Picollo Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 im confused. some people say that both these type of softwares are good for the health of the OS and some that they are fraudware a waste of money and pure garbage that corrupts the operating system instead of fixing it. as for registry cleaners i use ccleaner which didnt get me any problem, but i used the registry cleaner from auslogics i had problems with some programs not running due to registry entries that were cleaned without need. as for mem cleaners i use clean mem and honestly i dont see any changes in the release of memory (i have 16 gb RAM in a win 7 x64 os) in fact google chrome hogs all my ram (i have 20 + tabs open at the same time and google is taking 300 K for itself).i was wondering if anyone knows Ramdisk or Supercache 5, are these good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted November 11, 2012 Administrator Share Posted November 11, 2012 Never use RAM Cleaners/Flushers/etc. It maybe useful for memory leaks, but they will only slow things down taking away they memory that the software requires but isn't using while the RAM is being flushed.I have no experience in RAMdisk type of softwares, but I guess they can help you. The time it takes to load things however, into the RAM, might kill it's usefulness a little. Do note, Windows' itself caching of things to the RAM is great. Use the safe approach. Stick to CCleaner. If you are trying something else, make a full backup of the system. I've found so called teethless Glary Utilities's registry cleaner to be quite safe and a little deep than CCleaner, but better to backup. jv16 is good too, but backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I have win7 with 16gb ram ,, lenovo i3 cheapo laptop.Use dataram RamDisk, a 256mb ntfs drive T, tor a Temporay browser cache. Less crap for the spinning hard drive to deal with. Probably is the most used non system item for the drive ons/offs anyhow.Used the Supercache5 for week or so .. it works ...but... I watched a scheduled system image go to my D partition.. Super Slow,, would have been 2 hours where normal is 6 to 20 minutes. It give you false hard drive speeds in drive testing.. I don't quiet understand that. Hard drive is still a hard drive and only reads/writes at the speed it can handle.I dumped the superCache, which is a pain in the butt to uninstall fully, and replaced it with eBoostr which is on file here in nSane. Its drawback sort of is it keeps a list of cached items which to populate ram at boot adds about a minute for 1.75gb that I use. But,, my hibernate boots in about 30 seconds.. I use it mostly rather than shutdown... and rather than sleep or hybrid sleep too.I also use the Power Tools Lite 2013 reg cleaner.. have it on the most advanced setting.. Have used it for long time.. its about the same as the regular JV16 as far as reg cleaning.. Seems never a problem.Why would you clean memory if you have plenty ... you paid for it.. use it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calguyhunk Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Both RAM Optimizers and Reg Cleaners (and some would say defrag utilities with modern operating systems, unlike Win 9x) are relics of the past. Keep using Ccleaner, but more for it's overall value than just for the reg-cleaning abilities. Auslogics is good too, don't know why you had problems with that.You may try Yamicsoft Windows Manager, JV16 and Advanced System Cleaner, but in general, if you're on Win7/8, you won't be needing any of that TBH. Ccleaner configured right, is gonna be plenty good :)As for RAM optimizers - 16GB!!! :o That's a hell of a lot of temporary memory, LOL! (Is it 4x4? What's your system config? :P ) It will be another 10 years, before you actually start needing that much RAM :uhoh: Don't worry about RAM optimizers. There are no programs on the planet that can come anywhere remotely close to maxing that out any time soon. As long as you have a fast enough multi-core CPU, you can multi-task effortlessly all you without worrying 'bout your RAM for a loooong time :yes:P.S. - What matters these days more than RAM optimizers, is high speed low latency RAM. I'm guessing that you're using DDR3 1333/1600 CL9 in a 4x4 config. If that is so, you're good. (1600 Mhz CL9 is the sweet spot generally in value terms) :thumbsup:Stop worrying about RAMDisk,Supercache 5 etc. I repeat - they are relics of the past and have no use in today's high powered systems like that of yours. People used to use them when hardware was super expensive and home PC's came with minimal power. They are still making money off of gullible newbies. Please do hold on to your wallet ;)The only way you're gonna need so much RAM, is if you're a heavy 3D gfx editor and into professional 3d modelling & rendering. Even PS, Premier, Vegas etc. don't need half as much. Also, if you're a hard core gamer, that is still wayy overkill. But seeing as RAM is so cheap these days, it's not a bad option to stuff your board with more of the same, IMO. After all, overkill is so underrated :PP.S. - I'm sure Chrome uses more like 300MB rather than Kb as you seem to mention :P Chrome unlike FF, uses a different process for each tab, so it looks a lot better on the process monitor ;)TL;DR - :P Your system is good just the way it is. You don't need to install any maintenance software other than Ccleaner and certainly not RAM optimizing utilities :dance2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojet2011 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Just ease the ram like you do with your head -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paft Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 http://www.pcwintech.com/cleanmem http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/cleanmem-a-memory-cleaner-that-works/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calguyhunk Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 http://www.pcwintech.com/cleanmem http://www.makeuseof...ner-that-works/ Sure it did back in 2008 :uhoh: CleanMem – A Windows Memory Cleaner That Works - October 18, 2008 :P You need that on an XP machine with 256 MB of RAM. Maybe even a Win7 machine with 1GB. But machines bought in the last few years with 2GB+ RAM have no use for 'em for the most part. The 20/30/40 MB that these things purportedly frees up is but a drop in the RAM ocean circa 2012 IMO ;) \YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeMasteR Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 im confused. some people say that both these type of softwares are good for the health of the OS and some that they are fraudware a waste of money and pure garbage that corrupts the operating system instead of fixing it. as for registry cleaners i use ccleaner which didnt get me any problem, but i used the registry cleaner from auslogics i had problems with some programs not running due to registry entries that were cleaned without need. as for mem cleaners i use clean mem and honestly i dont see any changes in the release of memory (i have 16 gb RAM in a win 7 x64 os) in fact google chrome hogs all my ram (i have 20 + tabs open at the same time and google is taking 300 K for itself). i was wondering if anyone knows Ramdisk or Supercache 5, are these good? If you need to fix anything (later), you did something wrong. All Microsoft operating systems are able to fix themself without extra tools needed or they are already built-in. Tools like CCleaner are optionally luxus, it's not really necessary but practical, you can do the same tasks by hand, same for the memory. Microsofts built-in Memory Management is not surpassable and unsurpassed. For Chrome, well, it's not that bad to restart the browser from time to time and the computer, too. Also, more Tabs and addons open, more RAM usage, close some tabs that won't kill you instantly or deinstall addons and you save a lot of RAM. Also try this. I would go crazy to see freaking 20 tabs and more in my browser at the same time. :pos: :wtf: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBoi Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 For registry cleaners only use ccleaner but glary utilities since it doesn't cleans to deep meaning there is low chance of harming the registry. Imo using reg cleaner are generally unsafe plus the current os you are using should be intelligent and efficient enough to handle itself. I have the same opinion for ram optimizers too. Sure it did back in 2008 :uhoh: CleanMem – A Windows Memory Cleaner That Works - October 18, 2008 :P You need that on an XP machine with 256 MB of RAM. Maybe even a Win7 machine with 1GB. But machines bought in the last few years with 2GB+ RAM have no use for 'em for the most part. The 20/30/40 MB that these things purportedly frees up is but a drop in the RAM ocean circa 2012 IMO ;) \YMMV.Well I use cleanmem to flush firefox after it uses a certain amount of memory even though I have 4gb ram :blush:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackerz14 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 well since you have lots of ram at disposal . . . you may try Fancy Cache, it is better than SuperCache 5 although it is a beta http://www.romexsoftware.com/en-us/fancy-cache/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiPirate Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 No software can replace hardware. If some software improves the performance to some extent I believe it will do this on the expense of some other hardware(CPU). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator DKT27 Posted November 12, 2012 Administrator Share Posted November 12, 2012 Me thinks that RAMDisk like softwares might help you in cases where one doesn't have a SSD. It's probably like taking manual control of the system cache. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calguyhunk Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 No software can replace hardware. If some software improves the performance to some extent I believe it will do this on the expense of some other hardware(CPU). You know, this reminds me of a saying in the US. About automobile engines, they say - "There's no replacement for displacement". It's a jab at those piddly little twin-turbo six cylinder engines that claim to deliver the same amount of power as their bigger Hemi-V8 cousins. The thing however, is that they come with an inherent lag compared to the bigger engines (both rated at the same bhp), and even the power delivery is not as smooth for the most part :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paft Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 http://www.pcwintech.com/cleanmem http://www.makeuseof...ner-that-works/ Sure it did back in 2008 :uhoh: CleanMem – A Windows Memory Cleaner That Works - October 18, 2008 :P You need that on an XP machine with 256 MB of RAM. Maybe even a Win7 machine with 1GB. But machines bought in the last few years with 2GB+ RAM have no use for 'em for the most part. The 20/30/40 MB that these things purportedly frees up is but a drop in the RAM ocean circa 2012 IMO ;) \YMMV. I find it very useful. I have 4gb. When in game I hit my hot key CTRL+F3 and my ram is freed up for gaming. Whether it's placebo or not I couldn't tell you without research. But ram is dependently freed up according to taskmanager. Also, modern OS' apparently do this anyway, but how well of a job I don't know. Also...that's just a review you moron. "Works on Windows 2000, XP, 2003, Vista, 2008, 7, 8 (32bit & 64bit)" -http://www.pcwintech.com/cleanmem edit: Try before you judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan de Souza Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 What about this: http://www.raxco.com...orkstation.aspx Also good reading at this: http://blog.raxco.co...h-ramdisk-plus/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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