Firefox 7 is out so whats new? huh ?

[demoneye]

we all see the new update from mozila to ff7 , my question is does anyone feel or see anything new from version 6 ? or all of this often update can be sit under a beta flag?

cheers

[anuraag]

if you look here there is no update for ff7 beta to ff7 final

so answer is no

[demoneye]

what i meant is simple , no a REAL change from version 6>7 :)

[anuraag]

misunderstood

i am not a firefox user

[SyafaTahvBroentoeng]

just wait for the release note soon

[AlienForce1]

what i meant is simple , no a REAL change from version 6>7 :)

I don`t know what is changed under the hood - what I can tell you is that is faster than v.6 and seems to use less memory (also , it disabled Kaspersky`s extensions) .

The rest we will know reading the release notes ...

[Veboy]

Well, It Brings a bit more speed as usual.

And It has fixed the new memory leak which appeared with Fx 4.0 . Memory Usage has been Optimized.

The http:// won't be shown in urlbar for finding the address of the currently web page easier.

Also, HTML5 Canvas performance has been improved.

Added support for text-overflow: ellipsis

Added support for the Web Timing specification

Added an opt-in system for users to send performance data back to Mozilla to improve future versions of Firefox. This can be enabled by installing an add-on

That's All I know !

[HX1]

You guys should do one thing... for those of you who cannot see any difference.. ESPECIALLY if you have several versions installed..

Open a CMD Prompt and run ..

firefox.exe -p

At the window create a new profile.. this will start you off fresh with a new profile...no extensions or anything.. after creating a new one.. start FF.. close it and start again.. You might just see in those areas alone where it has changed.. but it gets better...in several other places... You also need to turn off plugins you do not need or want.. some REALLY slow it down

My point here is that being, heavy with extensions, updating, lists for adblock.. several things can effect startup and including faulty extensions which are not compatible and need updating.. 9a Nightly did the same thing.. scared me to death when I first ran it.. Murdered Iron on startup...Just nasty fast... ( Chrome/Iron screaming in the background and all you hear .. the knife going n and out and some other stuff unsure :unsure: ) but this was with all incompatibles and most extensions gone...

I think I small and clean prefs.js file.. a clean extension directory , minimal plugins.. all fresh as it should be out of the box.. it is much improved..Some of these things are general tweaks and maintenance.. but they still slip under the rug on us... :P

Anyway.. just a quick way to test without messing with your current profile.. ( also can test other versions and copy profiles.. ) :rolleyes:

[DKT27]

In relation to HX1's post, I think Mozilla is working on a easier way to migrate to a new profile. I don't remember a lot but it has to do with backing-up every required thing, including extensions so that it can be used in a new profile.

Prefs.js is just option changes and about:config changes right?

[HX1]

Yes... but lets say you use a HTTPSEverywhere or one of the blocking extensions which have lists.. even the Anti-Container from DTA... You will have several hundreds of KB of text that has to be processed by extensions and browser on startup.. so it can slow this area down.. Adblock Plus and a few others do not use this method.. but in the end after these entries are made.. They stay there in most cases.. and your browser still processes them.. including some entries which are not necessary or valid entries which are there by default in about:config which have been altered or changed..

I close my browser and clean these items.. but you sort of have to familiarize yourself with names and entries to be able to do so.. right now mine is like 60 KB and could be a bit smaller... So it contains quite a bit that could be optimized as well as older extensions that require folders and so on.. that can be left behind... Some incompatibility issues and odd issues in Fx can be solved this way.. seldom.. but sometimes can help..

If you have done a lot of testing for extensions over time... installing and uninstalling.. it would be a good idea.. or if you never have.. finally got your browser to a state that you like it... and installs and so on .. stable .. still in this state and yo might want to wait till after but then again if you find something does not work as intended it could also be a good idea .. beforehand...It would be hard for a Dev to clean all of these on uninstall as in some cases they are either done incorrectly or my relate to other things.. so a problem comes on this side.. IF you accidentally erase a setting for an extension you will simply have to redo the settings for it so not a lot of harm can come from it.. Worse case is a reinstall of the extension.. or losing a browser setting that may have to be redone... but it is pretty straight-forward.

Mine, mind you this could be smaller.. but you will notice in a few areas there is line after line of data... ( it the text was wrapped or either goes on for a mile ) entries like this are a major slow down to startup.. along with invalid or old entries... if you read through; you see and start to understand the simplicity of it, what's what... and what areas can be effected by it..

EDIT: I have also noticed that the databases for urlclassifier and places can also become quite large.. these can reach up to 20 MB in size..or larger.. CrystallIDEA's SpeedyFox is great for this sort of thing..

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[DKT27]

Just 3KB here :P :

/* Do not edit this file.
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 # Mozilla User Preferences

[Tweety.Abd]

So I were reading a lot about Firefox 7's memory optimization and that it cuts down the memory usage dramatically as compared to the earlier version of Firefox. Since I don't use Firefox anymore, I wanted to know if you guys noticed any signification or at least any memory improvement at all?

[HX1]

What version was the last one you used... to compare it to.. IMO.. its a major improvement.. Still owkr to be done I think.. settings tweaking can help in some ways ..What did you switch to?

Just 3KB here :P :

The smallest I have seen.. you must like have no extensions.. all on default with a new profile.. :huh:

[Tweety.Abd]

What version was the last one you used... to compare it to.. IMO.. its a major improvement.. Still owkr to be done I think.. settings tweaking can help in some ways ..What did you switch to?

Just 3KB here :P :

The smallest I have seen.. you must like have no extensions.. all on default with a new profile.. :huh:

Well the last version I used was Firefox 6, and I've switched to Opera initially, but then some of my plug-ins weren't working there, so I had to switch to Google Chrome and I am very, very pleased with it :)

[SyafaTahvBroentoeng]

here we go the official release note

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/7.0/releasenotes/

[DKT27]

Just 3KB here :P :

The smallest I have seen.. you must like have no extensions.. all on default with a new profile.. :huh:

Well my previous profile had broken couple of months ago. prefs.js was 250KB on older one. :P But have about 40 addons (including disabled) here on the new one. But have Tabmixplus disabled, I feel it's one addon that slows down the Firefox a lot and adds lots of settings. I'm using couple of addons that offer particular things that Tabmixplus does and what I want.

[HX1]

@Tweety.Abd - Well versus 6.. its a huge difference.. BUT if all your doing is basic browsing.. you are not concerned with your privacy.. or in need of specialized alterations.. it may be the best bet to use Iron ( which is Chrome ). I have several browser installed for various reasons.. but I prefer Fx.. I recommend trying 7 but like I said..

You would be impressed.. 3 was good 4 was okay with some major changes.. 5&6 both were a major fail.. IMO.. 6 being the worst...of those two..

Well my previous profile had broken couple of months ago. prefs.js was 250KB on older one. :P But have about 40 addons (including disabled) here on the new one. But have Tabmixplus disabled, I feel it's one addon that slows down the Firefox a lot and adds lots of settings. I'm using couple of addons that offer particular things that Tabmixplus does and what I want.

250 KB is huge.. are the extension you have now restartless.. jetpack or w/e.. You are right in a way about TabMixPlus.. but it is something someone like me needs.. :P I like Fx to behave the way I want it to...Older extension would still have that riddled with entries..

[demoneye]

welp , if you compare FF7 to google chrome 14 in matter of lightness i think chrome take it over FF7 in many uses aspect , it feel faster , smoother on google chrome than on FF7 ...

and another matter is ff7 memory optimized , welp I DONT CARE about it since i have enough ram , if u inspect google chrome u see it uses MUCH more memory than FF7 (and ff6) so what?? in this way all pages open faster since its store in the memory for quick access !

btw my Prefs.js is 917 kb (almost 1 mega) so it isn't so BIG :D

[DKT27]

Well my previous profile had broken couple of months ago. prefs.js was 250KB on older one. But have about 40 addons (including disabled) here on the new one. But have Tabmixplus disabled, I feel it's one addon that slows down the Firefox a lot and adds lots of settings. I'm using couple of addons that offer particular things that Tabmixplus does and what I want.

250 KB is huge.. are the extension you have now restartless.. jetpack or w/e.. You are right in a way about TabMixPlus.. but it is something someone like me needs.. I like Fx to behave the way I want it to...Older extension would still have that riddled with entries..

Looks like I spoke too early without proper investigating.

I have two profiles with very similar name and I posted the one I didn't use.

It's 208KB here right now, on my regular profile:

http://tinypaste.com/b46080

@Demoneye: Chrome pre-loads pages. As in, it loads the front layout of the page before the page has actually fully loaded. Also, it has purposely optimized it's ads to load faster on Chrome. Chrome's scrolling is faster not because it's faster, but it's the way it shows to you, look into it, it's scolling is even faster than Explorer. Chrome uses html based addons that majority of Mozilla addons are going to switch in future.

I can go whole day why Chrome "feels" faster and fails when it implements new features.

[demoneye]

welp DKT27 i accept what you say , but u must agree that chrome ADDONS are more flex than in FF7 , u can install /uninstall /disable with out browser restart ...and its all come to the point of feeling more light on chrome IMO :)

[DKT27]

welp DKT27 i accept what you say , but u must agree that chrome ADDONS are more flex than in FF7 , u can install /uninstall /disable with out browser restart ...and its all come to the point of feeling more light on chrome IMO :)

Agreed. :)

But Firefox is on the way too. All these addons can be disabled/enabled/uninstalled without any restart. Something all the addons will switch to in future.

Chrome is a great browser alright. But even it has it's own shortcomings. Also, they concentrate on speed more than features. :)

[demoneye]

welp DKT27 i accept what you say , but u must agree that chrome ADDONS are more flex than in FF7 , u can install /uninstall /disable with out browser restart ...and its all come to the point of feeling more light on chrome IMO :)

Agreed. :)

But Firefox is on the way too. All these addons can be disabled/enabled/uninstalled without any restart. Something all the addons will switch to in future.

Chrome is a great browser alright. But even it has it's own shortcomings. Also, they concentrate on speed more than features. :)

hahah cant agree more than that 100% true :D

[HX1]

@ Demoneye and DKT27 - Those prefs files.. are horrendous.. :P almost 1 MB.. you have to be kidding me.. and 208 is large... very large.. mine hit 350 something once and I had a ton of cleaning to do...should do something with that guys.. and run Speedy Fox on those profiles once.. I would do it for you but this is one area I can't do unless I am behind the browser and know all the aspects, extensions.. all that.. SO.. might do you some good.. :thumbsup:

[demoneye]

HX1

i did , re flash my ff from my sandboxie and rerun it , now its 35kb :D much smaller and i hope it be faster ;)

[HX1]

Well I should hope so :P Just remember you do have to do all of this with the browser closed..or it will rewrite with the original loaded info..