Benefits of Windows XP 64 bit over 32 bit

[shought]

for example in XP 32bit system need 150MB (its example ) on 64bit system need 190MB

Yep, thanks i got that now :fear: But what should I pick, i'm getting the idea that i should just take enough with the 32 bit version...

[Marik]

Windows XP X64 ( only system ) using more RAM beucase it runing emulation proces wich is emulate 32bits program, programs and apllication that needs 10MB ( for example ) nee dame amount of ram on X64 - 10MB, the only difference is another proces to emulate 32bits.

i would say kotaxor is right, as what i'v tested is that 64bit only is better if you have 4GB ram

Soooo, i should go with the 'normal' 32 bit version of XP?

go for x32...since thats the choice of most manufacturers out there and most of the ppls choice

[KotaXor]

Windows XP X64 ( only system ) using more RAM beucase it runing emulation proces wich is emulate 32bits program, programs and apllication that needs 10MB ( for example ) nee dame amount of ram on X64 - 10MB, the only difference is another proces to emulate 32bits.

i would say kotaxor is right, as what i'v tested is that 64bit only is better if you have 4GB ram

Soooo, i should go with the 'normal' 32 bit version of XP?

go for x32...since thats the choice of most manufacturers out there and most of the ppls choice

lol, can't deny that!

[shought]

Soooo, i should go with the 'normal' 32 bit version of XP?

go for x32...since thats the choice of most manufacturers out there and most of the ppls choice

lol, can't deny that!

(Almost) everyone is pointing at 32 bit, i think my decision is made...

[HATE9X]

Well, sry I was setting up windows myself so I didn't visit nsane for a while..

Well.. either you gotta grab one of eXPerience's releases or then you can do the tweaking yourself following this guide..

http://win2k3.msfn.org/

In either case I recommend "converting" it to workstation so all the apps think it's XP, so apps that whine about server 03 will work..

eh.. I know it's a bit unclear but I'll provide more info if needed..

[shought]

Well, sry I was setting up windows myself so I didn't visit nsane for a while..

Well.. either you gotta grab one of eXPerience's releases or then you can do the tweaking yourself following this guide..

http://win2k3.msfn.org/

In either case I recommend "converting" it to workstation so all the apps think it's XP, so apps that whine about server 03 will work..

eh.. I know it's a bit unclear but I'll provide more info if needed..

This applies to me when i install Windows XP 64 bit, right? I think i'm going to take 32 bit so i don't have to bother about that :doctor:

[dumble]

or try winborg :welcome:, i recently installed winborg february 2008 release.. just amazing..

there will be a march release soon wich fixxes some driver-bugs, so if you are going to download/install it then wait for the march release..

it is releases on p2p(emule), so you have to download it there.. but there are people who share it on rapidshare en torrent asswell..

the disk is about 2GB's in size, but when you install it you got the fastest windows xp there is! 32 bit, and complete with all software you need installed.. (you can choose what software you want or not)..

You can find it on sharethefiles.com, it is made by soporific.. really its amazing! :lmao:

edit, here are some sreenshots;

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[shought]

Looks cool dumble!

[HATE9X]

Well, sry I was setting up windows myself so I didn't visit nsane for a while..

Well.. either you gotta grab one of eXPerience's releases or then you can do the tweaking yourself following this guide..

http://win2k3.msfn.org/

In either case I recommend "converting" it to workstation so all the apps think it's XP, so apps that whine about server 03 will work..

eh.. I know it's a bit unclear but I'll provide more info if needed..

This applies to me when i install Windows XP 64 bit, right? I think i'm going to take 32 bit so i don't have to bother about that B)

no, applies to server 2003 only..

[drkalo]

Shought, I think the reason to install 64bit system would be to recognize more than 4GB RAM. 32bit OS doesn't see and cannot use more than that amount of RAM.

http://forum.x86-secret.com/showthread.php?p=110303

This is due to the 32bit computer architecture. There is a 32 bit address bus available, which allows for the CPU to address a maximum of 4GB of addressing space. This addressing space is however not just used for RAM memory, a part of the addressing space is used to interface with devices on the extension busses like PCI/AGP/PCIe/etc. Things like the videocard claim a part of the addressing space to allow the CPU direct access to the framebuffer memory.

The size of this reserved part of the address space can be anywhere from almost noting up to 2GB. The remaining address space can be used for RAM memory, if however there is more RAM memory installed in the system this will not be available to the CPU.

There is however a possibility to address more than 4GB on a 32bit architecture, to gain access to the unavailable memory. This technique is called Physical Address Extension, or PAE, and needs to be supported by chipset, CPU and BIOS. It also needs to be enabled in the BIOS and in the OS. Whenever using 4GB or more memory it is much preferred to run the system in a 64bit mode if possible.

[shought]

Shought, I think the reason to install 64bit system would be to recognize more than 4GB RAM. 32bit OS doesn't see and cannot use more than that amount of RAM.

http://forum.x86-secret.com/showthread.php?p=110303

This is due to the 32bit computer architecture. There is a 32 bit address bus available, which allows for the CPU to address a maximum of 4GB of addressing space. This addressing space is however not just used for RAM memory, a part of the addressing space is used to interface with devices on the extension busses like PCI/AGP/PCIe/etc. Things like the videocard claim a part of the addressing space to allow the CPU direct access to the framebuffer memory.

The size of this reserved part of the address space can be anywhere from almost noting up to 2GB. The remaining address space can be used for RAM memory, if however there is more RAM memory installed in the system this will not be available to the CPU.

There is however a possibility to address more than 4GB on a 32bit architecture, to gain access to the unavailable memory. This technique is called Physical Address Extension, or PAE, and needs to be supported by chipset, CPU and BIOS. It also needs to be enabled in the BIOS and in the OS. Whenever using 4GB or more memory it is much preferred to run the system in a 64bit mode if possible.

So if you have 4GB of RAM, your 32bit Windows will see only 3.25GB.

I am using Windows Vista because of DirectX 10 and it is the 64bit version because of the RAM issue (I have 4GB installed and would like them to be fully available ^_^ ).

Ah i see, thanks for your clarification.

Well i won't be using 4GB of RAM anyway so i guess i don't really need 64 bit. I'll stick with 32 bit. I might upgrade to 3GB in time and when i get 4GB i'll just go with 64 bit as well, but not for now.