if you think illegal leave us

Seems I made someone angry.

if you're joined nsane for debating on this types of topics then there is no place for you

Just to make it clear, it was a valid question imho, I don't see what your post contributed towards an answer :)....As was said above by kn, lets try and keep it civil.

Edited February 24, 2014 by clubhouse

[JjakeSixteen]

I clarify my question again, this is no complain. There is a difference in the way this forum is used compared to what the community guidelines say. That's why I asked if the posts made here are within forum rules.

The admins should make it clear what this forum is about.

[johndoe]

it's really quite clear from just the front page what this site is about and what the content is. somebody doesn't have to register on the forums to discover what this site is all about and then raise questions about the content therein.

anyone that has reservations about such are free to take a hike.

my personal opinion about such users is that they are either actually extremely naive or trolls passing by :D

Edited February 24, 2014 by johndoe

[JjakeSixteen]

it's really quite clear from just the front page what this site is about and what the content is. somebody doesn't have to register on the forums to discover what this site is all about and then raise questions about the content therein.

anyone that has reservations about such are free to take a hike.

my personal opinion about such users is that they are either actually extremely naive or trolls passing by :D

Understood. Thanks.

[Blackchildcx]

think...the FP is NOT the forum...thats all to say...thats why we are not alout to ask for fixes here...the forum is legal(should be)

Frontpage isnt always....

Edited February 24, 2014 by Blackchildcx

[VileTouch]

i find the question extremely prude and shortsighted. like putting software sharing in the same plane as murder or cp.

"are we all a band of crooks?" oh please!

[SnakeMasteR]

The community guidelines clearly say, "posts, PM's or via the shoutbox) should be free from flaming, baiting, spam, profanities and illegal / obscene material, and as a result should be positive, polite and constructive. Yet the users on here ask and answer illegal ways of pirating, hacking and the moderators or the admin seem to take no action.

What's legal and what's illegal is difficult to answer and also it's difficult to say what is pirating and hacking by definition, you better ask a lawyer in the country you live in like everyone else who questions a community like nsane. Not sure if nsane needs a debate like this because everywhere is the same debate and depending on individual laws in various regions of the world, illegal isn't defined everywhere in the same way and as such there is no copyright and no monopoly around it everywhere, you can't expect people to see things as illegal if they aren't defined by laws, even forbidden, thousands of different answers, thousands of different laws around the globe regarding copyright and also possibilities to ship around existing paragraphs and squishy definitions in them and there is no answer for what is illegal and what not, that depends on the country and it's laws you live in and what you do with the content from anywhere in the net. I think the quoted text above could live without the word "illegal" but i think it mainly is meant as a disclaimer (not sure).

And after seeing theft in this topic, copying/sharing software for example isn't theft, it's reproduction if anything, theft is if someone steals your Br(e)ightling that has been limited to a number of 100 and it isn't there anymore and a visible loss for the real owner, theft is a sentence from lobbyists and copyright monopolys.

What nsane exactly is, is explained below:

nsane.down: an insanely fast software updates and software & P2P news site which provides software, as it should be; verified and up-to-date.

And everyone has a own definition of nsane, depending on how or why he or she uses the site or not.

You can get softwares of any kind and shared content for review, you can read news of any kind, you can ask questions of any kind in compliance with the community guidelines, you can simply chit chat or ShoutBox or use the site as time-waster, there are so many different reasons why people visit the site, not only or mainly because of software.

Edited February 24, 2014 by n0_risk!

[jackieo]

Software is put forth all over the internet for "educational, testing, and promotional purposes" if you like the software you are encouraged to purchase it and support the developers!

Developers across the internet work hand-in-glove with these tech communities to test new releases of various softs, and gather user expeience feedback to further improve, and develop their code based on feedback from enthusiastic members of these communities, so that when your mom buys something at Office Depot, or Amazon, it works as advertised because of all the intensive testing and feedback gained by the tech communities online !

(Wow did I really just say that? thats a mouthful) :showoff:

much of what is here is Trial locked and some is also free giveaways!

( In the early days of the internet we called it "share-ware")

Its a way to test out new software on various operating system platforms ( Windows XP, Win7, Win8 etc) and also hardware platforms, (Desktop, laptops etc) and see if it functions, to your liking, and also your hardware and operating system variant, and here you also have the ability to share your own personal experiences with the apps you like and if you encounter issues you can come here for support and find solutions in a community environment where we all support each other ! :)

Nsane is a rare bird in ths aspect because we DO help each other out here, it is one of the coolest sites online ( if not thee coolest site :) ) and I encourage you to drop those concerns and jump in an experience the enthusiastic nature of computing in a supportive community where you can make a name for yourself and be a member of a vibrant tech-oriented support community.

Do you go to You Tube and ask this sort of question? or do you watch the videos?

Is this your first day on the internet?

Im sure you have some friends nearby who can explain the facts of life on the internet to you?

While a valid question, I feel it is very naive, and uninformed. ( Don't feel bad, I felt EXACTLY the same way at first)

I have been computing since 2001, way before the internet is what we know it today!

Relax, join the community, and enjoy the experience of learning !

That said, I welcome you here and encourage you to drop your fears, and focus more on being a tech enthusiast and learn more about you computer and operating system than you ever knew you could! :)

Have Fun ! :)

Tell us a little bit about yourself, your computer! :)

Are you a gamer? ( I am)

Have you ever been a participant in an online-game beta test? ( I have, many!)

Do you make videos? (I do)

Are you a musician? ( I am)

Have you ever built / installed an operating system / overclocked a computer? ( I have)

Have you ever built a website? ( I have)

Do you make 2D/3D graphics / logos? ( I do)

Do you watch movies and listen to music on your computer ( I think we all do)

Do you use your PC to get news / weather/ and information? ( we all do)

Are you a sofware developer? ( Im not, but many members here ARE)

Do you enjoy learning and testing new and different brands of software on your pc to see what works best? (thats why we are here! )

What do you use your computer for? What do you want to learn? Where do you want to go?

Nsane forums is an excellent launchpad for all the above!

Jump in and join the fun, and again, WELCOME TO NSANE! :) :showoff:Enjoy your stay!

Edited February 24, 2014 by jackieo